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Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

stone cold posted:

Oh gee I dunno maybe because it was a SCOTUS case that deemed the death penalty unconstitutional on both eighth and fourteenth amendment grounds.


No it didn't. The court found that the current practice of the death penalty violated the 8th because it was too arbitrary. Which is why, when Georgia and several other states came up with policies for the death penalty that didn't violate the 8th, SCOTUS approved them 4 years later.

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Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

stone cold posted:

so again, nuance

Well now that we are paying attention to nuance, can we agree that this:

Stone cold posted:

Oh gee I dunno maybe because it was a SCOTUS case that deemed the death penalty unconstitutional on both eighth and fourteenth amendment grounds.

Isn't correct, and there is a difference between SCOTUS declaring the death penalty unconstitutional, and declaring how the death penalty is currently imposed unconstitutional?

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug
D&D is substantially closer to the former than the latter.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

DC Murderverse posted:

And does that criteria outweigh the potential for error (not just in executing innocents, but also the bias towards executing minorities, men, and poor people)?

But basically everything the justice system does has a bias towards disproportionally hurting those groups.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug

DC Murderverse posted:

It's even more pronounced when you look at people sentenced to death.

https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/857717418738823168

Black people make up 55 percent of people sentenced to death, and 56 percent of people sentenced to life without parole.

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