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Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

twodot posted:

But it doesn't do that, it just says "Are you willing to double down y/n?". I don't think retributive justice is good, but "Have you considered that retributive justice involves making retributions against people!?" can't be an effective argument.

Like all arguments, the point is not to persuade the other party, but to persuade bystanders. It works because if they double down they and by extension their reasoning look bad.

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Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Hey guys have you heard of Immanuel Kant? No no not the groundbreaking metaphysics, his whacked out anti-consequentialism. Yes I am an undergraduate philosophy major why do you ask?

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

spacetoaster posted:

This. I cannot imagine how we ever got to a point where it's ok to put someone in a cage for 20+ years.

I'm no historian, but was that common (other than for nobles) at any time in history?

Prison was first envisioned as a more humane alternative to other, more physically-oriented punishments ranging from public humiliation to flogging to lethal torture.

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