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I want to buy a dozen bibles but my preferred version (NABRE) is rather expensive in print copies (and cheap as digital!)
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Rime posted:Bushcrafters annoy me. Possibly more than vampire LARPers, and that's saying something. Ray Mears is a saint, sir. Have you no shame?
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im going to build a massive still in my rural retreat and im going to drink to god's glory every single day after the missiles fly
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what's the simplest way to make yourself indispensable after it all goes wrong? ideally something that is simple to demonstrate to my future neanderthal overlords but difficult to pass on to anybody
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break-up breakdown posted:what's the simplest way to make yourself indispensable after it all goes wrong? ideally something that is simple to demonstrate to my future neanderthal overlords but difficult to pass on to anybody im going for LIQUOR MAKER
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Avshalom posted:you can't outrun my breasts pm me
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break-up breakdown posted:what's the simplest way to make yourself indispensable after it all goes wrong? ideally something that is simple to demonstrate to my future neanderthal overlords but difficult to pass on to anybody Goons always looking for the lifehacks.
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break-up breakdown posted:what's the simplest way to make yourself indispensable after it all goes wrong? ideally something that is simple to demonstrate to my future neanderthal overlords but difficult to pass on to anybody
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Tbqh my wife is one of these preppers. I, on the other hand, do not think I could handle life without electronics long term. I go on week-long hiking trips or longer sometimes but knowing that I can never boot up my VR console and go onto FuckMaster3000 and gently caress an anime base would just make life unbearable.
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break-up breakdown posted:what's the simplest way to make yourself indispensable after it all goes wrong? ideally something that is simple to demonstrate to my future neanderthal overlords but difficult to pass on to anybody Electrical/mechanical engineering, chemistry, or medicine.
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I went to a prepper panel at a con once. Libertarian lesbians talking about putting human remains of raiders in a compost pile. Good times.
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skull mask mcgee posted:Under what scenario do you imagine that whatever's left of an actual standing military won't just come through and take your poo poo? Middle of nowhere Montana is not actually getting raided by a standing military (ignoring the odds that a standing military rapidly devolves into roaming and mutually hostile gangs of bandits) because aside from a dozen chickens and some pigs you're not getting anything of military value. If you're at the point where you're rebuilding a civilization and want to start levying taxes, the last thing you do is take all the pigs and chickens away from someone who actually knows how to turn them into a food surplus.
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Interestingly, I started a thread a few days ago on the exact scenario described in the OP (a Captain Trips situation) and it isn't being threadshitted to hell and back by Avshalom. If you want to discuss the specific apocalypse of "superbug," head on over!
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Feb 23, 2017 19:06
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good article on prepper fiction http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/books/2016/10/prepper_fiction_reveals_dark_truths.html
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Feb 23, 2017 19:27
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Rime posted:This is a good point, but indeed that discontinuity may be the very thing most survivalists are seeking. As the synopsis from the book Starshark mentions: If this were, the case, why are you seeing an explosion in preppers precisely when the median household wages of the households in question are trending flat, if not downwards? I agree that anomie is the cause for prepperism, though. In a world without a compelling vision for the future (to borrow from Adam Curtis), this will be just one of its manifestations.
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Budget Dracula posted:good article on prepper fiction Huffman has calculated that, in the event of a disaster, he would seek out some form of community: “Being around other people is a good thing. I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.” Dude is presupposing a community that relies on slavery. Jesus, it's only the worst sort of people who want to live through the apocalypse.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Middle of nowhere Montana is not actually getting raided by a standing military (ignoring the odds that a standing military rapidly devolves into roaming and mutually hostile gangs of bandits) because aside from a dozen chickens and some pigs you're not getting anything of military value. If you're at the point where you're rebuilding a civilization and want to start levying taxes, the last thing you do is take all the pigs and chickens away from someone who actually knows how to turn them into a food surplus. Yeah I don't see why they would care about random smallholder farms. It could get pretty rough in the rural expanses though - the government and military would focus on the major metropolitan areas so that's where there will still be some rule of law and best chance of some basic services. Getting food, power, water, medicine etc. to rural Montana will be the last priority.
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Avshalom posted:every inch of my naked body is taut and hungry sinew you're born naked and you die naked circle of life
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if nuclear war happens humanity would be able to quickly rebuild without the 1st world, lmao. there are plenty of countries that aren't Russia/China/US that have the ability to produce food, technology, and weapons for themselves. nuclear winter or fallout situations are stupid nerd fantasies written by people who have a boner for badly written and unscientific "everyone dies and is hosed" fiction. the only places that would be "blasted back to the stone age" would be america bc people don't give a poo poo about one another here. if you really want an apocalyptic situation then be worried about, technological upheaval causing massive social unrest, being in an area hit by unchecked global warming, or being hit by a meteor idk those are way more realistic than assuming nukes are going to turn earth into the cartoon ice age movie
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As long as you discount the fact that the US and Russia have enough warheads to encompass every habitable place on earth within at least a secondary blast radius, sure thing
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call to action posted:As long as you discount the fact that the US and Russia have enough warheads to encompass every habitable place on earth within at least a secondary blast radius, sure thing every single declassified document from the US and Russia very clearly state that every single one of their warheads are going to be used targeting the other actor in a nuclear war because that is the only viable military strategy. wasting nukes and valuable time aiming them to blow up some south american country is so laughable and stupid that it isn't seriously considered by anyone who would be selecting targets in a theoretical nuclear war there are a shitload of deep bunkers, airports, and other military targets in Russia/US that have to be hit by multiple nukes and then some more just to be sure you get 'em down. The USSR's strategy, fyi, was to use multiple and excessive nukes hitting singular military targets with multiple airbursts and then ground strikes a few hours/days later to make sure they are dead dead dead. mutually assured destruction has never meant "humanity goes extinct", it means "we will ensure that both of our countries cease to exist in order to deter a nuclear war from actually happening" Argentum fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Feb 23, 2017 |
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They could do that but it seems a little pointless. It's not like random countries in Africa will have any incentive to invade the nuclear blasted hellscapes of Russia or the US.
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I always figured the American apocalypse is a lot more likely to look like Snow Crash than anything else. You'd end up with a ton of fragmented little enclaves of varying degrees of liberty, a lot of violence where those enclaves meet, islands of relative stability, and a lot of random environmental damage as, without a central federal authority, people go full-blown gently caress You, Got Mine. The mistake "preppers" all seem to make is the seeming assumption they're preparing for a limited nuclear exchange and/or zombies. If you were really serious about all of this, you'd have a tight-knit relationship with your neighbors, a decent knowledge of sustainable agriculture, a home garden, and maybe a stake in an isolated permaculture settlement. Having a lot of emergency supplies on-hand is never exactly a bad idea, but as far as I can tell, the average prepper seems to be under the impression that they'll go to ground for two or five or twenty years, then emerge to be a ruler of the wasteland. It's live-action role-playing in a Mad Max universe.
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Wanderer posted:I always figured the American apocalypse is a lot more likely to look like Snow Crash than anything else. You'd end up with a ton of fragmented little enclaves of varying degrees of liberty, a lot of violence where those enclaves meet, islands of relative stability, and a lot of random environmental damage as, without a central federal authority, people go full-blown gently caress You, Got Mine. agreed. really, if you want to prep for the apocalypse you're much better off moving to some quaint, non-major country in a place that won't be too badly hosed by global warming. american "gently caress you, got mine" mentality is the thing you'd want to be farthest away from if poo poo were to ever hit the fan. having a community you can trust and rely on will take you much father than any bunker-prep will.
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This community can come together in the largest Goonmeet ever seen to survive the desperate days ahead. I volunteer to curate the wiki.
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Baloogan posted:im going to build a massive still in my rural retreat go on and buy some small cappable bottles so you can sell your excess still production, and by "sell" of course I mean trade for virgins and ammo
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Interestingly, I started a thread a few days ago on the exact scenario described in the OP (a Captain Trips situation) and it isn't being threadshitted to hell and back by Avshalom. If you want to discuss the specific apocalypse of "superbug," head on over!
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Peven Stan posted:each mormon household is expected to stock at least a year's worth of food.
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im more worried about like, all the banks stop working for a month than i am a nuclear war h*ck, im more worried about having a flat tire on a poo poo rural road than i am about anything else
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Bates posted:Yeah I don't see why they would care about random smallholder farms. It could get pretty rough in the rural expanses though - the government and military would focus on the major metropolitan areas so that's where there will still be some rule of law and best chance of some basic services. Getting food, power, water, medicine etc. to rural Montana will be the last priority. This is basically the pattern we see in real instances of state collapse and widespread insecurity. When things get bad world people are the first ones abandoned by the government, and are the ones most severely affected by the depredations of anarchy, primarily because they can't defend themselves. Chickens and cattle are absolutely a strategic resource no matter how well prepared an individual families they're not going to have any hope defending them from armies. For example after the Somali government dissolved in 1991 The country underwent a massive increase in urbanization, as agriculturalists and Pastora lists were displaced into Mogadishu, even as the city was racked by violence, because the countryside was even worse. During the 30 years war the previously dispersed rural population wad concentrated into defensible hamlets. Similar patterns emerge from archaeological research and other areas in regions as well, when people feel safe they spread out, when things become insecure violent and dangerous they are drawn together. There is safety in numbers. Of course it's absurd to talk about any of these scenarios in the United States, either in Montana or anywhere else so this whole conversation is kind of ridiculous. Actual outcomes of any calamity are going to depend very much on the specifics of the scenario, so you can't see much outside the broadest generalizations, unless you have a very specific calamity in mind.
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When #45 was elected, I bought a months worth of freeze dried food. I rationalized it by saying I can always use it to go camping, but what I'm actually afraid of is another Katrina if CA gets hit by a big earthquake. I'm sure FEMA is going to be in greeeaaaat shape in this administration, and we will definitely get high priority help what with us being godless liberals who Deserve It and all. Also thinking about getting a gun, as I do have previous experience using them growing up in rural PA. This has been my prepping story.
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Beachcomber posted:When #45 was elected, I bought a months worth of freeze dried food. I rationalized it by saying I can always use it to go camping, but what I'm actually afraid of is another Katrina if CA gets hit by a big earthquake. Assuming you already own a pre-ban legal ar15...
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Wanderer posted:The mistake "preppers" all seem to make is the seeming assumption they're preparing for a limited nuclear exchange and/or zombies. If you were really serious about all of this, you'd have a tight-knit relationship with your neighbors, a decent knowledge of sustainable agriculture, a home garden, and maybe a stake in an isolated permaculture settlement. Having a lot of emergency supplies on-hand is never exactly a bad idea, but as far as I can tell, the average prepper seems to be under the impression that they'll go to ground for two or five or twenty years, then emerge to be a ruler of the wasteland. It's live-action role-playing in a Mad Max universe.
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temple posted:I recently read a prepper board and they already know that. County hicks are more inclusive than you think. They probably already marry into each other's families. Survivalists/Preppers are like a religion and like minded people congregate. It's not enough to have a couple dozen cousins though. Like if you look at Somalia when their government collapsed what filled in the gap? You had warlords with hundreds or l thousand followers who started providing security. The more people you have will work with you the more secure you are. Like when states collapse the first thing to go is long term thinking. No one will care about tax revenue five years in the future when they're starving to death today. Anything of any use right now will be taken and consumed regardless of future consequences.
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Yes, a prepper thread! Glad I'm getting in on the ground level on this. Hi Avs!
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