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Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Buch is awesome, a bit more playing time should help him get more used to making plays like that on narrower ice.

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Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
He's taking after Torts and getting sick of the 25% rule. Lack made 12 saves and allowed four goals in that game.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
I think the Canes signed Ward to a two-year deal because they knew they had to expose a goalie in the expansion draft, but were expecting Lack to be worth protecting. Probably not a preferred destination for UFAs, either.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Clendening is terrible. I can't wait for Dan Girardi to come back.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Matt Zerella posted:

The fancy stats people think he's great but he stinks

He starts against weaker competition, often in the offensive zone, and has success in the most sheltered minutes. He has offensive skills that are great in a certain role, but he's bad at defending in general. Last night, he deflected the first goal, went into the corner too late to support McDonagh and left a cross-ice pass open for the second goal, and missed a poke check on the third one (goal wasn't his fault, though.)

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
NHL.com article "Who is Reid Duke?"

"He moved ahead of Reid Duke, an "American Magic: The Gathering," player on Google search on Monday."

He's progressing quickly.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Whenever Sedins trade talk comes up, I wonder how they would fit in with the Rangers. They have a ton of experience with AV, and the Rangers are really deep at forward to the point that Grabner has scored 26 goals from the third line without power play time. Could you imagine them playing against a Habs or Sens fourth line? Sedins vs. Burrows or Ott?

Yes, I'll be over here imagining the Sedins cycling the puck in circles around Burrows, like a game of "monkey in the middle."

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Tanner Glass is just about right for a 16th forward. So far he's played hard and sparked the team a bit by being a demo of "how to play hard-nosed hockey" in five minutes a night on "easy" difficulty against the other team's bottom line.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Fast hockey games are the best. There's nothing better than nonstop action, teams going end-to-end, trading chances, and having long stretches of play without stoppage. Hockey is especially better in recent years as goons and grinders have been replaced by guys who used to be "2nd line or bust" - the disposable fourth line is no more, the old "defensive" third line is now the fourth, and teams roll a third line more in line with their top two.

What is bad about hockey are stoppages that interrupt fast play. Offsides reviews that rewind the game on a technicality are terrible. Scrums after big clean hits are also dumb, and it is much better when they're responded to in play and ramp up the intensity of games. Scrums around the net after the goalie covers up in traffic almost up the intensity of the stoppage, but fighting after hip checks is dumb.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Shorthanded chances on power plays are awesome, partly because they're almost always breakaways or odd man rushes.

Hayes+Miller on the PK are super exciting to watch because they score a lot and give up a ton of goals.

Hayes at 4v5: Four goals for, over nine goals against per 60 mins.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php?disp=1&db=201617&sit=4v5&pos=skaters&minutes=1&teamid=20&type=goals&sort=F60&sortdir=DESC

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Levitate posted:

oh god a dan girardi av lol

amazing

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Koopa Kid posted:

Faceoff specialists are overrated because people are really bad at understanding odds/law of large numbers and don't understand the mental bias inherent in anecdotes.

Like, for some reason people actually believe stuff like playing 55% Brian Boyle in over 50% Nazem Kadri will somehow guarantee wins when the difference is almost literally zero over the course of a game. People seriously inflate the difference between good and bad players in the dot, there is a baseline of competence in the NHL and face offs occur in such insignificant quantity on a per-game basis to make the events almost random.

There's a bit more to it than just numbers. The archetypal "veteran center" gains the benefit of a little bit of cheating on faceoffs on things like not putting their stick down all the way, and how they tie guys up off the draw. There are a few little things they do which give them that edge, and they can sometimes leverage it a bit more in key situations. Rangers analysts have covered them pretty in-depth at times, and Dominic Moore explained some video coaching on The AV Squad (MSG's show about the coach.)

In the Kings-Rangers final, there was some ice-level audio with Brian Boyle calling the linesmen out on not making the visiting Richards and Stoll put their sticks down before faceoffs. They didn't do it every time, but once the official started letting it go, those two guys really took advantage of it. Funny to see Boyle on the other side of that "veteran center" thing a few years later.

In the Lightning-Rangers series the next year, Dominic Moore would talk to the officials about the set plays the Lightning were using. There's a funny ice-level audio bit of Moore telling the linesman about how the opposing center would tie him up, then one of the supporting wingers would kick his leg out, then the linesman replying "do you think they practice that?" with Moore assuring him they did. After one more time, the officials had a chat with the Lightning bench during the TV timeout (which was highlighted on a replay) and they stopped running that set play for the rest of that game.

Aside from that, you'll see some veterans just work the official a little bit on things like false starts, going into the circle really slowly or quickly, how far they need to put their stick down as a good faith effort. It's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy because I think once a guy gets that "good ol' veteran faceoff guy" reputation it does buy him some slack from the official.

I understand the idea that "faceoff wins" purely as a stat isn't perfectly indicative of gaining possession, though. I think Tyler Dellow had done some work on that along with zone entries shortly before the Oilers bought his silence? If anyone has any links/references related to this stuff, either fancystats or video, I'd love to see them since I find this little aspect of the game fascinating.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
There are no more rivalries anymore because Habs fans hate Emelin more than Kreider.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
While there's a mystique to the old brawls, the actual hockey play is better. Up until recently, I'd always expect a stoppage of play and a scrum every time there was a crunch along the boards and a roar from the crowd. I really hated that the game stopped for a fight after every good hip check.

You know what rules? A visually impressive big hit when the guy gets up and keeps playing hockey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9i3gBHmxgo

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
The overtime loser point matters more on the level of each game, letting teams go all-out rather than trying to defend. Part of why 3v3 is so great is the situation it always comes in.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

DJExile posted:

NBCSN has flexed the Flyers upcoming loss on Sunday against the Pens, faceoff is now 7PM instead of 12:30 or whatever was originally planned.

Adjust your schedules accordingly.


E: lmao the Sunday 12:30 NBC game is now Minnesota at Detroit.

Due to the scheduling change, the Flyers will not be icing any players born after 1992 in this game.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Kilza posted:

And they locked up last place since they can only get 18 points max.

I mean, jesus. How do you even begin fixing the Avs aside from waiting for the next Crosby/McDavid? Roy fluking that team into a playoff spot in 2013-14 has set them back several years.

It should be interesting to see if they decide to completely blow up the team, or if they decide to sell off a few big assets and reshape as much of the roster as possible.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
Rangers signed Chris Nell, who thank god is a goalie on an ELC and not Chris Neil.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Koopa Kid posted:

The thought occurred to me but I think it's too cynical to assume it was done for gamesmanship, the Sabres were all over the crease and Andersen caught a lot of contact. Just seems crazy to me that the Leafs don't have a team doctor at every game.

I am amazed that every game has concussion spotters, but not a loving doctor to treat a visiting player. :psyduck:

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Duck Rodgers posted:

Pretty much all of Lowry's offense comes from standing in front of the net on the power play. He doesn't generate a lot at even strength. In terms of depth, Andrew Copp is a very similar style of center to Lowry, but has more offensive skill, and is younger. The Jets also have Petan and potentially Roslovic at center for next year. They're a different style than Lowry for sure, but the Jets probably don't need a shut down 3rd line center considering they have 2 very good two-way centers in Little and Scheifele. Plus I think that Armia is the best shut down guy anyway, and could add a lot more offense with someone like Petan or Roslovic.

Lowry is very popular with the fans, coaching staff, and management though, which might make it more likely he's protected.

Lowry is 23, has a cap hit of $1.125m, and is a RFA after next seasons.
Perrault is 29, has a cap hit of $4.125m, and is signed for four more seasons.

They could replace Perrault with a UFA of similar age/cost.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

A Typical Goon posted:

Lowry is a 4th line centre and Perreault is a top line winger, look at how wrong this post is

They both play 16 minutes per night and Perrault is the #6 forward on a team whose next best option is noted fourth line center Adam Lowry.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
I am always amused by how late some of these west coast games end. Sam Rosen, signing off at 1:12am, needed help to remember the names of all the assistant coaches and GMs.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
The only cup Crosby is going to lift this year is ROR's.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

hifi posted:

connor murphy got 3.85x6 in the same kind of deal and it looks like all the comparable contracts are pretty similar. salary increases and term that puts you over 30 but not ancient, and a 3-5MM overall cap hit. I wonder if the subban bridge deal debacle made GMs more open to paying for potential

https://www.capfriendly.com/comparables/connor-murphy-7257

In this case, Zaitsev is already 25 so anything over a year would've brought him to UFA, meaning no bridge deal. I think, once a guy is a full-time, serviceable NHL defenseman, you can pretty much rely on him to stay serviceable through at least age 30.

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Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
We finally get to see how bad each Rangers defenseman is without McDonagh.

Maybe we'll also get a preview of Brady Skjei in the #1 slot, because he's really good.

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