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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition? This poll is closed. |
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| Jeremy Corbyn |
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95 | 18.63% |
| Dennis Skinner |
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53 | 10.39% |
| Angus Robertson |
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20 | 3.92% |
| Tim Farron |
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9 | 1.76% |
| Paul Ukips |
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7 | 1.37% |
| Robot Lenin |
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105 | 20.59% |
| Tony Blair |
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28 | 5.49% |
| Pissflaps |
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193 | 37.84% |
| Total: | 510 votes | ||
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Jose posted:is there any particular reason farage is starting a fight against carswell? It's what he does: he continues to see Ukip as his baby and can't tolerate rival power bases. He's done this repeatedly with individuals who became too prominent in the psrty.
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If someone gets made a peer, how do they pick the "of Such-and-Such" part? Does the person get to pick it themself? Could farage be Baron Farage of Ukip if he wanted?
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Mar 1, 2017 09:34
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Surely a studied expert on UK politics like yourself doesn't need to ask
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baka kaba posted:It's not really the issue is it? It's the tabloid mentality of deflecting onto a scapegoat, like when serious welfare problems are shouted down with TEN-CHILDREN FAMILY GETS MANSION or DISABILITY CHEAT'S SECRET CIRCUS ACT Ah, yes, of course you are right about that. I forgot for a second what the wonderful press is like. There's a lot of horrible poo poo happening and somehow I can see the Daily Mail article: "A PRISONER is living better* than YOU!" *(actually we just made this up)
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jabby posted:Ken Loach has written a good article about why blaming the current state of Labour entirely on Corbyn is a ridiculously simplistic view at best. He talks about how neither of the recent candidates were willing to campaign with Momentum or attend their events, and how the PLP as a whole isn't just rebelling against Corbyn but rebelling against his policies. They refuse to talk about them, refuse to campaign on them, and won't even endorse them in interviews. The party is fundamentally paralysed while we have elected representatives who refuse to represent the membership. Everyone should read this because it shows why it's important to elect a Labour leader who has the confidence of their MPs.
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Namtab posted:Far age didn't get knighted and carswell made fun of him for it. lol i'm sure getting the only MP of the party expelled is a great idea
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Mar 1, 2017 10:07
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Plenty of rumour that carswell is looking at re-defecting (double defecting? un-defecting? refecting?) back to the tories at the moment, but that would serve fartrage better than him, surely?
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Mar 1, 2017 10:15
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carswell 2: defect harder
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Mar 1, 2017 10:31
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Carswell strikes me as one of those clever but naive people. He defected to Ukip on what he considered a genuine point of principle and has spent his time since then in ever increasing dismay and disbelief at the snakepit of poisonous incompetence that he gullibly leapt into.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:07
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can anyone confirm the whereabouts of one-punch hookem
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DesperateDan posted:Plenty of rumour that carswell is looking at re-defecting (double defecting? un-defecting? refecting?) back to the tories at the moment, but that would serve fartrage better than him, surely? I think Carswell is relatively popular on a local level and would retain the seat, especially given the general swing away from UKIP to the Tories as they move further right. Trump's state visit has been postponed by the way.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:26
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Baron Corbyn posted:I think Carswell is relatively popular on a local level When he first defected and won his seat's re-election, BBC went down there to ask locals why they voted for Carswell/UKIP and the response from one local was "because our previous MP was loving useless." Voters are dumb, is what I'm saying.
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Mar 1, 2017 11:36
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Hey everyone, I posted this in the last thread as it was kicking off and some very nice anonymous person donated some money for the cause. I'm raising some money for Asylum Justice by asking people to vote via cash (democracy through transparent payments, not sure what you'd call that?) to kill or save the beard through comments on their donations. It closes at around 16:00 today (when I actually visit my barbers) and currently there's around 4 quid difference between the two so you can really make a difference, plus you know, good cause and all that. So by all means, vote away with the link below: http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/BeardJustice UnquietDream fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 11:37
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Pistol_Pete posted:defected to Ukip [from Tories] doubtful
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Paxman posted:Everyone should read this because it shows why it's important to elect a Labour leader who has the confidence of their MPs. Maybe people would have done if any of the other options had either left wing credentials or actual talent
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Lt. Danger posted:doubtful Hey, nobody said they were good principles.
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Mar 1, 2017 12:15
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reminder that nothing matters
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Mar 1, 2017 12:41
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Paxman posted:Everyone should read this because it shows why it's important to elect a Labour leader who has the confidence of their MPs. Then again it also shows why Labour needs better MPs.
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Mar 1, 2017 12:49
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Blair - who people wanted to vote for - is responsible for people not wanting to vote for Corbyn. I. See. https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/836914493976416256 Pissflaps fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 12:57
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Oh No! This Is Bad For Corbyn! Down With This Sort Of Thing!
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Mar 1, 2017 13:37
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I hope Ken Loach can make a nice film about jeremy corbyn, man of the people
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Mar 1, 2017 13:38
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Yes it is bad for Corbyn that he's an ill-prepared, disorganised fuckwit.
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Mar 1, 2017 13:38
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Pissflaps posted:Yes it is bad for Corbyn that he's an ill-prepared, disorganised fuckwit. Congratulations on being the next leader of the opposition
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Mar 1, 2017 13:40
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Perhaps he had already welcomed him and couldn't be bothered to do it again on what is essentially a 30-minute lunch-time TV programme? Who knows - perhaps he thinks Snell is a oval office?
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Mar 1, 2017 13:43
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He's supposed to welcome him in parliament. But maybe youre right and be couldn't be bothered.
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Mar 1, 2017 13:45
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Wait hold up, who's the oldest MP now? Is it Skinner? Please don't let it be Skinner.
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Mar 1, 2017 13:45
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I think its ken Clarke.
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Pissflaps posted:Blair - who people wanted to vote for - is responsible for people not wanting to vote for Corbyn. https://vine.co/v/ei5DvP3DHpv
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Mar 1, 2017 13:46
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Pissflaps posted:I think its ken Clarke. Yes, Ken Clarke is the new Father of the House.
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Mar 1, 2017 13:47
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https://twitter.com/DavidMapstone/status/836892967239577600
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Mar 1, 2017 13:48
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That video is just spinning for me- hasn't vine shut down? I'm prepared to give him a chance.
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Mar 1, 2017 13:49
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Dennis Skinner is older than Ken Clarke. Ken Clarke is father of the house because he's the longest serving MP. (Technically speaking, Clarke, Skinner and Kaufman all won their seats in the 1970 election but Kaufman was sworn in before Clarke who was sworn in before Skinner)
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Mar 1, 2017 13:50
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Dead Goon posted:Perhaps he had already welcomed him and couldn't be bothered to do it again on what is essentially a 30-minute lunch-time TV programme? Snell certainly got some sort of personal welcome. https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/836222877967994880
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Mar 1, 2017 13:51
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I remember now - isn't there jostling over who gets sworn in first among young new MPs as that'll mean they might be father of the house one day?
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Mar 1, 2017 13:51
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poo poo, it's Skinner then. Don't die on us, old man! You missed your chance with 2016!
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Mar 1, 2017 13:53
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The Lords debates the Article 50 bill again today, with the remaining amendments grouped as such:
The most likely defeat for the Government would be on the rights of EU nationals, but Labour do appear to be pushing a lot on parliamentary scrutiny too. TinTower fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Mar 1, 2017 |
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Mar 1, 2017 14:04
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https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/836841236929654784
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Ooh a new poll https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/836913430988795905
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Mar 1, 2017 14:23
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when is the corbyn relaunch supposed to happen?
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Any Countdown fans here devastated by Ricky Tomlinson's allegations that Richard Whitely worked for MI5 to undermine union activity?
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