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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I was looking forward to this game a lot, pre-ordered it, played through it when it came out, and liked it a lot. It's very good. I recommend it a lot. Go play it.

I may write more later, but seriously, it's good.

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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Relin posted:

i guess the game strongly encourages replaying, i've only hung out with bea and turned down hanging out with germ twice and the mother once

I don't know about Germ since I didn't realize you could actually go to the place where his scenes happen until after I played the game and someone told me, but hanging out with Mae's mom (and at least one other not-Bea/Gregg/Angus) character doesn't actually go to the next day, so you can do their things without worry.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

kidcoelacanth posted:

One of my favorite moments of the game was Selmers dropping that loving banger of a poem at the library. I talked to her and listened to her poems every day which really set that up so well.

I did too, so I didn't know this until someone told me, but you need to listen to her for her to do that. If you don't listen to her poems she won't be there. You listening to her every day gave her the confidence to go out and do that.

And yeah, that moment was great.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Mae emotes a lot, Angus a fair amount too, Bea not often but it's super-obvious when she does, and Angus gets some subtle expressions here and there. More minor characters don't emote as much, but you can notice it for some if you look.

Macaluso posted:

edit: Watching the trailer in the OP again, I definitely didn't do the knife fight or the deer hunting???

I think those are things you do with Gregg; almost every day you get a chance to do something with him or Bea, before heading home for the day. You can't see everything in one playthrough.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
11.7 hours for my first playthrough, with some Demontower (hit floor 7), attempting to see as much as possible but accidentally skipping parts of a couple days by activating Bea's events early and not realizing where to find Germ most of the time (the abandoned Food Donkey or whatever it is opens eventually, don't be like me and assume since every time you try to go there the first few days you can't that you can't ever), and having some trouble as my USB controller I never use fell somewhere and had the stick pressed to the side and I spent a while trying to figure out why Mae wanted to move right even when I pressed other things.

Planning on at least one more playthrough, probably two, to see things I didn't the first time and try to find everything, but not immediately; I'm pretty satisfied with the story and don't feel the need to immediately jump back in. Been in a pretty good mood since I finished it, really. On the Undertale comparison, while it's definitely not the same thing it's definitely the game that's affected me the most since Undertale. Probably even moreso, really.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
She doesn't take her clothes off, just her shoes. She doesn't change her clothes at all over the course of the two weeks or so the game takes place, outside of putting her costume on that one time, I think.

Which, yeah, pretty true to life when it comes to depression. Also really gross, speaking as a person who has been that gross in the past. Depression sucks.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 27, 2017

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
We don't know who it was. Some people think it's Molly (Aunt Mall Cop) but both her ears are intact, and the cultist has a notched ear like Mae does.

Anyway, given their recruiting conversation and whatnot, I don't think the cult has gotten any new blood in quite a while. Casey's down in the hole.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I think he probably left before the cult got him, at least. Whether he killed himself or not, I'm not entirely sure, but he was definitely lying about going back to his family; earlier conversations with him implied his daughter being either estranged or dead, so I think he was just trying to spare Mae's feelings there.

I wonder if there's a way for that whole thing to end differently. I missed a day with them due to accidentally progressing early, so that might have caused problems for me.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Wowporn posted:

near the statue in the center of town the first one or two days, then two buildings to the left of the church stairs, way up high kittycorner to the window with the parade floats/rat family

She's also down in the underground once or twice.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

BallisticClipboard posted:

Anyone know the correct ingredients for the "Shopping with Bea" event? I did Shakey Bake Chicken with Cream of Chicken and Mashed Potatoes and very messed up.

Also Mae is such an rear end in a top hat and doesn't know it. I kinda love it.

I did mac and cheese, green beans, biscuits, Shakey Bakey, and ground beef, and got an "alright" result but no achievement; not sure if that's because it wasn't a "good" result or just because I played before the patch that fixed most of the achievements. There was even dialog pointing out that it was basically a pile of carbs and ground beef and you can't really go wrong with it, even if it's not great.

I hear that the good result involves pork chops, potatoes (not mashed), green beans, and Shakey Bakey. Not sure if you need one more thing as well or not, since you can add another as far as I'm aware, but, yeah.

And yeah, that's one of several moments where I was desperately trying to make Mae not be an oblivious jackass and couldn't. Oh Mae.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 10:42 on Mar 1, 2017

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Axelgear posted:

So, I saw some achievements on a friend's account that make me wonder if there's NG+ content (they were about the season changing), or if the game's achievement system is simply horribly bugged.

That's just the achievement for beating the last chapter. It was bugged on release but should be fixed now. Reload your game file to get them, should get them upon resuming, even if you beat the game and it just loads up the final cutscene again.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Macaluso posted:

Is there something that makes people think the creepy dude isn't Mae's aunt? I figured that's what we were supposed to assume once his hat comes off at the end and you get the silhouette of a cat that has the same hair style as Mae's mom. You don't see her at all during the final day, granted you don't see her every day but still.

Silhouette doesn't match Molly's at all. The cultist has notches in both ears and cheek fuzz/whiskers that she lacks. Also the aforementioned hints at the cult being mostly male (and I think some implying that that particular person in male, though I can't remember).

Plus, you saw that cultist kidnap someone, and Molly shows up behind Mae while Mae's following that guy. I don't believe that the cult has the supernatural powers other people think they do (appearing out of the darkness is visual shorthand for coming out of hiding, it doesn't mean the guy teleported out of nowhere to attack Mae in the mines), so the chances of Molly somehow appearing behind Mae when Mae is chasing and possibly staring directly at her is... Unlikely. Even if she's a cultist, she's not that cultist.

That said, the city council people or whoever I can totally see as probable cult members.

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Mar 7, 2017

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Wowporn posted:

other than the town's reaction to the ending I don't think there's really that much more that feels pressing to answer

Yeah, the ending being how it is feels sort of the point, to me. There aren't easy solutions to the problems plaguing Mae, her friends, or the town as a whole, and wrapping up all that conclusively would feel cheap or depressing, depending on how it was done. Especially given how closely it mirrors people's real experiences. Meanwhile, things like what exactly is up with all the supernatural stuff and whether it was real or just Mae being unwell and the cultists being desperate and, you know, cultists don't really matter that much. Like, if the old god in the mines or whatever isn't just a hallucination, it's still not bringing back the jobs that left Possum Springs; I highly doubt that it's going to undo factory automation or make coal profitable again, no matter how many people are thrown into that hole. The thematic aspects of that and such are more important, and not only does it not need to be answered explicitly, I kind of don't think it should be.

And yeah, I doubt the game will get a direct sequel. As much as I love it and the characters I'm not sure it needs one, either. (Though I am looking forward to the patch to fix up those last achievements and maybe add in a final scene with Germ, since a big one with him apparently got cut despite basically being complete.)

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Mar 7, 2017

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
He was a dog but everyone assumed he was a fox and the creator eventually went "well fine" as I understand it.

Also, it's been pointed out before, but the four dream animals matching up with the members of City Council (bear, squirrel, alligator, long-necked bird) has to be deliberate. Most likely interpretation is them having something to do with the cult, which most people have assumed anyway. (And yes, that one person actually is a squirrel from what I can tell; a friend's been streaming his playthrough and I took a close look and, despite superficially resembling Gregg, there's some differences in shape and noticeably blunter teeth.) Which, on a tangent, is another instance where everyone lacking tails makes the type of animal they are not immediately apparent. Though I can see multiple reasons why they wouldn't give them tails, so I don't disagree with that decision.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Latest patch fixed some of the bugged drawings and stuff, by the way. There are even two you get at the end after the credits that you (or at least I) didn't get before, one of which probably depends on your ending.

RIP Casey. The Bea and Mae road trip drawing is adorable though.

Also I think they finally fixed Mae's shoes already being on when she gets dressed after waking up, not sure. Was watching a friend stream it and only got a glimpse but one of her feet looked different there.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yeah, a contrast I noticed is the constellations versus Mae's breakdown. Seeing things in shapes and finding meaning in them, versus seeing things as shapes without meaning.

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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I heard about it during the Kickstarter, but had no money then and thus couldn't back it, as much as I wanted to.

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