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hakimashou posted:Why should they remain alive? I'd be totally cool with the death penalty if the law also stipulated that if anyone is later proven innocent than the judge, prosecutor and every member of the jury that convicted the innocent person are executed for murder in turn.
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DoggPickle posted:This is basically the dumbest argument that I've ever read. When people are mean or evil to other people, when they're scary or violent. it's quite obvious, even though it may be difficult to put down in words. Many American Christians would see abortion doctors as horribly evil people who commit murder for a living, and that perspective is quite obvious to them. quote:But absolutely any person who hits another person is a crazy rear end in a top hat and they need some jail. Absolutely any? You support jail time for people who hit someone in self-defense?
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stone cold posted:In my derision, I'm fairly certain my dismissal of absolute guilt as a notion was dismissing it as stupid. Hope this helps, and hope you had the matter clarified via the context clues! You have to use ridiculous hyperbole and sick burns, otherwise how will we know what your position is?
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Feb 28, 2017 06:10
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Ytlaya posted:Death Penalty Agree to disagree. 
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got any sevens posted:Dude it was a hypothetical. I'm against the death penalty in general but it'd be nice if it was possible as a voluntary thing. What if you went crazy or w/e and got a 50+ year sentence for it? Would you really want to be caged up for the rest of your life? Sounds like torture to me. So basically we allow prison rape to become widespread, to coerce convicted people who are vulnerable to rape to kill themselves with the death penalty?
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hakimashou posted:You missed it. This isn't true through. Sometimes a person chooses to murder, never gets caught, then dies of complications from getting too old. The choice to murder cannot also be the choice to be executed unless their correlation is 100%.
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Mar 5, 2017 17:33
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twodot posted:Would you be fine if one of your loved ones was executed for a crime which they did commit? So if someone was the son or daughter of an executed SS officer, and they agreed with the Nuremberg trials, you'd call them a psychopath?
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twodot posted:I missed the counterargument. You said "Nothing can be done for those who are executed", but I don't see any explanation for how "giving money to their family" isn't a thing that can be done for those who are executed. That's doing something for the family of the wrongfully executed person, not for the wrongfully executed person. What about people who had a lovely, abusive family whom they wouldn't want collecting benefits from their unjust execution? Or people who simply have no family?
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Mar 15, 2017 22:55
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twodot posted:It's still doing something for them. Maybe it's not something they like, but I don't see how anyone can declare it's categorically impossible to do something for a dead person. Again, that's for the family, not for the dead person - dead people can't utilize money. Did you know some people don't have a family (Im asking because you ignored that aspect last time)? If a person who doesn't have a family is wrongfully executed, they're just out of luck, too bad for them? Phantom Star fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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twodot posted:No, it's for them. If I do a thing, I get to decide who it is for. If there's no one to give money to, we can plant a tree for them. That's nonsense. If my peace loving, Buddhist monk brother gets killed and I seek revenge, then Im not actually doing it for my brother, Im doing it for myself, despite what I might say or think.
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wateroverfire posted:So I think the companion question to "don't punish people for not paying fines they allegedly can't afford" is "how do you enforce order among people you can't fine" and it's a legitimate question that the advocacy groups you're quoting don't have to address but that society does. Speeding so much will be bad for their gas milage, and since they are poor they will be unable to afford gas before long. Beyond that, some alternative punishments come to mind - for example you could punish with cumulative increases to capital gains taxes, estate taxes, or take away the speeder's eligibility to be named a CEO.
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