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Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

bewilderment posted:

what kind of monster wouldn't want to watch Garbo and Malloy. THAT'S A WHOPPAH

On the other hand while it doesn't matter at all in the end, I guess things are slightly more positive if you don't talk to your mom on a certain day.

That conversation turned really super uncomfortable really super fast.

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Seluin
Jan 4, 2004

Oxxidation posted:

That conversation turned really super uncomfortable really super fast.

That's the one that gave me serious, "oh god, my childhood" feelings.

Specifically that people I love can have a lovely day, and that can bubble up into ugly fights.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011
I have a confession to make.

I played with the yarn ball at the town bulletin board for about 3 minutes.

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

Honestly I think most kids who drop out of college and come home have WAY more uncomfortable conversations than what's in this game. Mae gets off easy.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
I also thought that fight they had just made their relationship stronger. That whole thing was really well done. Can you avoid having that fight altogether by remembering to go to church with her like she asks?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

an actual dog posted:

Honestly I think most kids who drop out of college and come home have WAY more uncomfortable conversations than what's in this game. Mae gets off easy.

I think for kids in those situations parents who are mostly loving and supportive can be pretty stressful too, because they constantly feel like they're letting their families down just by existing and can go down even more self-destructive paths to deliberately stoke resentment and feel justifiably hated. I wasn't in Mae's exact situation but some of that percolating stress in her household definitely felt familiar.

Also holy poo poo I don't know which of Mae's friends wrote the bassline for Pumpkin Headed Guy but they were clearly possessed by the devil.

kurona_bright
Mar 21, 2013
I wished I switched to keyboard controls for that one; switching between a and y on the game pad was really hard. The solo (?) section loving murdered me despite that though.

Also at macaluso: nope! I went to the church every chance I got and it still happened.

kurona_bright fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Feb 27, 2017

Asymmetrikon
Oct 30, 2009

I believe you're a big dork!
Yeah, using a controller I eventually started using two thumbs on the face button to do the rhythm bits, and that kinda worked.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

kurona_bright posted:

I wished I switched to keyboard controls for that one; switching between a and y on the game pad was really hard. The solo (?) section loving murdered me despite that though.

Also at macaluso: nope! I went to the church every chance I got and it still happened.

I can breeze past the A-Y-A-Y bits on a controller no problem but yeah, that solo is a god damned ballbuster and I keep force-closing the game on failing it because I do not wish to look the fool in front of my man Gregg.

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

bewilderment posted:

For reals though what's up with the janitor



Got a definite The Stranger vibe from the dude



VVV yes. vvv

Sushi in Yiddish fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Feb 27, 2017

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

an actual dog posted:

Honestly I think most kids who drop out of college and come home have WAY more uncomfortable conversations than what's in this game. Mae gets off easy.

Do you we ever get a straight answer of Mae? I keep hoping talking to our Mom or Bea will help but not yet.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Alder posted:

Do you we ever get a straight answer of Mae? I keep hoping talking to our Mom or Bea will help but not yet.

You do eventually tell Bea all what's going on and why you dropped out. You never tell your mom but it's assumed you mention it to her after the game is over. You never get to see that talk happen though

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Macaluso posted:

You do eventually tell Bea all what's going on and why you dropped out. You never tell your mom but it's assumed you mention it to her after the game is over. You never get to see that talk happen though

Alright I hope it's more than just "i didn't feel like my place" and how do I open the graveyard gate?

mareep
Dec 26, 2009

Alder posted:

Alright I hope it's more than just "i didn't feel like my place" and how do I open the graveyard gate?

Gotta jump up onto the overhanging branch and stomp on it a few times

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



Just finished it. It was a solid experience. I totally identify with Mae as a character. I dropped out of college due to a mental breakdown, and having those awkward conversations, or trying to avoid those conversations, is absolutely a thing. That and I love Mae's "eff the police" attitude, and the throwaway line about beating up fascists was very satisfying.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


I think the cast of this game are more expressive and human than just about any AAA game.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



The cause of all Mae's problems turned out to be playing too many video games.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Nichael posted:

I think the cast of this game are more expressive and human than just about any AAA game.

It's amazing how they instantly made Gregg endearing just by giving him a basic "happy" expression when everyone else's faces are relatively static.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



Oxxidation posted:

It's amazing how they instantly made Gregg endearing just by giving him a basic "happy" expression when everyone else's faces are relatively static.

Bea and Angus both have happy expressions, it's that they both only use them like once or twice.

--
While I understand that time is abstracted and Mae probable eats three meals a day rather than an amount between 0 and 1, it does feel a little amusing and also odd that we see Mae go to bed after removing clothes, and then wake up by putting those exact same clothes on without any washing up or showering or whatever.

kidcoelacanth
Sep 23, 2009

bewilderment posted:

Bea and Angus both have happy expressions, it's that they both only use them like once or twice.

--
While I understand that time is abstracted and Mae probable eats three meals a day rather than an amount between 0 and 1, it does feel a little amusing and also odd that we see Mae go to bed after removing clothes, and then wake up by putting those exact same clothes on without any washing up or showering or whatever.

Scott Benson has mentioned that Mae not showering at all over the course of the game is very much intentional and she's supposed to be kind of a dirtball

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



kidcoelacanth posted:

Scott Benson has mentioned that Mae not showering at all over the course of the game is very much intentional and she's supposed to be kind of a dirtball

Yeah, Mae refers to herself as a "garbage mammal" and it's def intentional that she's basically a trash person.

The Crotch
Oct 16, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bethany Hockenberry invented the Dirtbag Left.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Swamp Husband would be a good username, hint hint, whoever the eff mods the games subforum

also I really like Lori M I'm assuming that was who the super backer or whoever was ad I am glad of it

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
She doesn't take her clothes off, just her shoes. She doesn't change her clothes at all over the course of the two weeks or so the game takes place, outside of putting her costume on that one time, I think.

Which, yeah, pretty true to life when it comes to depression. Also really gross, speaking as a person who has been that gross in the past. Depression sucks.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 27, 2017

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Just beat it tonight. Was the cult member who grabbed Mae in the mine Casey? When the lights were flickering and his hood came off, I swear the head was cat-shaped.

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

symbolic posted:

Just beat it tonight. Was the cult member who grabbed Mae in the mine Casey? When the lights were flickering and his hood came off, I swear the head was cat-shaped.

If you ask them what they did to Casey, they tell you they threw him down the hole, justifying it by saying he was a low life who was going to end up like his brother who died in a meth lab explosion.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

ishikabibble posted:

If you ask them what they did to Casey, they tell you they threw him down the hole, justifying it by saying he was a low life who was going to end up like his brother who died in a meth lab explosion.

Yeah, I asked that question and got that response, but I still can't help but shake the feeling. The split second they show the silhouette of the person under the hood feels like it's there for a reason.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
We don't know who it was. Some people think it's Molly (Aunt Mall Cop) but both her ears are intact, and the cultist has a notched ear like Mae does.

Anyway, given their recruiting conversation and whatnot, I don't think the cult has gotten any new blood in quite a while. Casey's down in the hole.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Game's good. Probably gonna replay it in a month or so because Gregg rulz, okay. Definitely don't regret going full Bea for my first playthrough though, painful as it got sometimes. Does anyone know what happens if you like, mix and match spending time with Gregg and Bea? I can't imagine Bea's party scene having anywhere near the same impact if it's like the second time you ever hung out with her.

Also, I thought that I combed every inch of the town every day, but somehow I guess I never found Lori or got any of her scenes at all! Where does she even hang out?

Finally, anyone else get the impression that Bruce 100% killed himself?

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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dmboogie posted:

Game's good. Probably gonna replay it in a month or so because Gregg rulz, okay. Definitely don't regret going full Bea for my first playthrough though, painful as it got sometimes. Does anyone know what happens if you like, mix and match spending time with Gregg and Bea? I can't imagine Bea's party scene having anywhere near the same impact if it's like the second time you ever hung out with her.

Also, I thought that I combed every inch of the town every day, but somehow I guess I never found Lori or got any of her scenes at all! Where does she even hang out?

Finally, anyone else get the impression that Bruce 100% killed himself?

Wrt to your spoiler, I heard other people got that impression so probably? I thought the cult got to him because he was a drifter. Seemed like he'd be a prime target for them.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I think he probably left before the cult got him, at least. Whether he killed himself or not, I'm not entirely sure, but he was definitely lying about going back to his family; earlier conversations with him implied his daughter being either estranged or dead, so I think he was just trying to spare Mae's feelings there.

I wonder if there's a way for that whole thing to end differently. I missed a day with them due to accidentally progressing early, so that might have caused problems for me.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

dmboogie posted:

Also, I thought that I combed every inch of the town every day, but somehow I guess I never found Lori or got any of her scenes at all! Where does she even hang out?

near the statue in the center of town the first one or two days, then two buildings to the left of the church stairs, way up high kittycorner to the window with the parade floats/rat family

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Wowporn posted:

near the statue in the center of town the first one or two days, then two buildings to the left of the church stairs, way up high kittycorner to the window with the parade floats/rat family

She's also down in the underground once or twice.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Wowporn posted:

near the statue in the center of town the first one or two days, then two buildings to the left of the church stairs, way up high kittycorner to the window with the parade floats/rat family

Ohhhhhh, THAT'S her. I wondered why I never saw her again after the first day, whoops. In retrospect I don't think I actually explored all the roofs, so that explains that.

Other scattered ending thoughts: Are the four council people anywhere to be seen in the epilogue, because they seem like the type of people who'd totally be in the hosed up cult. (Also, I appreciated that the game didn't even try to frame it as a choice whether or not to even listen to those fucks any longer than you had to; I was totally with Angus on that one.)

Aunt Mallcop was a really weird character in general, because she's given a super prominent spotlight during most of the plot events that just... never leads to anything? Like, she's MIA for the entire final act and the epilogue, apart from mentioning that she found Mae. I guess she's mostly there to build up tension, but it feels like a waste for that to be her ONLY purpose?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Btw the best character in the game is the Weird Teens

youcallthatatwist
Sep 22, 2013

dmboogie posted:

Ohhhhhh, THAT'S her. I wondered why I never saw her again after the first day, whoops. In retrospect I don't think I actually explored all the roofs, so that explains that.

Other scattered ending thoughts: Are the four council people anywhere to be seen in the epilogue, because they seem like the type of people who'd totally be in the hosed up cult. (Also, I appreciated that the game didn't even try to frame it as a choice whether or not to even listen to those fucks any longer than you had to; I was totally with Angus on that one.)

Aunt Mallcop was a really weird character in general, because she's given a super prominent spotlight during most of the plot events that just... never leads to anything? Like, she's MIA for the entire final act an
d the epilogue, apart from mentioning that she found Mae. I guess she's mostly there to build up tension, but it feels like a waste for that to be her ONLY purpose?


Someone remind me whether or not Molly was in the epilogue at all? Because if not I think the implication was that she was one of the cultists, hence why she appears right after the first "ghost sighting", her comments about protecting people like Mae, etc. In that case her warnings throughout the game come off as sympathetic; she legitimately didn't want Mae to get hurt.

bewilderment
Nov 22, 2007
man what



Macaluso posted:

Btw the best character in the game is the Weird Teens

Weird teens are high up there but the coolest character in the game is Mr Chazokov who always has kind words for you, cares about you, lets you use his telescope and tells cool stories.
Also he has a distinctive laugh.
Is Chazokov a Dark Souls character in disguise?

edit:
It is a crime that it's not easy to rip the music from the game so you can't easily listen to the darker version of Die Anywhere Else that plays during Proximity.

bewilderment fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Feb 27, 2017

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

youcallthatatwist posted:

Someone remind me whether or not Molly was in the epilogue at all? Because if not I think the implication was that she was one of the cultists, hence why she appears right after the first "ghost sighting", her comments about protecting people like Mae, etc. In that case her warnings throughout the game come off as sympathetic; she legitimately didn't want Mae to get hurt.

Yeah I didn't think she'd bother updating Mae on the details of the chopped-off arm if she was part of it. I think she said that the person was dead when it was cut off. Possible that the coroner was lying or I wonder if that meant that the cult guys really were super long lived to the point of kind of undeath...I mean they actually do have some kind of supernatural powers right?

mareep
Dec 26, 2009

Did anyone look around to see if any background characters went missing after the mine caves in? The only one I noticed was that pair of people up the stairs right next to the Snack Falcon (I think one is a bird but now I'm totally forgetting). The guy on the right was gone the next morning, even though both of them had been there every day without fail before then.

Ooh also, does beating Demon Tower do anything?


VVV Dang!! That would have been extremely juicy.

mareep fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Feb 27, 2017

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dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

redcheval posted:

Did anyone look around to see if any background characters went missing after the mine caves in? The only one I noticed was that pair of people up the stairs right next to the Snack Falcon (I think one is a bird but now I'm totally forgetting). The guy on the right was gone the next morning, even though both of them had been there every day without fail before then.

Ooh also, does beating Demon Tower do anything?


On the last day before the endgame stuff, the guy by the Snack Falcon says that he's moving, since he got a better job in a different town.

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