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3 days later after seeing this movie. Can't stop thinking about it. This movie set the bar really high for comic book movies.
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The black chubby kid running in the forest made me laugh so hard. He's supposed to be a mutant?
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Mar 6, 2017 12:44
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Rabid Snake posted:The black chubby kid running in the forest made me laugh so hard. fat ppl are mutants dumbass
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Mar 6, 2017 13:29
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fbsw posted:fat ppl are mutants dumbass Your post history is almost as tragic as a chubby kid being a mutant
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Mar 6, 2017 13:43
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Kegslayer posted:I don't think they did and we aren't even sure if the voice on the radio was legit and not just more trouble. I think this is a pretty drat cynical reading. The end of the film had a lot of hope, and all signs pointed to the opposite of your reading. We were given no reason to doubt the radio or Canadian sanctuary. Laura seemed to be set up to be a very different person with a very different future than Logan. While Logan was always running away from everything, Laura runs toward things and takes an active part in her own destiny, rather than Logan's passive reluctant heroism. She WANTS to be a part of her mutant family, opposed to Logan's obligation to Charles. Rabid Snake posted:The black chubby kid running in the forest made me laugh so hard. What is this?
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Mar 6, 2017 13:53
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Rabid Snake posted:Your post history is almost as tragic as a chubby kid being a mutant so not tragic at all dumbass (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 6, 2017 13:53
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The two scenes/shots in the movie that made me laugh were: Logan smashing up his car in an impotent rage after failing to get the words out when eulogizing Charles. The fact that it was shot from the p.o.v. of Laura who was just standing there at the other side of the road watching it all made it all ten times better than it could have been. We could really get a grip on Logans feelings at the time without him saying a single coherent phrase or the director shoving it in our face with tearstained closeups, melodramatic music and all that bullshit. The second was in the opening when Logan took a bullet for his car since he didn't own it and couldn't work in a shot to bits limo, as well as when he got pissed after that one guys shotgun blast hit the door in the same scene. This was certainly the most memorable comic book movie in many, many years. Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Mar 6, 2017 |
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Mar 6, 2017 13:56
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feedmyleg posted:I think this is a pretty drat cynical reading. The end of the film had a lot of hope, and all signs pointed to the opposite of your reading. We were given no reason to doubt the radio or Canadian sanctuary. Laura seemed to be set up to be a very different person with a very different future than Logan. While Logan was always running away from everything, Laura runs toward things and takes an active part in her own destiny, rather than Logan's passive reluctant heroism. She WANTS to be a part of her mutant family, opposed to Logan's obligation to Charles. fbsw posted:so not tragic at all dumbass Hahahahahaha did I strike a cord? Lose weight or be laughed at like the chubby kid edit: I don't know what's worst. Spending  to troll on an account thats less then a week old or putting effort on those posts
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Mar 6, 2017 13:58
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Rabid Snake posted:Towards the end of the movie when all the young mutants are running away, and the chubby kid was singled out on a camera shot. He was as chubby as the goonies kid meirl u be the judge http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view8/20140424/5023487/fat-mystique-o.gif
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Mar 6, 2017 14:12
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MorgaineDax posted:I wonder if young X-24 Logan was intended to be him at one point. With the close cut hair and the darker beard, I almost thought it was him when he first showed up. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Really good movie, great performances all the way around. I was really put off by the Deadpool trailer though. I haven't seen Deadpool, but if his character is like that the entire time I don't think I missed anything. The auto-trucks were a nice touch, I know they're coming and it's a nice little dystopian touch. The farm scenes reminded me of Looper and I could almost see the two movies being in the same universe. They had a very similar tone.
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Mar 6, 2017 15:12
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SimonCat posted:I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that. According to a recent interview with Mangold, Sabertooth was considered for the film, but not in X24's capacity. Rather, Logan was going to recruit him at some point to help, but the concept never made it into a script draft. But I definitely thought that at first too. It's remarkable how similar they looked.
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Mar 6, 2017 15:21
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While they never named it, I always assumed that x-24 was supposed to be the movie version version of Daken.
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Mar 6, 2017 16:29
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I really would have liked it if Sabertooth was in it and also thought the same when X24 showed up. Then again I thought X24 was going to be Omega Red for some reason.
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Mar 6, 2017 16:39
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SimonCat posted:I was really put off by the Deadpool trailer though. I haven't seen Deadpool, but if his character is like that the entire time I don't think I missed anything. He's not. That ad was reminiscent of the ads for the first film that were original bits and not just part of the movie: unrepresentative and awful. The actual movie is good.
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Mar 6, 2017 17:15
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Rabid Snake posted:The black chubby kid running in the forest made me laugh so hard. 
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Mar 6, 2017 17:27
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Loved the film but what did Laura say at the end of the film? Really struggled to understand her then.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:03
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SPM posted:Loved the film but what did Laura say at the end of the film? Really struggled to understand her then. The quote from Shane that we saw earlier.
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Mar 6, 2017 18:09
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There's literally a mutant who has the power of being extremely fat, and they also literally call him the Blob So the requirements for being a mutant aren't really that high
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Mar 6, 2017 18:25
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Blast Fantasto posted:There's literally a mutant who has the power of being extremely fat, and they also literally call him the Blob IIRC the Blob's actual power is that he's literally immovable and almost invulnerable, not merely fat. 
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Mar 6, 2017 19:26
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Blast Fantasto posted:There's literally a mutant who has the power of being extremely fat, and they also literally call him the Blob I've always wanted a comic where it's all about the reject mutants having to save the day. Your mutation is having wheels instead of feet and three spines? Welp, good luck, it's up to you to defeat this world-ending threat!
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Mar 6, 2017 20:22
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feedmyleg posted:I've always wanted a comic where it's all about the reject mutants having to save the day. Your mutation is having wheels instead of feet and three spines? Welp, good luck, it's up to you to defeat this world-ending threat! DC had the Legion of Substitute Heroes and Marvel had the Great Lakes Avengers.
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Mar 6, 2017 20:28
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This was kind of the plot for Spider Man and the X Men.
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Mar 6, 2017 20:32
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feedmyleg posted:I've always wanted a comic where it's all about the reject mutants having to save the day. Your mutation is having wheels instead of feet and three spines? Welp, good luck, it's up to you to defeat this world-ending threat! Grant Morrison went into this a little- there was one character, Beak, who eventually had like heightened agility or somesuch, but for a long time was just a freaky kid who looked like a bird.
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Mar 6, 2017 20:43
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There was also.a recent comic that was called I think Worst X Man where their super power was just to explode that was it once they used it they were dead. It wasn't even a massive explosion either no they'd just die. Also The Great Lakes Avengers were basically all mutants with worthless powers.
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Mar 6, 2017 21:12
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Hollismason posted:Also The Great Lakes Avengers were basically all mutants with worthless powers. I thought they had Squirrel Girl, whose de facto power is "she beats even the most hardcore mightiest villains".
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Mar 6, 2017 21:44
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I thought they had Squirrel Girl, whose de facto power is "she beats even the most hardcore mightiest villains". She left because she was too good for them.
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Mar 6, 2017 21:47
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Hollismason posted:Also The Great Lakes Avengers were basically all mutants with worthless powers. That's not really true though, they're generally pathetic as a team and as individuals, but basically all of them have credible powers that are wayyy more potent than a mutant like Beak.
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Mar 6, 2017 22:10
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Vinny the Shark posted:...but I didn't think I would get hit so hard seeing Xavier the way he was. He was such a wise old mentor to his students, with quite possibly the most powerful mind in the world. Now he's a senile, helpless old man, his mighty powers he once saved many lives with is now a dangerous liability. Not only that, but we find out that he killed the students he loved at Westchester not because of an evil villain's influence or as an act of self preservation of some kind, but because he simply lost control of his powers. Professor X was always one of my favorite characters in comic book lore, and seeing him like this was really tough for me personally. Watching him tell the casino patrons "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry" hit me hard. I was glad, however, that he was briefly able to gain just enough control of his powers to guide the loose horses back to safety on the highway and he found a measure of happiness at that family's house before he died. Everything about Xavier's story was the most  thing ever. He's one of my favorite characters, and seeing him in this story was insanely heartbreaking.To the poster talking about how antisocial Laura was, I suspect she'd be way less well-socialized than even the other kids part of the same program. Most of those kids didn't have combat-applicable skills, so I imagine the Transigen people's intent was to use them as they did Caliban - a strategic non-combat resource for this or that special function. They were dehumanized, but were most useful as passively compliant slaves. Laura is different. She's intended to be this berserker military asset, to drop into a combat zone and kill everything that moves. In that sense, she was probably brutalized regularly, and taught only to fight. X-24 is the abstracted ideal of what Transigen wanted her for, as a mute super-soldier who does what he's told. This could explain away why Laura speaks Spanish and only some English while the others speak American English with no trouble. Maybe while the others spent time interacting with officers and scientists, her only substantive interaction was with nurses like Gabriela. Electricity kid probably studied diagrams and learned nuances of his skills. Laura only had to know where to stab, who to kill, and when to stop.
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Mar 6, 2017 23:14
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Did anyone else find it laughable that of course the black kid gets electricity powers? Is that even meta at this point? I know it was a running thing in comics at one point.
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Mar 6, 2017 23:20
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I haven't stopped thinking about this film since I saw it. I wrote a quick review to get some thoughts out of my system, if anyone's interested. Best movie of 2017 so far?
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Mar 6, 2017 23:51
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You take away the comic book trappings the senile father and son dynamic and how it's acted would be Oscar bait. There's always the Hair & Makeup category!
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Mar 7, 2017 00:34
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feedmyleg posted:I think this is a pretty drat cynical reading. The end of the film had a lot of hope, and all signs pointed to the opposite of your reading. We were given no reason to doubt the radio or Canadian sanctuary. Laura seemed to be set up to be a very different person with a very different future than Logan. While Logan was always running away from everything, Laura runs toward things and takes an active part in her own destiny, rather than Logan's passive reluctant heroism. She WANTS to be a part of her mutant family, opposed to Logan's obligation to Charles. Ending spoilers I don't know. The quote from Shane at the end reinforced the fact that the world had still gone to poo poo. Logan might have cleared this valley free of guns but the wild west stays the same and at the end, we see Laura take up the same code about killing that Logan does. Logan was only running away because he was the one that use to run towards things and if Laura follows that path then presumably everyone she cares about will die too. I've only seen the movie once and don't know much about the comics but I didn't think that Canada was shown to be some kind of superpower or safe haven. All we got was a voice on the radio and the reluctance of American operators to cross the border although they had no problems crossing into Mexico. Even if they get to Canada they're still hosed. They're just a bunch of kids and the evil genetically modified corn company can always just print grow more mutant soldiers while the Canadians might turn out to be another bad end. The kids are basically on their own. There is a glimmer of hope at in the film but I still don't think these kids are going to live happily ever after or find safety in a school for mutants.
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Mar 7, 2017 01:00
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Kegslayer posted:I don't know. The quote from Shane at the end reinforced the fact that the world had still gone to poo poo. Logan might have cleared this valley free of guns but the wild west stays the same and at the end, I don't know if you haven't seen Shane but the ending of the book and the movie is that the peaceful homesteaders are establishing a better "civilization" and working together and that the evil Ryker was loving that all up with greed. Once Ryker is destroyed from top to bottom (Shane kills both his hired muscle and the man himself) it's portrayed as a total triumph of the good. "There's no more guns in the valley" is true - with Shane riding(dying) off, the homesteaders are free. It's supremely hopeful, almost utopian, and there's nothing about "the wild west staying the same". The metaphorical "valley" is free of all that. Edit: if you haven't seen Shane you really need to watch it. Logan reflects it extensively. Megaman's Jockstrap fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Mar 7, 2017 01:21
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Some guy in my theater did a full on guttural "YEEEAAAAHHH!" when Laura blew bad Logan's brains out. It's like, bro, you're American, we get it.
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Mar 7, 2017 01:52
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Kin posted:It's just the same illogical goof for the sake of "graphic head shot" that was in Wolverine origins. It wasn't a surprise. It was telegraphed in Xavier's very first scene when he's having a seizure and won't let himself be injected. Afterwards he says to Logan "I always remember you, but I don't always know it's you" or words to that effect. And that's how he dies: remembering Logan, but not knowing the person he's talking to isn't Logan
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Mar 7, 2017 02:39
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ImpAtom posted:IIRC the Blob's actual power is that he's literally immovable and almost invulnerable, not merely fat. He can control gravity also. Copied from wikia "He could also alter his personal mono-directional gravity field beneath himself to make himself virtually immovable as long as he was in contact with the ground, although an incredible force can uproot him, along with a chunk of whatever he is standing on. The only beings on record to have been able to move the Blob against his wishes are the Hulk, Juggernaut, and Strong Guy (powered-up near his limit by absorbing kinetic energy), although Colossus has managed to lift Dukes by digging underground and raising the piece of earth Dukes stands on, stating this as an exception to his immovability. Magneto once was able to move the Blob by lifting the ground under the Blob's feet via metal pipes. Despite his appearance, the Blob's speed and agility are those of a fairly athletic male of normal stature, a fact which frequently catches his opponents by surprise." Kegslayer posted:
I think you make a good point but you forgot all the bad guys decided they needed to show up to the final battle, even the scientist who has no ability to fight back and even his own father was killed by the man he was going to see or have a chance to see there. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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Mar 7, 2017 02:45
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Tenzarin posted:He can control gravity also. Blob, Hulk, Juggernaut, Colossus... Strong Guy. They kind of ran out of names for big beefy dudes eh?
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Cacator posted:Blob, Hulk, Juggernaut, Colossus... Strong Guy. They kind of ran out of names for big beefy dudes eh? Peter David always was tongue in cheek for better or worse.
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Cacator posted:Blob, Hulk, Juggernaut, Colossus... Strong Guy. They kind of ran out of names for big beefy dudes eh? Wouldn't even known that there was some super hero with that name without wikipedia.   
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Hollismason posted:I really hope that we get a X-Force movie. Not the normal X Force, but the Cyclops approved kill squad of assassins that pre emptively takes out threats to mutants. That'd be a good way to introduce a new Wolvernine.  Needs a R rated murder squad movieGatts posted:I really would have liked it if Sabertooth was in it and also thought the same when X24 showed up. Then again I thought X24 was going to be Omega Red for some reason. Omega Rojo CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 04:52 on Mar 7, 2017 |
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