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I would do weird things to get a Thema with the ferrari v8
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Speaking of Ferrari: Italian police foil plot to steal Enzo Ferrari's body quote:Police in Nuoro on the island of Sardinia told a news conference they suspected that a gang had planned to demand a ransom from the Ferrari family or company after spiriting away the body. 
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Mar 30, 2017 05:00
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They can rebuild him, they can make him shorter, more grumpy and shouty.
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Mar 30, 2017 13:10
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DoLittle posted:Edit: To continue with the subject of needlessly flamboyant Italian engineering in relatively mundane cars. This sandcast aluminum creation is the standard oil pan of a 60's 1.3 litre family sedan (Alfa Giulia): The best part is the 15 miles of gasket surfaces that are below the oil level on a part that's designed to have a temperature gradient across it. After all it wouldn't be an Alfa if it didn't leak.
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Mar 31, 2017 09:25
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Leaking just lets you know it has oil
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Mar 31, 2017 23:59
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Then there's AR51, 1952-54 military jeep. It has DOHC engine, dry sump lubrication and independent double unequal length wishbone suspension with torsion bar spring. In 1954 Italian military switched a more simple FIAT made jeep. Go figure. The first gen FIAT Campagnola was in production until 1973: 
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Apr 1, 2017 10:21
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DoLittle posted:Then there's AR51, 1952-54 military jeep. Someone found a scenario where changing to Fiat improved reliability lol
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Apr 1, 2017 14:59
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Fiat has always done cheap and simple pretty well.
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Apr 2, 2017 00:10
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Car and Driver did a test of the FIAT 500X: 2017 Fiat 500X The best modern Fiat that isn't a Mazda underneath quote:Overview: Introduced for 2016 as a platform-mate to the Jeep Renegadeand the largest member of the Cinquecento familythe 500X is Fiat Chryslers Italian loafer in the popular class of micro-utes. As with the adorably tiny Jeep, the Fiat crossover comes standard with front-wheel drive and is powered by a turbocharged 1.4-liter inline-four that produces 160 horsepower and 184 lb-ft of torque. The base turbo engine is mated exclusively to a six-speed manual transmission, which means that getting the optional ZF nine-speed automatic also necessitates ordering the naturally aspirated 2.4-liter four-cylinder ($1500) that pumps out 180 horses but just 175 lb-ft of torque. Base models roll on 16-inch steel wheels, but aluminum 16-, 17-, and 18-inchers are available. An all-wheel-drive system can be had only with the 2.4, for an extra $1900. So basically, keep it basic. Good value as a base model, options quickly move it up to competing with substantially better cars. The 2.4L Multiair really seems disappointing, which is unfortunate as the 1.4T is a very sweet little powerplant and a competent big brother would be good to have.
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Apr 12, 2017 05:06
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yeah I have had an extensive sampling of small Euro crossovers and actually the Fiat 500X is hot spicy garbage seriously buy literally ANY OTHER small euro crossover. The Captur, the Cactus, the EcoSport, Mokka, HR-V are all better than the 500X by a long shot.
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Apr 12, 2017 09:24
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The HR-V is really slow. Like REALLY slow. I test drove one this weekend and was amazed at how wheezy and underpowered it was.
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Apr 12, 2017 12:39
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sharkytm posted:The HR-V is really slow. Like REALLY slow. I test drove one this weekend and was amazed at how wheezy and underpowered it was. the 500x is slow, cramped, ugly and poorly made At least with the Honda it's well made and the interior is cleverly designed.
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Apr 12, 2017 12:41
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Oh, I wasn't suggesting that anyone actually BUY the Fiat. I've was just commenting on the HR-V. Now, the CR-V was pretty nice, and the 1.5t is quick and kinda fun to drive. I also wasn't impressed with the RAV 4, the interior was cheap, and it wasn't quick either, although the hybrid was a little better.
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Apr 12, 2017 12:47
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sharkytm posted:The HR-V is really slow. Like REALLY slow. I test drove one this weekend and was amazed at how wheezy and underpowered it was. Imagine a ladder rack on top and extension ladder on it. Now, imagine 300lbs of crap in the back. That is my work HR-V. Probably the only time I'm happy to have a CVT because using WOT for 20 seconds solves the slow problem mostly. Despite that, and the fact I do mostly poorly paved backroads at the high speeds, I get ~32mpg. I love my Mexican built Honda
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Apr 12, 2017 16:16
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I've had my Abarth 500 Cabrio "for sale" for the last 6 months, because I only drive it 5 miles or so per week and my wife thinks it's a waste of money (she has a 500 pop that she hasn't driven in 8 months). I listed it high, and usually ignore people that ask about it, but someone just confirmed that they want to buy it this week and is actually making arrangements to pick it up. poo poo.
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Apr 12, 2017 17:34
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This is kind of a fund top gear segment where they talk a little bit about the Fulvia and a little bit about some other Lancias. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1RKpdFjE4I also prepare to stab yourself in the ear hole because british people can't loving say Lancia good God it's not difficult
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Apr 18, 2017 14:50
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I drove my sister-in-law's Renegade and was blown away at how bad everything was. Gf's Crosstrek seems 5 years newer and somehow a LOT more powerful, despite it having a CVT vs the jeep/fiat's 6spd.
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Apr 18, 2017 17:13
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OK, ladies - here's your big chance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyYMAQVeH8g https://www.hoonigan.com/hooniganswanted Wanna see that car race, regardless of who's driving it. 
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Apr 25, 2017 01:35
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So wtf is a "Hoonigan" supposed to be anyhow? I've seen that sticker on terrible looking trash heaps of cars lately and have no clue.
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Apr 25, 2017 14:23
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slidebite posted:So wtf is a "Hoonigan" supposed to be anyhow? I've seen that sticker on terrible looking trash heaps of cars lately and have no clue. An idiot.
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Apr 25, 2017 14:37
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slidebite posted:So wtf is a "Hoonigan" supposed to be anyhow? I've seen that sticker on terrible looking trash heaps of cars lately and have no clue. Rally racing team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoonigan_Racing_Division Ed: "hoon" is an Australian slang term for a loud, obnoxious, aggressive driver. Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Apr 25, 2017 |
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Apr 25, 2017 14:51
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Long-Range Bull: Driving a 250,000-Mile Lamborghini Murcielago Great story about a Lambo that actually has 250k miles on the clock. Yes, it was expensive as hell to maintain. quote:The biggest single expense is fuel: Because the car averages 10 mpg overall including track use, the cost translates to about $162,000. Crash repairs cost around $115,000, 84 sets of tires have cost $97,400, servicing and engine rebuilds have cost an estimated $64,000, insurance has cost more than $19,000, and everything else, including British road taxes, adds about another $25,000. Thats a total of 498,000, or nearly $640,000. $640,000 is roughly 3x the original selling price. Only $50,000 per year!
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May 1, 2017 18:30
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50k/yr isn't bad for an exotic, especially whilst piling on that many miles.
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May 1, 2017 18:50
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That's an expensive investment.
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May 1, 2017 18:56
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My wife and I decided last night to keep her 500 pop for my daughter who turns 15 next month. It's small, fairly safe, cheap to drive, and is a stick. Perfect first car! I'm going to try to pick up a set of the 1957 edition wheels and wrap it in a similar powder blue to give it a bit more character than just the "red 500" look it has now. It did have an Abarth spoiler on it when we bought it, which seems like an odd thing to have as your only modification. I guess we're staying a two fiat family. 
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May 1, 2017 19:39
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slidebite posted:So wtf is a "Hoonigan" supposed to be anyhow? I've seen that sticker on terrible looking trash heaps of cars lately and have no clue. A word made from the terms "hooligan" and "hoon"
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May 1, 2017 23:22
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Is the 500 actually a bad car? I've seen them locally for $4-5k with like 60k miles and clean. It's stick, it's tiny, perfect to park in city. What am I missing?
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May 3, 2017 14:30
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Blaise posted:Is the 500 actually a bad car? I've seen them locally for $4-5k with like 60k miles and clean. It's stick, it's tiny, perfect to park in city. What am I missing? No, it's not bad at all. People just like to make fun of it because of FIAT's reputation from 30 years ago and Consumer Reports routinely hates all things associated with Chrysler. Its repair record is below average, but not by a lot. If you like the car, the repairs mean nothing. It also tends to be small, cheap stuff that breaks. Basically, it's a car with a distinct personality. If that personality fits you, it will be a great car you'll love. If it doesn't fit, though, you'll hate everything about it. Based on Consumer Reports' own numbers, the TCO for a FIAT 500 is about $6000 per year for the first five years. A Toyota Prius is among the best at $5000, a Mazda3 Hatchback is about $7000. So it's right in there with other small cars. If you like it, buy it and have fun.
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May 3, 2017 14:43
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I think it's fun. I drive a miata, so small is good. I just need something with a hard top that's quiet enough to drive places and not a bright yellow miata with a roll bar and race tires when I meet clients.
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May 3, 2017 14:47
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A used 500 is a great buy. A new 500 is a terrible buy. I decided on a whim to drive my Abarth to work today, which I only do a couple of times per month. Still smiling.
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May 3, 2017 15:12
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Deteriorata posted:No, it's not bad at all. People just like to make fun of it because of FIAT's reputation from 30 years ago and Consumer Reports routinely hates all things associated with Chrysler. Reliability Index in UK has the Fiat 500 at a rating of 71 (which places it at number 78 in the top 100 most reliable cars they have records on), where the average car is at 100 when it comes to reliability. The lower the better. The average 5 year repair cost total (including labor) is 285.62. The company behind reliability index is Warranty Direct, and they use the same data to calculate the cost of buying car warranty from them so they have no interest whatsoever in making a car out to be more reliable than it is.
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May 3, 2017 19:53
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As soon as my wife doesn't need a big car/people carrier I'm getting her a sage green 500. She absolutely loves them both to look at and drive.
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May 3, 2017 20:36
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The Italians have always done small cars well. Still say the original Panda is one of the best.
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There's an Appia on BaT right now, and there's a hell of a lot of old Lancia expertise in the comment thread if you want to learn about bizarre poo poo that nobody cares about. I am curious to see how it ends up price-wise.
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Deteriorata posted:Rally racing team. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoonigan_Racing_Division That crossed with the word "hooligan" E: V I didn't read the whole thread You Am I posted:A word made from the terms "hooligan" and "hoon" Anyone mentioned a maserati biturbo yet? I was thinking about a 2010 alfa romeo 147 which I could probably get for $5k before deciding on a more vintage bmw instead Fo3 fucked around with this message at 17:28 on May 8, 2017 |
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BlackMK4 posted:50k/yr isn't bad for an exotic, especially whilst piling on that many miles. Not to mention it spent most of the time on the track, hence all the tires
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   Decisions, decisions. Rosso, or Stromboli, AWD, or RWD. I've been waiting a long time for a new Alfa. I went into town today with the intention of trading in my Volvo C30 for a new V60 Cross Country, but then I saw that old familiar logo... gently caress it, you only go around once.
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May 13, 2017 21:26
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^ Good decision. All the owners I now have seemed happy with their Giulias. Some have considered "Veloce" seats mandatory, but they can be ordered also for non-Veloce models. Are you in Europe or US?
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May 13, 2017 21:40
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Easily a red one. If you haven't already, look up the Monza Red one as well, it's a really good looking colour if you'd like something a bit deeper. The Veloce seats are really nice as well, so be sure you try them out.
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I'm in the US. Upon further review, I'm going for the Rosso. The Veloce seats are nice, and I love the 5 hole wheels, but this one is priced right, and I just sort of bonded with it.
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