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new phone who dis posted:The Dems should realize that if they continue to push and end up with a big, wet fart, people are going to punish them for it. Hahaha lol if that were the case then BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI wait what EMAILS quote:This isn't a win/win scenario for them. If the investigation they managed to knock Sessions off of comes back and exonerates Trump, they're going to pay for it politically. People supporting this witch hunt should realize the price they may have to pay if it doesn't pay off. They're making a heavy bet on Trump being an evil genius when most evidence points to ineptitude. It doesn't matter what happens, everyone has the attention span of mayflies now and the American public literally cannot distinguish between smoke and fire, so let's throw more wet logs on this sucker and BREATHE DEEEEEEEP
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new phone who dis posted:That works both for and against trying to keep the whole Russia thing going. You can only repackage it so many times. You're not wrong, though. Every day the Trump White House spends mired in scandal and dealing with bullshit is another day they're not literally torturing puppies so this is all good imho Seriously, today they were planning to announce the newest iteration of their Muslim Ban so even if this whole scandal evaporates tomorrow it bought brown people in America another day of freedom (spoiler: this scandal is not evaporating)
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Mar 3, 2017 02:45
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new phone who dis posted:I'm trying to figure out the thought process behind someone in the administration making puppy mill data a target but I just can't get my head around it. Are you heavily invested in the puppy mill industry? The logic here is generally "more money for us, gently caress you"
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Mar 3, 2017 02:52
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new phone who dis posted:I wasn't sure the puppy mill people had such a strong lobby. It seems like a very strange place to target. It's surprisingly easy to lobby for this kind of thing if you have money, but the why doesn't really matter much end of the day, they still did it.
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Mar 3, 2017 03:14
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Frijolero posted:Nothing will happen. It doesn't have to force resignations to be worthwhile. It's worthwhile just as a constant distraction. Every hour Trump has to spend on this makes it harder for him to do other things.
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Mar 3, 2017 03:31
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new phone who dis posted:Like torture puppies? Look, Trump's a monster and the Republicans are monsters and their policies are going to kill thousands of people. Just as one example, if nothing else, Paul Ryan's proposed and planned replacement of medicaid's defined benefit requirements with state-level block grants will by itself result in the deaths of tens of thousands of people due to lack of necessary medical care. And that's just one planned benefit cut out of many. If pointing out that they are practically on the same level as Disney villains requires a hyperbolic example to get the point across -- and the puppies example does that -- so be it. Toadvine posted:Like war with Iran hey, let's not narrow it down just yet! http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/774340/Trump-military-review-North-Korea-China-Japan-Russia-Missile-War-Games
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Puppy mill stuff is not "patently untrue". At best, there's an alternate possible explanation (prior litigation) other than pure nefariousness. On the other hand, there's also a pattern of the Trump administration destroying public records that help perceived "liberal" causes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.7dc53306b665 http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-administration-removes-lgbtq-content-federal-websites-n711416 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-white-house-website.html http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/25/14370712/trump-science-gagging-explained I think you're extending the Trump administration the benefit of the doubt when they've done nothing to deserve same. Especially since, in the instance of puppy mills specifically, quote:But one of Trump's most recent picks to helm his transition, Brian Klippenstein, has an almost cartoonishly-villainous history protecting puppy mills from regulation that would make them more humane. https://mic.com/articles/162185/trump-s-newest-pick-is-a-defender-of-puppy-mills-an-industry-of-torture#.n0T2gTC6T So sure, maybe the removal of puppy mill records is because of amorphous and unexplained litigation. Alternatively, the guy Trump hired who is in fact a puppy mill lobbyist is doing his job. Kjoery posted:hello welcome to hellthread where 25% of posters are frog men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exnaY0l4XsM Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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new phone who dis posted:My argument is that every time someone posts some dumb, untrue bullshit like puppy torture, Look, it is actually and provably true that Trump's USDA took down public records about puppy mills and this will help puppy mill operators. You can argue about the why but it did in fact happen.
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new phone who dis posted:The effort to remove the records was in motion since the last administration: Not quite; it was under consideration. Final call still Trump's administration. There were other options including partial redaction, but Trump's admin just defaulted to full removal -- fitting a general pattern of removing records, and (just by coincidence, I'm sure) fitting the agenda of the literal puppy mill lobbyist Trump hired to run the USDA. Why are you bothering to oh-no-what-if-we-accidentally-make-Trump-look-too-bad defend this anyway? This is like one single example out of a hundred equally-or-more reprehensible things Trump's admin has either already done or has announced they will try to do. Poetic Justice posted:: poo poo, forgot the worst one of all...REPUBLICAN  new phone who dis posted:Hooker pisser. Hey, I won't judge him on this, no kinkshaming If Trump wants to get pissed on that's his right Many of us would no doubt be happy to help him out Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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new phone who dis posted:I want the hooker piss thing to be real so bad but that's why it wont be. At this point it's functionally un-true; even if incontrovertible proof were produced, it would be too easy to claim that proof was faked, and too many people would have too strong an interest in doing so. Still true in my heart tho
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Mar 3, 2017 05:01
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afeelgoodpoop posted:people could go to charity hospitals if they were broke. maybe people should actually understand how the world works before saying something ignorant like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U
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Frijolero posted:Counterpoint: All this Russia bullshit is distracting from terrible poo poo that is already happening as we speak. you make a good point but I think Americans are more likely to pay attention to Important Trump People getting caught loving up than they are to innocent (poor)(brown) people getting hosed over Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 05:32
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:He will make America American again. He's the president America deserves It's gonna be yooge, it's gonna be like Bioshock except with a golden ocean
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new phone who dis posted:I think he might end up doing some good by accident. Killing TPP was one of those things. I don't think it will end up as bad as people think, but he's also not going to be the savior so many want. I'm actually optimistic that we might get a compromise immigration bill if some of the current rumbling turns out to be true. Hopefully the deportation stuff is just leverage to make that happen. They will also probably end up doing a Title IX reform that desperately needs to happen as well. School vouchers are also a mixed bag. *grinds teeth in forced smile* *Jumps off of bridge* "hopefully someone will catch me"
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Harrower posted:When there is a labor surplus the best thing to do is bring as many people into a country as possible with as little over sight as possible. It's just common sense. Net immigration to the US is negative and has been for years This is why our agriculture sector is collapsing, not enough people to harvest the crops Immigration is a bullshit issue and anyone who doesn't want more people to come here is ignorant Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 15:03
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SpaceGoatFarts posted:it's just that they prefer if it'd be nubile asian and slavish housewives who immigrated I thought the first lady was off limits
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Mar 3, 2017 15:06
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Mordor She Wrote posted:What did Republicans learn from their tantrum other than to double down on it and tantrum harder? And it worked, so let's do it too
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Mar 3, 2017 17:07
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Mordor She Wrote posted:Let's take over all the bird houses, really double down on calling Republicans russians, and girdlock all government functions! Apparently this is the way to success. I'm not sure what the bird house thing is about but otherwise yes
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:probably coincides with increase in frequency on how often russia and putin are covered in the american media so the average republican is more aware of putin and the tough man image that's designed to appeal to the likes of him/her, whereas before that people didn't really know who putin was and didn't give a poo poo? Well, yeah, but that just reinforces the argument that literally the only thing Republican voters care about is raw authority. Like, fifty years' worth of COMMUNISM BAD got tossed out in a second because they all swooned over Putin's biceps. Just demonstrates that all that supposed conservative ideology was bullshit all along.
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Mar 4, 2017 18:47
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Frijolero posted:Of course it's bullshit. Just 6 years ago, Mittens Romney was saying that Russia was an enemy. Putin's an authoritarian, corrupt as hell, murders journalists, and has started multiple wars while lying constantly about what he's doing. He wants to destabilize western governments to make it easier to expand Russia's territory. Raw russophobia, sure, irrational. I love vodka as much as anyone. Suspicion of Putin though? Completely rational. And Putin is the Russian government right now, so . . .
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Mar 4, 2017 18:54
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Frijolero posted:Russia wants to destabilize Western governments And your point is? So what? In realpolitik terms, Russia is sitting on the other side of the chessboard. I'm not trying to say our side is better, I'm saying Putin is opposed to our goals. "Buuuuut Amerikka also did bad things!" is just misdirection. Frijolero posted:
lol again, what's your point here? So what? Frijolero posted:
The "solution," such as it is, is ongoing balance-of-power politics, strong support of NATO, and a clear and unambiguous and stable foreign policy that reduces Putin's ability to exploit gaps and loopholes. The problem with Trump's freewheeling pull-it-out-his-rear end style of diplomacy is that Putin's going to think he can get away with things he would never have attempted if the US had a stable sane government. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he tried invading the baltic states, for example, which could potentially trigger a NATO response and nuclear war, just because Trump's idiocy made Putin think such a grab was a worthwhile risk. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Frijolero posted:Oh snap. I didn't know I was arguing with imperialists. I'll just see myself out cuz this poo poo is pointless. This is mega dumb. Saying "America has international interests that Putin opposes" is not being an "imperialist." Supporting the continued existence of NATO is not the same thing as supporting the invasion of Iraq. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mar 4, 2017 20:40
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Gianthogweed posted:I'm just going to dance in. Fart out this image. Then dance right out. hahah if he did that he'd actually be a good president spoilers: he'll never do that
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Mar 4, 2017 22:28
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new phone who dis posted:Advocating for a stable government while admitting that your chosen party should destabilize it as much as possible because you don't like the results of an election is some serious hypocrisy. You can accuse Trump of many things but "stability" is not one of them. The chaos of an impeachment proceeding, while not ideal, is relatively benign compared to Continued Trumpery. Past that, though, even setting aside Trump, the Republican agenda as a whole is going to be disastrous. Look at their plan to go into debt default, for example, or Paul Ryan's plan to repeal Medicaid. Blocking them in every legally possible way is, yes, more "stable" than allowing them to continue, because the Republican agenda is chaos and destruction.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Are they neglecting to mention health savings accouts, or is this a real single payer system? p. sure it's a fakeout
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Fog Tripper posted:He is the president because he won an election legally fair and square. He is now trying to do the things he promised to do if elected. And the Democrats get to delay and obstruct him, and that's good, so they should keep doing that
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new phone who dis posted:But we need a stable government! Not actuall what I said Also you're the one trying to simultaneously play reasonable moderate AND defend donald trump which is prettylol
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new phone who dis posted:You have Trump Derangement Syndrome and actually floated the theory that he's torturing puppies for financial gain. He is making it easier to torture puppies: that's not in dispute, that's factual. We can argue over the why, that's still open for discussion. But he has appointed puppy mill lobbyists to key posts. You're freezing up with Just World Fallacy: If trump were actually as bad as all the available facts indicate he is, the world would be a horrible place and the nation would be on a precipice much easier to just tell yourself it's not that bad
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Mnoba posted:the kkk love donald trump therefor he is a racist, it's the same exact logic and i can't believe you are defending it lmao Trump's racist 'cause he refused to rent apartments to black people or because he called mexicans rapists like, we don't even need the KKK thing the man is not a mystery, he ain't hiding the ball quote:"Is Donald Trump a racist?" the man asked, blinking away the light of the yellow face as he emerged from his mile-deep cave Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 4, 2017 |
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Mnoba posted:i will acknowledge those things yes, now will you acknowledge those same racists exists in the democrat part, including hrc? why are republicans still obsessed with bringing up Hillary as if she were relevant in any way y'all are straight up going Cadaver Synod on that [gendered slur]
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Mnoba posted:hrc also ran a racist campaign and is a racist, we all watched it in 2008 were you paying attention then? See, Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK in the 1940's, so the democrats are just as wait how are you using a computer if you're still stuck in the last century, do you even have internet in the decade you're posting from
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Harrower posted:I forget, did he call all mexicans rapists, or just some? Technically, he said "They're rapists," calling all Mexicans rapists, but then did try to course-correct and said "And some, I assume, are good people." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/06/16/full-text-donald-trump-announces-a-presidential-bid/?utm_term=.34dd48e638d9
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Fog Tripper posted:The depths of your disingenuous bullshit are limitless. Dude, I'm posting sources, you're just bullshitting. Which is basically what everyone should expect from a Trumpist.
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No no see see trump didn't say ALL mexicans are rapists just like all the ones HERE that's COMPLETELY different also "mexican isn't a race" I love watching Trumpists try to squirm around and pretend the orange cheeto isn't exactly as horrible as everyone knows he is If you're gonna support a racist cheeto, own it
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Kjoery posted:no frog tripper is so good, he posts the freshest, funniest memes, and makes cool original insults. dont be mean to frog tripper Not meaning to be mean to any one dude but just . . . if someone actually tries to argue Trump isn't a horrible racist, just lol like, David Duke and Richard Spencer aren't confused, why is anyone else?
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Kjoery posted:that poor man, all he wanted to do was exterminate all jews in the name of his cartoon frog and what does he get? punched in the face. He was too dapper to live Like, at least he had that part of being a Nazi down: dude has nice suits not like Hugo Boss level or anything but he's definitely a cut above the typical channer
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Mnoba posted:not based on legality, based on the 9th being the 9th Literally every court that's looked at the muslim ban has suspended it to one extent or another, the only difference with the 9th was the extent of the remedy they ordered
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insidius posted:The best part about being Australian is I can walk down the street, look my countrymen in the eyes and know they are not the kind of people who would vote for someone like trump. I used to think like that then Trump happened to my country it could happen to you
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