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Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

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hakimashou posted:

Not if that person is guilty of murder.

Murder is wrongfully depriving someone of his right to live.

A murderer has given up his right to live by murdering someone, and so his executioner isn't 'wrongfully depriving him of his right to live.'

No Hakimashou, human rights are inalienable. The fact that someone infringes the human rights of another person does not revoke their inalienable human rights.

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Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

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You have stolen a loaf of bread. You have therefore forfeited your right to personal property and will now live as a penniless vagrant.

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Dec 3, 2005

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DoggPickle posted:

Can I simultaneously be for total prison reform and also still support the death penalty? Everyone should have much shorter sentences. Three strikes is dumb. We need better policies that try to actually reform people instead of treating them like poo poo until they turn into poo poo. That's just obvious. But can we straight-up kill serial killers and child-molesters. Sure

Why

I mean are these people not human? Have they forfeited their human rights somehow?

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Dec 3, 2005

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stone cold posted:

If you're gonna make a claim like:


You should be able to back it up with evidentiary support, beyond citation of one UK opinion poll. Gimme the data, that's all.

It's obviously false, too, because when you look at France, according to opinion polls, almost two thirds of the population was unfavorable to abolition in 1981, when it was abolished.
(Of course the poll was published in a right-wing newspaper, and I know nothing about its validity, but still).

Interestingly, maybe, support for the death penalty has been rising back up for the last decade or so.

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