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Top City Homo posted:my friend was in Ukraine and It's rebranded Bud Lite Because it's pissssssssssssssssss
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LGD posted:"Butlerian Jihad" no it will only be rendered in sequences of binary because lmao if you think for a second humans can take skynet
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Tunicate posted:It's rebranded Bud Lite the piss tapes Trump beer There must be a connection
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Top City Homo posted:the piss tapes *lives in a room wallpapered with newspapers and head shots connected by countless different colored strings* i know there is a connection *exhales vape*
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I think the flash point is probably going to be automation. Like it wouldn't surprise me if in the future we refer to it as "the automation crisis" or "the automation depression." Yep, which is why you should do everything you can to motivate everyone you know to campaign for single-payer, free college tuition, and even a basic income starting now.
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Tunicate posted:It's rebranded Bud Lite it does taste like piss now that i think about it; i suppose that's why I avoid it at rust belt campaign rallies
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The effects of automation is a little overstated, ai isn't easy or comprehensive as people think The cause is capital accumulation and deindustrialization Yet MAD means there's no big war to destroy capital and return profitability And the presence of the internet has changed everything The existence of the internet alone means a classics WW1 scenario is impossible I think the deciding factor has to be technology, but not of the automation kind. Does technology only serve the interests of the powerful? If it does, we lose. If it can be repurposed for our needs, we win.
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rudatron posted:The effects of automation is a little overstated, ai isn't easy or comprehensive as people think it can be repurposed for the proletariat, or precariat if you will, but people have to be willing to inform themselves in order to do so they must inform themselves, because the information will not be provided to them, and because of this there are plenty of people shouting without understanding their subject matter or effectuating any actual change
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OP the answer is "Boy that Trump fella, I just don't know."
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Hello, Mr. Kasich.
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rudatron posted:The effects of automation is a little overstated, ai isn't easy or comprehensive as people think This matters for white collar jobs but for traditional blue collar employment yeah they are screwed, automation has being an ongoing trend since the 1970s: it's just that with automated cars instead of machinery improvements which reduces factory by 1% at a time people are finally waking up to it quote:deindustrialization  but industrial employment does not keep up with manufacturing growth 
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It's weird how Marx's model was so predictive and descriptive but ~because stalin~ people think he just said to kill rich people, government should nationalize all industry or w/e
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Modest Mao posted:It's weird how Marx's model was so predictive and descriptive but ~because stalin~ people think he just said to kill rich people, government should nationalize all industry or w/e Marx never predicted the rise of a service industry to match employment in factories: his model basically had everyone unemployed decades ago if it turned out correctly
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Service industry wages and working conditions aren't much better than being unemployed
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KomradeX posted:Service industry wages and working conditions aren't much better than being unemployed the service industry is a lot more than guys working in walmarts
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And did you think horrid working conditions isn't the majority of life for people in the service industry? Cause knowing plenty of college grads stuck in it, it's loving awful
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KomradeX posted:And did you think horrid working conditions isn't the majority of life for people in the service industry? Cause knowing plenty of college grads stuck in it, it's loving awful the service sector is 80% of US gdp so yes there are gonna be lovely jobs in it but healthcare (almost 1/5 of the economy) is also a service sector industry and there are plenty of good jobs in it Oh and healthcare alone is prob gonna match all manufacturing industry as % of US gdp pretty soon according to marx we would have like 70-80% unemployment prob Typo has issued a correction as of 17:15 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Typo posted:the service industry is a lot more than guys working in walmarts The labor participation rate has steadily been going down since the '08 recession. Everything lines up with capitalist crisis theory.
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The fact that all the future jobs involve mortgaging your soul for a degree so that you can struggle desperately with insurance companies in order to get paid, all so that you can wring a few moments of life from the rattling bones of generations past--this is not an indication of a healthy economy.
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Modest Mao posted:It's weird how Marx's model was so predictive and descriptive but ~because stalin~ people think he just said to kill rich people, government should nationalize all industry or w/e https://youtube.com/watch?v=YjH2T4d-ZWE
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Best Giraffe posted:The fact that all the future jobs involve mortgaging your soul for a degree so that you can struggle desperately with insurance companies in order to get paid, all so that you can wring a few moments of life from the rattling bones of generations past--this is not an indication of a healthy economy. Heh, someones never heard of #Vanlife
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Typo posted:the service sector is 80% of US gdp so yes there are gonna be lovely jobs in it 
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Honestly all you need to do to adapt to automation is 1. close tax loopholes and tax capital gains as income 2. implement a basic income Unfortunately they're virtually impossible right now and even when they're absolutely necessary instead of just good it'll be like pulling teeth to get them enacted.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Honestly all you need to do to adapt to automation is I honestly have no idea how to deal with tax evasion via capital mobility how do you prevent ppl from having shell companies in Ireland? I guess we can eventually invade the Cayman islands but I don't think we can invade Ireland.
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Typo posted:I honestly have no idea how to deal with tax evasion via capital mobility Hold our markets hostage.
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Typo posted:I honestly have no idea how to deal with tax evasion via capital mobility Seal team six except tax evasion
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Hold our markets hostage. It's seriously this simple and it's the solution to other international economic race-to-the-bottom problems like outsourcing to slave labor and climate change resolution noncompliance but nobody in the U.S. has the balls to do it, not even "protectionist" "Deal From Strength" Trump.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:It's seriously this simple and it's the solution to other international economic race-to-the-bottom problems like outsourcing to slave labor and climate change resolution noncompliance but nobody in the U.S. has the balls to do it, not even "Deal From Strength" Trump. the labor standard part is literally what TPP tried to do and it got killed
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Typo posted:the labor standard part is literally what TPP tried to do and it got killed TPP was totally toothless, all it said was that certain laws had to exist, not their specifics. I.e. you would comply with the agreement if your country's minimum wage was 50 cents or that workers could not work more than 90 hours a week.
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Also TPP let companies sue governments for not being pro corporate enough.
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Typo posted:I honestly have no idea how to deal with tax evasion via capital mobility Capital controls, forced reporting of foreign accounts owned by Americans (like was in a tiny baby step with FATCA which the financial industry has been bitching and moaning about for years and which is circumventable with shell companies so extending it to shell companies would be a start), seizure or extremely high taxation of all foreign-owned property. There are records of who owns every financial asset (otherwise nobody would be able to get the rents or dividends to the owners), they are just privately owned. The recordkeeping should just be nationalized.
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Hahahaahh how the gently caress are tax heavens real Hahahahah just nationalize that poo poo like seize their assets hahahah
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Tax havens are stealing our money.
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"you will all die! ahahahahaha"
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The Kingfish posted:Tax havens are stealing our money. Bandit Hideouts for Billionaire Bandits out stealing money from the public
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FuzzySkinner posted:If it helps? I think Jimmy Carter was probably the last decent man to run the country. I think he came in at the wrong time sadly (Imagine him running the country during the 90's or 2000's during times of relative peace) gently caress you.
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Typo posted:according to marx we would have like 70-80% unemployment prob Current unemployment in the US is 41.4% so he's not too far off. edited because of georgia math Peanut President has issued a correction as of 01:24 on Apr 26, 2017 |
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Peanut President posted:gently caress you. Listen man it's good you're building houses, but you also really hosed over unions
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jimmy carter is undoubtedly personally responsible for at least one anaphylaxis-related death due to a nut allergy
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what i'm trying to say is that jimmy carter was no angel
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