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Poll: Who Should Be Leader of HM Most Loyal Opposition?
This poll is closed.
Jeremy Corbyn 95 18.63%
Dennis Skinner 53 10.39%
Angus Robertson 20 3.92%
Tim Farron 9 1.76%
Paul Ukips 7 1.37%
Robot Lenin 105 20.59%
Tony Blair 28 5.49%
Pissflaps 193 37.84%
Total: 510 votes
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jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Are you suggesting an appointed successor rather than one that is voted for by the labour membership?

Of course not. I mean a successor as in one who originates from the same wing of the party and has similar views on the important issues.

Also, McDonnell has a good policy of forcing people earning over 1m to publish their tax returns. Let's see how much attention it gets!

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

Of course not. I mean a successor as in one who originates from the same wing of the party and has similar views on the important issues.

Are you talking about a reduction in the number of nominations required?

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

jabby posted:

Of course not. I mean a successor as in one who originates from the same wing of the party and has similar views on the important issues.

Also, McDonnell has a good policy of forcing people earning over 1m to publish their tax returns. Let's see how much attention it gets!

guardian doesn't seem to say - why the arbitrary cut off at £1M?

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

Are you talking about a reduction in the number of nominations required?

As someone who is so interested in the leadership of the Labour party I refuse to believe you're unaware of the proposed rule change needed to enable a leader from the left of the party to succeed Corbyn.

Cerv posted:

guardian doesn't seem to say - why the arbitrary cut off at £1M?

It's an easy figure to understand, and McDonnell does an awesome Dr Evil impression he's been dying to bust out.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

jabby posted:

As someone who is so interested in the leadership of the Labour party I refuse to believe you're unaware of the proposed rule change needed to enable a leader from the left of the party to succeed Corbyn.

The only rule change I've heard of is the reduction in the percentage of MPs needed to nominate a candidate - are you referring to something else?

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
The mother of a friend of my wife was recently judged fit to work at the age of 62 after a lifetime on sickness benefits for mental health issues and chronic epilepsy.

Last night my wife's friend found her mother dead on the floor, following an epileptic seizure most likely brought on by stress.

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

Whats considered a normal wait to see a GP? I rang earlier today to make an appointment at my surgery and I've been told the next appointment is the 29th - literally 4 weeks away. Is it me or is this a bit long?

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

CptAwesome posted:

Whats considered a normal wait to see a GP? I rang earlier today to make an appointment at my surgery and I've been told the next appointment is the 29th - literally 4 weeks away. Is it me or is this a bit long?

that's insane

I usually spend a few days getting up at 8am and ringing the line until its open for a morning consult, but I live in a ridiculously small cachement area

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


CptAwesome posted:

Whats considered a normal wait to see a GP? I rang earlier today to make an appointment at my surgery and I've been told the next appointment is the 29th - literally 4 weeks away. Is it me or is this a bit long?

I was once told to wait three weeks (for travel vaccines) and ended up just going private instead. If it's something like that then I'd seriously consider it regardless of your views on private healthcare, and if it's not then it might be time to think about switching if that's an option, because uhh that's not reasonable.

VVVVVVV
Eh, it depends. I called to make that vaccination appointment literally the first working morning after I found out I would need it, and was travelling in 19 days while the appointment was 24 days away. I would say that is a bit excessive. You might call it lack of foresight on my part or whatever, but sometimes you just don't know beforehand. Even if it's not technically acute.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Mar 2, 2017

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

CptAwesome posted:

Whats considered a normal wait to see a GP? I rang earlier today to make an appointment at my surgery and I've been told the next appointment is the 29th - literally 4 weeks away. Is it me or is this a bit long?

Depends what you're going for. Anything acute and thats probably excessive. Reviews of chronic conditions, checkups, vaccinations etc. and it's not a big deal. You clearly have a very busy GP though.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

tory-brexit.png

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

jabby posted:

Also, McDonnell has a good policy of forcing people earning over 1m to publish their tax returns.
ok what can we do with this information

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

CptAwesome posted:

Whats considered a normal wait to see a GP? I rang earlier today to make an appointment at my surgery and I've been told the next appointment is the 29th - literally 4 weeks away. Is it me or is this a bit long?

Three weeks at my new surgery, which I raised an eyebrow at. Or you can call at 8am and take pot luck they can find you an appointment on that day.

Pochoclo
Feb 4, 2008

No...
Clapping Larry

jBrereton posted:

ok what can we do with this information

Not much, people only earn that much through capital gains and that means they have lots of wealth around, which means they have good accountants, which means their tax paying is optimised as gently caress and they most likely abuse lots of loopholes. So you don't get much info out of the actual tax returns.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

The mother of a friend of my wife was recently judged fit to work at the age of 62 after a lifetime on sickness benefits for mental health issues and chronic epilepsy.

Last night my wife's friend found her mother dead on the floor, following an epileptic seizure most likely brought on by stress.

I'm sorry to hear that, it's a bit inane coming from a guy on the internet but I hope your wife's friend is ok (obviously as much as can be expected in this situation).

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

jBrereton posted:

ok what can we do with this information

*smokes a turd* why would you want information on rich people that can reveal uncomfortable truths about their lives, that's just like 1984

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


CptAwesome posted:

Whats considered a normal wait to see a GP? I rang earlier today to make an appointment at my surgery and I've been told the next appointment is the 29th - literally 4 weeks away. Is it me or is this a bit long?

For a GP, I'd say anything over 2 weeks was abnormal. And they usually reserve a few appointments if you call up when they open, for emergency appointments.

So if you've not tried that then give it a go.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

*smokes a turd*
Is that what the hip young tory councilors are doing nowadays?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

Is that what the hip young tory councilors are doing nowadays?

Oh he's more than just a failed PPC?

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

*Pulls away from turd-bong momentarily* That is some gooooood poo poo.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Tigey posted:

Can't wait for tomorrow's Daily Mail headline over the Lords vote.

I wonder what depth they will manage to plumb this time

No mention, they do have the Whiteley MI5 story though. The more reliable source of EU outrage has you covered however:

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

Pochoclo posted:

Not much, people only earn that much through capital gains
There are any number of people who get paid over £1m/year without relying on capital gains - most (all?) Premiership footballers, for a start.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Weather: windy

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Disappointing. I saw the front page yesterday and assumed they were towards the end of a Twelve Days of Expressmas thing.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Weather: sunshine and showers

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Picture a tweet of me holding an express saying weather:rain up on a sunny day with the caption fake news

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Namtab posted:

Picture a tweet of me holding an express saying weather:rain up on a sunny day with the caption fake news

lol

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

jBrereton posted:

ok what can we do with this information

Individually? Nothing.

But it puts huge moral pressure on people to pay their taxes. Public figures will be afraid of the media finding out about their aggressive tax avoidance, company bosses will be afraid of their workers finding out, etc. etc. Considering the complexity of tax laws using moral pressure to force people to pay up is a pretty good idea for no real downside.

However as I expected outside of the Guardian article and something in the Belfast Telegraph I can't find any media coverage of this new policy announcement, and I predict Labour MPs aren't going to be shouting it from the rooftops either.

jabby fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Mar 2, 2017

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Jeremy Corbyn
Page Liked · 13 hrs ·

Today, I have written to leaders of European socialist parties to coordinate lobbying, at every level of the EU, for the rights of British citizens abroad and to reaffirm Labour's commitment to the rights of EU residents in the UK.

As socialists, we must stand up for the rights of everybody - we must end the uncertainty and stop our fellow citizens being used as bargaining chips.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


JFairfax posted:

Jeremy Corbyn
Page Liked · 13 hrs ·

Today, I have written to leaders of European socialist parties to coordinate lobbying, at every level of the EU, for the rights of British citizens abroad and to reaffirm Labour's commitment to the rights of EU residents in the UK.

As socialists, we must stand up for the rights of everybody - we must end the uncertainty and stop our fellow citizens being used as bargaining chips.



Jeremy Corbyn, uhh, actually does something kinda good? Still shying away from supporting the amendment in Lords, but at least he does try and put the point across and more importantly at least talks about supra-national cooperation.

I mean really he's just echoing the government's line on the topic, but you can't have everything.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Private Speech posted:

Jeremy Corbyn, uhh, actually does something kinda good? Still shying away from supporting the amendment in Lords, but at least he does try and put the point across and more importantly at least talks about supra-national cooperation.

I mean really he's just echoing the government's line on the topic, but you can't have everything.

?

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/837013077455429632

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.



Well I don't read Corbyn's twitter, or much of any twitter for that matter.

Going by what he said in the quote posted earlier he's still pretty much repeating what the government said. Which honestly if I believed it wouldn't be all that bad either. But then that's the danger of listening to Tories.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

Private Speech posted:

Well I don't read Corbyn's twitter, or much of any twitter for that matter.

Going by what he said in the quote posted earlier he's still pretty much repeating what the government said. Which honestly if I believed it wouldn't be all that bad either. But then that's the danger of listening to Tories.

You weren't clear that Labour supported the amendment?

The amendment which was proposed by Labour and no Labour peer voted against?

It's almost as if Labour didn't grandstand pointlessly against the bill in the commons because the legislative process wasn't actually over yet.

You don't have to be reading his twitter it said in BBC news that it was a Labour amendment.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
The confusion has arisen because while labour may support that amendment and others, their insistence on running a three line whip on the unamended bill indicates that their support for Brexit is greater than their desire for rights for EU citizens.

Maybe a bit of grandstanding would help people understand their muddled position because right now they're nothing to anybody.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
this is definitely bad news for may that lords doesn't get a mention

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Lord of the Llamas posted:

You weren't clear that Labour supported the amendment?

The amendment which was proposed by Labour and no Labour peer voted against?

It's almost as if Labour didn't grandstand pointlessly against the bill in the commons because the legislative process wasn't actually over yet.

You don't have to be reading his twitter it said in BBC news that it was a Labour amendment.

He's still parroting the Tory line in that statement, the one that was posted in this thread. Now to be clear I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with a quid-pro-quo approach, but equally since EU refuses to negotiate on it separately it means no actual guarantees.

I wouldn't put it past Labour to not whip for the amendment if the Tories try to overturn it in commons.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Jose posted:

this is definitely bad news for may that lords doesn't get a mention



what involvement did Whitely have with the Unions?

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



A vowel, a consonant, a vowel, another vowel, a consonant and a final consonant please Carol.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
They misspelled 'payroll' as 'run' for some reason.

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