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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
hillary clinton told me pepe did hate crimes

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The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Business owning suburban baby boomers also voted overwhelmingly for Trump, lmao.

I don't think anyone doubts the irredeemable terribleness of boomers

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Plutonis posted:

A lot of it can be blamed on late capitalism but hey better pick up the loving cartoon frog as a scapegoat.

i'm guessing these suburban white kids didn't become nazis because they suffer under capitalism

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

succ posted:

I always thought the internet was drifting further and further left. But after this election I have no idea what to think. 4chan, alt-right Twitter, and all of the anti-academic/alt-right popular Youtubers shot that theory down.

internet cuts both ways sadly, you can say whatever awful thing crosses your brain meats in real time and anyone can do it no matter creed religion or beliefs

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 244 days!

Fallen Hamprince posted:

i'm guessing these suburban white kids didn't become nazis because they suffer under capitalism

counterpoint: we all suffer under capitalism, comrade

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Fallen Hamprince posted:

i'm guessing these suburban white kids didn't become nazis because they suffer under capitalism

It's because they don't have a single hope for their future and they don't have class consciences.

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

Fallen Hamprince posted:

i'm guessing these suburban white kids didn't become nazis because they suffer under capitalism

They're economically superfluous and lack any of the traditional heroic self-narratives that basically very other culture in history has held out to young men, to the point that they're turning en masse to the fake validation of video games and children's entertainment franchises.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Plutonis posted:

A lot of it can be blamed on late capitalism but hey better pick up the loving cartoon frog as a scapegoat.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Fallen Hamprince posted:

i'm guessing these suburban white kids didn't become nazis because they suffer under capitalism

Truly they are bearers of the Mark of Cain.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

The Kingfish posted:

It's because they don't have a single hope for their future and they don't have class consciences.

oh cool the 'economic anxiety' meme, where we learn that the richest and most employed demographic group became neonazis because of 'hopelessness'

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

oh cool the 'economic anxiety' meme, where we learn that the richest and most employed demographic group became neonazis because of 'hopelessness'

the reason they fetishize the 50s and classical gender roles is because they think that even failsons could raise a family then

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Fallen Hamprince posted:

oh cool the 'economic anxiety' meme, where we learn that the richest and most employed demographic group became neonazis because of 'hopelessness'

"Suburban youth" are not the richest or most employed demographic. They are deeply hopeless about the future because they live in deteriorating communities and because their formative political years were spent during the great recession.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the reason they fetishize the 50s and classical gender roles is because they think that even failsons could raise a family then

In the fifties a man could graduate highschool, get a job at the local factory, buy a house, and raise a family. That used to be an option.

People who literally would want to live in the 50s are racist. Cultural idealization of the 50s is completely unsurprising from a materialist perspective, and in some ways it should be encouraged.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Fallen Hamprince posted:

oh cool the 'economic anxiety' meme, where we learn that the richest and most employed demographic group became neonazis because of 'hopelessness'

Yea I mean their parents own refrigerators, what's the big deal? :smugdog:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The Kingfish posted:

In the fifties a man could graduate highschool, get a job at the local factory, buy a house, and raise a family. That used to be an option.

People who literally would want to live in the 50s are racist. Cultural idealization of the 50s is completely unsurprising from a materialist perspective, and in some ways it should be encouraged.

All I'm saying is, this economic anxiety stems from the promise of an idealized past which late capitalism fails to deliver. If they came into this world expecting to fail, they'd have never been this reactionary.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
yet mysteriously the majority of millennials are coping with their economic despair through means other than a frenzied embrace of right nationalism

there are other variables besides "suburban youth" at play dudes, especially given that youth voters, as usual, were much more likely than their parents to vote dem in 2016

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Reminder: Trump got elected after Obama.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

All I'm saying is, this economic anxiety stems from the promise of an idealized past which late capitalism fails to deliver. If they came into this world expecting to fail, they'd have never been this reactionary.

My point is that the 50s are idealized for a number of reasons, not all of them illegitimate.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

The Kingfish posted:

My point is that the 50s are idealized for a number of reasons, not all of them illegitimate.

if it were economic anxiety they'd idolize the 1970s, not the '50s. economic inequality started to climb from 1980 onward, the average family wasn't better off in real terms in the 50s than they were in the 70s. i wonder why this group of overwhelmingly male whites would pick the 50s, almost as though there was some kind of social movement after that decade that they disapprove of

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

if it were economic anxiety they'd idolize the 1970s, not the '50s. economic inequality started to climb from 1980 onward, the average family wasn't better off in real terms in the 50s than they were in the 70s. i wonder why this group of overwhelmingly male whites would pick the 50s, almost as though there was some kind of social movement after that decade that they disapprove of

The 70s were an unprecedented era of economic anxiety for Americans, between the oil crises and stagflation. Then again you're not American.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

it's not a coincidence that both mainstream republicans and the alt-right picked the decade immediately preceding women's lib and the civil rights movement to venerate as a lost golden age

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


"Huh, I wonder why Americans don't wax nostalgic about the 1970s, a decade where their president was impeached, they lost a major war, and they suffered from the worst recession since the great depression."

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

if it were economic anxiety they'd idolize the 1970s, not the '50s. economic inequality started to climb from 1980 onward, the average family wasn't better off in real terms in the 50s than they were in the 70s. i wonder why this group of overwhelmingly male whites would pick the 50s, almost as though there was some kind of social movement after that decade that they disapprove of

Everyone has their own understanding of the world. America in the 1950's is perhaps the golden age of prosperity, social unity and sheer national power as well as benefiting from being directly after WWII but before the social upheaval of the Vietnam and Civil rights era. As our society has decayed people have turned, at least in part, to whatever Trump represents in an attempt to capture something of the old glory. In doing so, they empower the very same elements which have undermined and corrupted that greatness.

In short, turn to Cassius Dio:

quote:

For our history now descends from a kingdom of gold to one of iron and rust, as affairs did for the Romans of that day.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

quote:

"The people that are coming in here from China, Indonesia and all of them countries, they're getting pregnant and coming here and having babies," Weber said, telling an Asian reporter that he meant no offense. "They get everything and the people that were born here can't get everything."

quote:

"Islam is traced patrilineally. I am a Muslim if my father is Muslim. In that sense, it is undeniable that Barack Obama was born a Muslim," Michael Rooney said at a Trump event in Worcester, Massachusetts, in November. (Obama is a Christian. He has said his father was born a Muslim and later became an atheist.)
Rooney, a respiratory therapist in his late 40s, likened Obama's Christian faith to Caitlyn Jenner's recent gender transition: "It is true that he now identifies as a Christian in the same sense that Bruce Jenner identifies as a woman."

quote:

Rhett Benhoff, a middle-aged white man at a December Trump campaign event in Raleigh, North Carolina, said discrimination against whites is "absolutely" real.
"I mean, it seems like we really go overboard to make sure all these other nationalities nowadays and colors have their fair shake of it, but no one's looking out for the white guy anymore," he said.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Three racist quotes, posted by a foreign neoliberal!

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 244 days!

Brother Friendship posted:

Everyone has their own understanding of the world. America in the 1950's is perhaps the golden age of prosperity, social unity and sheer national power as well as benefiting from being directly after WWII but before the social upheaval of the Vietnam and Civil rights era. As our society has decayed people have turned, at least in part, to whatever Trump represents in an attempt to capture something of the old glory. In doing so, they empower the very same elements which have undermined and corrupted that greatness.

In short, turn to Cassius Dio:

also the New Deal was in full swing and politically unassailable at the time

for some reason this is omitted :shrug:

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Brother Friendship posted:

Everyone has their own understanding of the world. America in the 1950's is perhaps the golden age of prosperity, social unity and sheer national power as well as benefiting from being directly after WWII but before the social upheaval of the Vietnam and Civil rights era. As our society has decayed people have turned, at least in part, to whatever Trump represents in an attempt to capture something of the old glory. In doing so, they empower the very same elements which have undermined and corrupted that greatness.

In short, turn to Cassius Dio:



not sure if this guy has heard about the social unity, maybe u should let him know

pushpins
Sep 11, 2006


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Can we start another meme that gets a girl stabbed to death? True Detective season 3 isn't going to write itself

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

1950s America was filled with people smiling and I don't believe it for a second!

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/GIJoter/status/833798157377040384

looks like somebody's mad about stagflation!

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the reason they fetishize the 50s and classical gender roles is because they think that even failsons could raise a family then

well, look at their parents and grand parents. they've got proof that idiots used to be able to get by. i mean, most of the people who got by in the 50s were ignorant as gently caress.

Relevant Tangent has issued a correction as of 03:51 on Feb 21, 2017

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
The racism is real but the racism is a consequence of economics

what they want more than anything else is security, they believe they can get that security in a racist state, hence racism

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

i was gonna post a hot take about racism and economics but this is the thread for making fun of 4chan nazis

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Doorknob Slobber posted:

wasn't part of it the whole cracking down on porn and file sharing? especially porn that wasn't very legal?

Yes. It was made by ex users who were posting naked anime kids. Were told to stop, then kept posting same anime kids in swimsuits instead. They got banned, made 4chan, and a bunch of other users kept posting the same poo poo and a huge purge came and 4chan exploded into a huge pile of "I'm going to wipe my drive for even thinking about browsing this site.".

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
I'm really excited for SA to start showing up more and more in conspiracy theories as time goes by. Glenn Beck was an early pioneer in this regard but I'm confident that the best is yet to come. I want to read about how VileRat and Caro were CIA agents, LF unleashed cultural Marxism and SJWs on the internet, 4chan was a long-con by Lowtax to create the Trump presidency, and slenderman is a Luciferian meme-spell created to steal the souls of children.

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief
so 4chan, child porn, milo, bill maher, and trump all have something in common


note my surprise:

:smugjones:

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Helsing posted:

I'm really excited for SA to start showing up more and more in conspiracy theories as time goes by. Glenn Beck was an early pioneer in this regard but I'm confident that the best is yet to come. I want to read about how VileRat and Caro were CIA agents, LF unleashed cultural Marxism and SJWs on the internet, 4chan was a long-con by Lowtax to create the Trump presidency, and slenderman is a Luciferian meme-spell created to steal the souls of children.

LF was more cultural Maoism imo

millions of peasants melting down their books into inferior quality fanfics

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Let 100 shitposts bloom

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Helsing posted:

I'm really excited for SA to start showing up more and more in conspiracy theories as time goes by. Glenn Beck was an early pioneer in this regard but I'm confident that the best is yet to come. I want to read about how VileRat and Caro were CIA agents, LF unleashed cultural Marxism and SJWs on the internet, 4chan was a long-con by Lowtax to create the Trump presidency, and slenderman is a Luciferian meme-spell created to steal the souls of children.

all of it is true, even and especially all of the ones that have yet to be written

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The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

Fallen Hamprince posted:

LF was more cultural Maoism imo

millions of peasants melting down their books into inferior quality fanfics

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