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sublyme posted:This is hardly a spoiler so not tagging. Anyone else think the gas station attendant was made out to look like Trevor Fitzroy? I thought it was supposed to be Quicksilver in the trailers, but then realized I'm an idiot and was thinking of the Avengers version.
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Did they ever indicate that Canada was a better place for mutants anywhere else?
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Mar 5, 2017 20:54
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Panzeh posted:Did they ever indicate that Canada was a better place for mutants anywhere else? But aside from the nurse's video and the radio contact giving them the window of opportunity, not really. it operates on a similar level as Logan's Boat, but instead of peacing out away from civilization, it's getting the gently caress out of a diseased and broken culture One thing that was a nice touch about the Reavers hypocrisy was their reliance on cyberization to both even the odds and remedy their shortcomings. For a bunch of Humanity First shitbags, they sure have no qualms about bolting on parts Ape Agitator posted:Plus, listening to the Rachel and Miles podcast, apparently Canada was a powerhouse nation and doing all kinds of stuff in the X-Men universe. FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Mar 5, 2017 21:02
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Panzeh posted:Did they ever indicate that Canada was a better place for mutants anywhere else? Considering they were living quite comfortably and on a first name basis with the Mexican border guards, I think it's established that anything is better than America for mutants. Plus, listening to the Rachel and Miles podcast, apparently Canada was a powerhouse nation and doing all kinds of stuff in the X-Men universe.
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Mar 5, 2017 21:02
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Panzeh posted:Did they ever indicate that Canada was a better place for mutants anywhere else? On the radio at Eden, the voice on the other side said that all of the kids had been granted "asylum" once they crossed the border. The fact that there's an environment where that is possible indicates that it is.
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Mar 5, 2017 21:10
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DrVenkman posted:It kind of speaks to the approach that Mangold takes as well. You can put it all together: At some point everyone had their limbs intact until they hosed around and genetically engineered killing machines. There's no real reason to elaborate on it beyond that. Same as the 'Westchester incident'. I mean the only real information you get is from a line on the radio. There's a lot of information that just happens in the peripheral. This was a great movie. Like I said it's like Wolverine in a The Wrestler kinda take.
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Mar 5, 2017 21:19
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Fistboy posted:One thing I might have missed? I was sort of hoping from the trailers that the metal limbs weren't a super soldier program, but just the only way they can handle being a team that hunts Logan, so they're gonna need lots of replacement limbs all the time.
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Mar 5, 2017 21:34
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So apparently this movie brought in 85 million this weekend.
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Mar 5, 2017 21:47
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:So apparently this movie brought in 85 million this weekend. Well deserved. This was hands down the best marvel comicbook film ever made, I saw it yesterday and absolutely loved every minute of it. X2 was the best X-Men ensamble movie, but this was a character study and is in alot of ways not a fair comparison; but as far as the marvel standalone movies go, this was the best. It's probably a new gold standard for some of the character movies if it makes enough money, like what Iron Man did to what would become the MCU Avengers setting in terms of style. Hugh Jackman got nominated for an Oscar with Les Miserables, and lost to Daniel Day Lewis in Lincoln (no surprise there since he was pretty much unbeatable). What Jackman brought for Logan was the best preformance of his career, it was intense and emotional from start to finish. I'd be shocked if this didn't atleast earn him another nomination. Same goes for Patrick Stewart and Dafne Keen, hell the acting from the three main characters was fantastic across the board. Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 5, 2017 |
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Mar 5, 2017 21:59
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ruddiger posted:You know Affleck's Batman's going to be an R-rated fuckfest now. Which would be a shame. Batman is kind of tailored for PG13 considering he's all fists and fear. Wolverine has knives in this hands so an R rating feels like a necessity to avoid really glossing over the natural consequence of his design. Although X2 did a fair job of making it clear he was killing a lot of people. Also, once I realized Xavier was senile, him cursing and being disappointed in Logan felt more like he'd lost all pretense of being a patient teacher. So even the R rated language fits indespite the PG13 predecessors.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:00
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Well deserved. Quoted and yes. Jackman and Stewart absolutely killed it. If this movie doesn't get a best actor and supporting actor nod then I don't know what is wrong with this world.
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Mar 5, 2017 22:16
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The Academy doesn't give a poo poo about genre movies, regardless of actual quality. It might get a token technical nom, but that's it. It's a shame, but that's the state of things.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:19
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The Academy doesn't give a poo poo about genre movies, regardless of actual quality. It might get a token technical nom, but that's it. It's a shame, but that's the state of things. Even though Ledger did earn an acting oscar for his Joker, you got a point. However, Logan did everything it could to divorce itself from genre movies like the rest of the comic book stuff. I went to see it with a mixed crowd, some were not big comic book fans and basically unfamiliar with the X-Men films with this being the first one they saw. They all liked it, it really works as a sci-fi western in alot of ways and it didn't take some origin story infodump to make sense of Logans character or even Professor X.
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Mar 5, 2017 23:31
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Loved the movie. The work that Hugh Jackman puts in is way beyond what you'd expect for a superhero movie and seeing Patrick Stewart as a senile, angry and bitter old man is going to hit home for a lot of people. The villains were kind of forgettable but I don't think they were the point of the movie. It was basically a western about a man trying to give a poo poo again and ride out one last time. The only thing I thought was missing was Wolverine getting a hug from Laura. I know it's totally cliche but drat, getting a hug from your child is always awesome  I didn't know there wasn't a post credit scene but I'm glad they didn't put one in. Having another villain pop up or Wolverine claw his way out of that grave would have ruined a lot of the film for me. I'd be happy to see Wolverine on screen again but this was a really good end to a long run. I think Logan is going to basically change how future superhero films are going to go.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:18
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Logan is a lot like Dredd in that it's a kickass movie that tells the story it needs to and doesn't add any fat.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:23
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DrVenkman posted:I'm kind of interested to see what happens from here on out. It seems that Jackman really pushed for this to be his last outing as Wolverine (And he's been talking about that for a while), but the X-MEN continuity is so loving wild that they're bound to try and bring him back somehow. Stewart did say he was done, but then the other day he did namedrop DEADPOOL so who knows. For what it's worth I hope that's it for these characters. They've got a legitimately great grace note to go out on, let McAvoy play Xavier from now on. I'm hoping Jackman will be in Deadpool. As Hugh Jackman. Deadpool drags him into some hosed up situation and gets Jackman killed. Then Cable shows up to fix things.
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Mar 6, 2017 00:44
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Not sure I really give a poo poo, but did Stan Lee do a cameo in this? I went to the bathroom once during the movie, I think it was after they crossed the train tracks, and don't remember seeing him before or after that. Hasn't he made an appearance in pretty much every Marvel movie up to this? Don't get me wrong, I think it would be out of place and completely the wrong tone.
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Mar 6, 2017 01:50
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Stan Lee cameos are the worst. They should be DVD extras, not in the actual movies.
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Edit: Nonsense, but anything more than a second or two is probably too long. Inspector 34 posted:Not sure I really give a poo poo, but did Stan Lee do a cameo in this? I went to the bathroom once during the movie, I think it was after they crossed the train tracks, and don't remember seeing him before or after that. Hasn't he made an appearance in pretty much every Marvel movie up to this? I totally forgot that he did X-Men cameos in some of the movies. He's in every other X-Men movie, X1, X3, Apocalypse, and Deadpool (if you count that as an X-Men movie).
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Mar 6, 2017 01:59
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Stan Lee cameos are old hat by now. Use the Rogue One tech to put uncanny valley Jack Kirby cameos in movies.
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Unless he was one of the immobilized geezers in the casino, no Lee cameo in this that I could see.
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feedmyleg posted:On the radio at Eden, the voice on the other side said that all of the kids had been granted "asylum" once they crossed the border. The fact that there's an environment where that is possible indicates that it is. Given that the Canadian government is granting asylum and the Reavers are ordered that they must not let the kids reach the boarder, I'm assuming an Alpha Flight member is the one on the other end of the radio. Especially since that ties in directly with Wolverine. Really, it seems like the Weapons Plus program got booted out of Canada and the government had a total change of heart like right after Wolverine became Weapon X. Logan seems to imply that they moved almost all of the Weapons Plus operations down to Mexico with full government backing in the future. Nice to see that the wall never gets built though.
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Gyges posted:Logan seems to imply that they moved almost all of the Weapons Plus operations down to Mexico with full government backing in the future. Nice to see that the wall never gets built though. The wall does get built. It's a lovely fence with fortified guard stations. It's what the dipshit frat boys were chanting USA! uSA! At during the limo montage.
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FilthyImp posted:It probably has something to do with the Alkalai Lake disaster in X2, or the Berserker Rage escape in Apocalypse. I thought they had Logan drive them past some protestors or demonstration.
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Mar 6, 2017 02:20
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Gyges posted:I thought they had Logan drive them past some protestors or demonstration. He drove around some Trump bros.
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Mar 6, 2017 02:31
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They drove by a truck that said Border Patrol.
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Sirotan posted:If this really was Hugh Jackman's last time as Wolverine, drat am I going to miss him. Despite being, like, a foot taller than Wolverine should be Jackman has done so well with the role it's hard to imagine replacing him with someone else. Might as well try recasting McKellen's Gandalf while you're at it.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Despite being, like, a foot taller than Wolverine should be Jackman has done so well with the role it's hard to imagine replacing him with someone else. Might as well try recasting McKellen's Gandalf while you're at it. Super agree. Couldn't have turned into better casting. I only wish that Liev Schrieber hadn't been wasted in Wolverine Origins because I though the two of them in the prologue seemed like a perfect frenemy setup for that movie. I read he was in early drafts of this but cut to preserve the post-mutant loneliness and that was a great decision.
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Mar 6, 2017 04:02
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It has been a while since I've felt that adrenaline rush at the theaters. So good! Only quibble was when they met up with the other kids. They sucked, esp the leader dweeb. Hated Donald dying to freaking grass choking him out. Should've just been Logan and Laura dominating.
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Boosh! posted:It has been a while since I've felt that adrenaline rush at the theaters. So good! He didn't die from grass choking him. He died from all the kids powers being used on him, grass just being amongst the most visually distinctive. He was also getting frozen, shocked, and force pushed. I don't remember the other kid's powers who were encircling him.
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Mar 6, 2017 04:18
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Yeah I got that. Just found anytime the other kids were involved it got weak, esp how fantastic every other fight scene was.
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Saw it today. This movie was loving great. What made this so great was that this hardly felt like a superhero movie. No battle to save the world, no city in peril, no outrageous origin story - just a story about a broken, pathetic man finally finding a purpose in his final days. The movie certainly doesn't pull any punches. Seeing Logan as a washed up loser is really not surprising, but I didn't think I would get hit so hard seeing Xavier the way he was. He was such a wise old mentor to his students, with quite possibly the most powerful mind in the world. Now he's a senile, helpless old man, his mighty powers he once saved many lives with is now a dangerous liability. Not only that, but we find out that he killed the students he loved at Westchester not because of an evil villain's influence or as an act of self preservation of some kind, but because he simply lost control of his powers. Professor X was always one of my favorite characters in comic book lore, and seeing him like this was really tough for me personally. Watching him tell the casino patrons "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry" hit me hard. I was glad, however, that he was briefly able to gain just enough control of his powers to guide the loose horses back to safety on the highway and he found a measure of happiness at that family's house before he died. I also loved that this movie granted excellent closure for both Jackman's Wolverine and Stewart's Professor X. There's really no question about their fates, and there was no post credits scene hinting at bringing either of them back in some way. It's somewhat rare for a comic book movie to offer that kind of finality. Alright, with that out of the way, there's a little nitpicky detail I wanted to ask about- In the scene when Logan is having trouble staying awake driving the vehicle, Laura eventually convinces him to lay down and sleep while she takes over driving. In the next moment, Logan wakes up and Laura is shouting at him from atop the mountain at the border of Canada. Did Laura drive all that way on her own? How far away were they? I was under the impression they were a few hundred miles away. Did she not have to stop for gas? Maybe I missed something, but I thought that was a bit sketchy. Inspector 34 posted:Not sure I really give a poo poo, but did Stan Lee do a cameo in this? I went to the bathroom once during the movie, I think it was after they crossed the train tracks, and don't remember seeing him before or after that. Hasn't he made an appearance in pretty much every Marvel movie up to this? For a brief moment I thought he was that doctor. I'm glad he never showed up. Vinny the Shark fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Boosh! posted:It has been a while since I've felt that adrenaline rush at the theaters. So good! I dunno, I kinda liked how the guy who works for a genetic modification program was defeated by nature.
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Panzeh posted:Did they ever indicate that Canada was a better place for mutants anywhere else? I don't think they did and we aren't even sure if the voice on the radio was legit and not just more trouble. From the last scene, it basically looked like the kids were never really going to escape being hunted and that Laura was destined to walk the same life Wolverine did.
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I loved it, but I gotta say the idea that one food company can distribute a mutant cure to the world is kind of insane. I could understand no more mutants in the US, but there are a lot of food cycles that don't touch upon our corn fructose. Minor issue aside, by far the best Marvel movie, and a drat fine film on its own merits. A lot of weight from having two actors play characters over a seventeen year span, and an amazing send off. As soon as I saw the bedroom bathed in light it was a gorgeous cinematic way of saying "Xavier dies here."
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ChuckDeNomolos posted:I was sort of hoping from the trailers that the metal limbs weren't a super soldier program, but just the only way they can handle being a team that hunts Logan, so they're gonna need lots of replacement limbs all the time. It's really just there to homage the Reavers being cyborgs. Pierce calls it an enhancement but really I think it's just there because they're all PMC guys and people in modern wars frequently survive attacks but with amputations. Kegslayer posted:I don't think they did and we aren't even sure if the voice on the radio was legit and not just more trouble. Logan challenges the existence of Eden but he and Charles don't challenge the assertion that Canada is a relative haven. Similarly in the last scene the Pierce yells they have to catch then before the border. mango sentinel fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Crossposting that Logan was amazing. And I cannot say enough good things about Dafne Keen's portrayal of Laura. I'd heard so much rave reviews about her going in and my expectations were still far and beyond blown away. I'm sure it's been hammered down at this point but I just get a huge kick about how this is basically a film about transporting illegal Mexican refugees across America and into Canada. I have several very nitpicky issues. The way that Laura behaved in the first half of the film, particularly at the gas station with the mechanical pony and with the store clerk, and also with the boy whose family they were staying with, kinda gives the impression of her being very non-socialized through her life, making her practically feral or at least very, very unfamiliar with social mores. And that would make sense, given her upbringing in an evil experimental facility. But later on, we meet all the other kids from the exact same facility and they're all just...pretty well-socialized. They're obviously still lab orphans running for their lives, but no one's going around eating rabbits or whatever. That leader kid, the Mr. Robot-looking motherfucker, might as well be college-educated (he also speaks fluent accent-less English?). I suppose this would make sense if Laura had received harsher treatment at the Transigen facility...but frankly that doesn't seem to be the case, going by what little video evidence we had of Laura pretty much spending all her time with the rest of the kids all the time. ...So, really, I guess we should deduce that Laura is just naturally an rear end in a top hat to people! Which...okay, would actually make sense considering she's got Logan's genes  .One other nitpick was when Xavier was going on about how it makes sense that Laura has foot claws because...female lions or...something. Seriously, the poo poo was he babbling about? Sexual dimorphism is a thing, but she-lions don't have...like, extra claws because they need to be more protective or...whatever. The poor prof must have been totally loving addled at this point. 
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Vinny the Shark posted:Saw it today. This movie was loving great. Great review dude. My thoughts exactly.
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Ape Agitator posted:Super agree. Couldn't have turned into better casting. I wonder if young X-24 Logan was intended to be him at one point. With the close cut hair and the darker beard, I almost thought it was him when he first showed up.
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Vinny the Shark posted:Saw it today. This movie was loving great. Sounds like a really hackish combination of sadism and sentimentality. Can't wait to see it tomorrow.
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