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CBJSprague24 posted:HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S MARTHA. Well that was unexpected
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howe_sam posted:Well that was unexpected I wondered why there was a long, dramatic stare down the aisle waiting for the cut to commercial before I saw a frail looking woman and it all clicked.
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Mar 22, 2017 03:21
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Tuan wants a dog 
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Mar 22, 2017 03:26
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I'm curious as to how many times THE TECHNIQUE is used between now and the series finale. There's one.
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Mar 22, 2017 03:31
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Phillip still has that ridiculous cowboy hat on
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Mar 22, 2017 03:51
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"You should've asked."? That's the best they could think to come up with? The music callback is nice.
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Mar 22, 2017 03:58
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That was the perfect line to cap the episode.
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Mar 22, 2017 03:59
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CBJSprague24 posted:"You should've asked."? That's the best they could think to come up with? They murder people all the time for less, they hardly need a reason at this point.
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Mar 22, 2017 05:07
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So far I'm very disappointed that this season has yet to introduce Henry's seasonlong arc.
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Mar 22, 2017 06:34
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I'm rooting for Henry to explode into the finale like, "I can hear the kitchen from my bedroom! Why do you think I'm never here!? Ahhhh!"
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Mar 22, 2017 07:21
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I'm worried they're spreading themselves too thin over multiple primary storylines in one season.
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Mar 22, 2017 07:53
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Is this seasons grain plotline rooted in reality in any way? I would think I'd have heard something about it, biological warfare against another countries food supply? Was it rumored to be true in the USSR?
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Mar 22, 2017 08:21
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misdirectomy posted:Is this seasons grain plotline rooted in reality in any way? I would think I'd have heard something about it, biological warfare against another countries food supply? Was it rumored to be true in the USSR? Nothing that corresponds with anything declassified, but in an ironic twist: http://www.graincentral.com/cropping/forces-rally-to-contain-russian-wheat-invader/
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Mar 22, 2017 08:42
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Maybe the twist will be that it's actually the USSR who's trying to sabotage the U.S.'s wheat supply.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:33
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Zero One posted:MARTHA! Glad to see she's doing alright
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Mar 22, 2017 19:55
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Before moving to New Jersey and working as a one legged massage therapist, Svetlana had a budding carrier in Soviet supermarkets, nice. Also, I loved Martha's wtf face as she examines a packet of Russian spice cake.
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Mar 22, 2017 22:25
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CBJSprague24 posted:"You should've asked."? That's the best they could think to come up with? No, that guy was dead the minute he saw Phil and Elizabeth poking around, and they both knew it. That was just Elizabeth trying to work up some negative emotions towards the guy to make it easier for her to kill him. Henry Black posted:Before moving to New Jersey and working as a one legged massage therapist, Svetlana had a budding carrier in Soviet supermarkets, nice. OMG, I never would have figured that one out! I knew she looked familiar!
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Mar 22, 2017 22:29
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Henry Black posted:Also, I loved Martha's wtf face as she examines a packet of Russian spice cake. Reminded me of a story Viktor Belenko (the first pilot who defected with a MiG-25), about how he mistakenly bought and ate cat food at his first supermarket because it resembled food containers he recognized, and merely thought the cats on the label were a 'company mascot' or something. He also thought the supermarket was a CIA prop to convince him how great America was.
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Mar 22, 2017 22:34
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She clearly considered him to be knowingly and willfully complicit in planning the genocide of innocent workers of glorious USSR, she didn't need any more reason to kill him than that. They'll spend a few more episodes chasing down this plot, find out that the US is working on pest-resistant grain to send to the USSR, Elizabeth will come up with some way it's a horrible plot, and Philip will become even more disillusioned with the Rodina. It would be interesting seeing the last four episodes of the series be them back in Mother Russia, realizing what a horrible shithole it is. Last line of the series will be Elizabeth looking at Philip, Kremlin in the background, and saying something like "I want to go home," meaning the US. Or Philip kills Elizabeth when she tries to forcibly take the kids to the USSR.
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Mar 22, 2017 23:22
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TheCenturion posted:She clearly considered him to be knowingly and willfully complicit in planning the genocide of innocent workers of glorious USSR, she didn't need any more reason to kill him than that. You're missing the point here. The reason he died was that he caught them doing spy stuff. He could have told her that he was just the night janitor and he spends his days raising puppies for orphaned children, and they were still going to have to kill him. Yes, as she went through the conversation with him, she purposefully cast him as complicit in trying to starve USSR citizens, but she was doing that as a defense mechanism so it didn't feel as bad as, say, forcing an elderly woman to OD on pills or something.
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Mar 22, 2017 23:30
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It's been discussed before, but if this show doesn't end with Elizabeth's emotionally shattered and utterly crestfallen face watching a TV screen on the morning of December 25th, 1991 while a sad song plays, then the writers have failed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwtdhWltSIg
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Mar 22, 2017 23:33
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I'm just upset at the lame one-liner. "You should've asked", seriously? Why not "you're exterminated" at least/ Most likely though they're just breeding the bugs for the other lab to develop and test pesticides or something like that. BIG HEADLINE posted:Reminded me of a story Viktor Belenko (the first pilot who defected with a MiG-25), about how he mistakenly bought and ate cat food at his first supermarket because it resembled food containers he recognized, and merely thought the cats on the label were a 'company mascot' or something. He also thought the supermarket was a CIA prop to convince him how great America was.  Also check out the IRL version of Svetlana's store: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWTGsUyv8IE
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Mar 22, 2017 23:51
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I was 8 1/2 years old when the USSR officially dissolved, and I had a poo poo ton of relatives from my mother's side who were still living in Romania following the execution of Nicolae Ceaușescu in '89. Following it's collapse, my maternal grandparents paid for several of their close Romanian relatives to visit them here in the States for the first time. I was very young, but I strongly remember meeting them at the airport (they didn't even know me, and yet, they brought me Romanian candy!), and afterwards when they were brought back to my grandparents' place for a huge celebratory dinner, they asked them if they could go to a supermarket. We took them to a Farmer Jack not too far away, and when they walked inside, the sight of grown rear end adults openly weeping into their hands was something that will stick with me forever. It was sad and wonderful at the same time. Gonz fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 22, 2017 23:59
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Hell even my British friend when he was visiting was blown away by the scale of American supermarkets.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Reminded me of a story Viktor Belenko (the first pilot who defected with a MiG-25), about how he mistakenly bought and ate cat food at his first supermarket because it resembled food containers he recognized, and merely thought the cats on the label were a 'company mascot' or something. He also thought the supermarket was a CIA prop to convince him how great America was. Once upon a time, my ex and some of his Post-Soviet friends were drinking and I was feeding the cats. Some Wellness Beef & Salmon canned food, which apparently smelled just like some kind of meat based Soviet babyfood that sent the group into a despairing pit of refugee/immigrant nostalgia.  We still talk about this show nailing so much stuff that us Cold War Kids of the 80s remember from either side of the fen- Iron Curtain... Whatever. mobby_6kl posted:I can see how one might get confused: Exactly.
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Mar 23, 2017 02:50
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But I presume that's a can of pork with the little pig on the label.... so did he think he was buying canned kitten?
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Mar 23, 2017 03:47
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"Wow, this is so good, even a cat would be willing to eat it!" I was actually talking with a Canadian colleague earlier today about the difference in supermarkets between here (US) and there, since we've both spent years across both countries, and even just those two have an astounding national difference in supermarkets. Canada's selection feels anemic by comparison.
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Mar 23, 2017 04:01
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As usual, though - capitalism is always best at lampooning itself: http://www.cracked.com/video_20330_honest-ads-grocery-5Bph5D.html
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Mar 23, 2017 04:04
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Woah, Svetlana from the Sopranos THEN MARTHA!?! (Sorry, just catching up)
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Mar 23, 2017 04:09
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Just caught up. Season is kind of weird so far, especially now that more of the show takes place in Russia. I like Oleg and all but they are going to do that maybe they could lose the color filter? Also is it me or did their disguises get worse? Phil's airline pilot guy seems especially half-assed, and I wasn't impressed with their country routine either.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:01
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The further they get out of their usual territory, the less elaborate the disguises need to be. This is back in the eighties, there wasn't much in the way of "national databases" of suspects. Hell, twenty years later, the FBI was still getting poo poo for poor data warehousing.
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Mar 23, 2017 17:43
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TheCenturion posted:This is back in the eighties, there wasn't much in the way of "national databases" of suspects. sure and that explains Philip just throwing on a cowboy hat in Kentucky, but the airline pilot one barely looks like a real person, like it just looks like a dude with a bad fake mustache, and that one is used close to home
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Mar 23, 2017 17:48
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Earwicker posted:sure and that explains Philip just throwing on a cowboy hat in Kentucky, but the airline pilot one barely looks like a real person, like it just looks like a dude with a bad fake mustache, and that one is used close to home Wait, do we know that? I appreciate show-don't-tell, but that whole plotline came out of nowhere with little to no explanation.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:37
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Earwicker posted:sure and that explains Philip just throwing on a cowboy hat in Kentucky, but the airline pilot one barely looks like a real person, like it just looks like a dude with a bad fake mustache, and that one is used close to home It's the hair color.  The hair doesn't match the side-burns, eyebrows or mustache. Mustache Macro Shot:  His cover ID is an idiot with a bad dye job.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:42
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Propaganda Machine posted:Wait, do we know that? I appreciate show-don't-tell, but that whole plotline came out of nowhere with little to no explanation. yeah your right I guess that could all be happening somewhere else, I just assumed it was still DC area because they don't mention having to travel somewhere and it seemed like they were able to get back to their regular cover lives quickly. but yeah the way it was introduced was pretty jarring
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Mar 23, 2017 18:42
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I can imagine someone thinking, 'The sideburns and eyebrows are a problem... I know, I'll make him an idiot. Bam. Mustache, front and center.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:49
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I think that including some ridiculous feature makes for a pretty good disguise. The witness focuses on the terrible mustache or silly hat, and his description can be made useless seconds after making your escape by ditching the offending item.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:52
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It really sells the hair by being terrible.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:55
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withak posted:I think that including some ridiculous feature makes for a pretty good disguise. The witness focuses on the terrible mustache or silly hat, and his description can be made useless seconds after making your escape by ditching the offending item. makes sense for short jobs like when they went to bug lab, for you'd think for longer term work of creating a persona and developing relationships etc you'd want something that looked a little less ridiculous on the other hand, I do remember that in the 80's and early 90's there really were a lot of legit terrible dye jobs, toupees, and mustaches around. but I think Clark was a better portrayal of the whole bad toupee look
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withak posted:I think that including some ridiculous feature makes for a pretty good disguise. The witness focuses on the terrible mustache or silly hat, and his description can be made useless seconds after making your escape by ditching the offending item. Yeah. One attention-grabbing characteristic tends to make everything else kinda melt out of a person's memory when trying to give a description after the fact. They're not just trying to look different from their normal look and blend in; they're trying to keep the stuff they can't take off forgettable. e: this is also what makes a pilot's/stewardess' uniforms useful
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