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Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005

Jamwad Hilder posted:

I think its a bit of a generational thing. Anecdotally, a lot of baby boomers/older folks seem to genuinely believe that America is the best, full stop, and most younger people don't. I'm proud to be American and I'm not going to pretend to be Canadian or something when I travel abroad, but I'm not going to argue with you and act like my country is superior or anything like that.

I think the only time I've been obnoxiously patriotic is during Olympics hockey.


Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Nationalism is everywhere, but no, not in the same way. American triumphalist nationalism really is something else.

E: So, pretty much every country has some (possibly quite silly) ideas about what makes their country special. America just tends to have way more grandiose and absurd about it than everywhere else. (America is the greatest nation to ever exist! [thing that would be completely unremarkable in any wealthy democracy] is uniquely American!)

Yeah I think a lot of that comes from the Cold War era. America GOOD, communism BAD.

Millenials grew up with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and the internet, they're a lot more critical of America in my experience.

It's mostly the older generations that get in a big huff about flags and lapel pins and blind nationalism.

I lived in Europe for six months towards the end of the Bush years (2007) and my impression was most Europeans liked individual Americans and American entertainment but Bush was a shithead.

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