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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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How's the black and white version? I grabbed it the other day and haven't watched it yet.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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henpod posted:

Very good movie. Awesome to see Charles dropping f-bombs and being a grumpy old dude. Sure, the fights scenes were not that creative, but it's Wolverine, he is an animal and just likes to slash poo poo up, so I forgive that.

The only dumb poo poo was at the end when he was fighting his clone who ultimately killed him. He has like 12 mutant kids just standing there watching, when earlier they were killing dudes with their powers.

Getting "creative" is what caused the problems with the fight scenes in Origins and The Wolverine, too much flipping around and flying through the air. This was perfect, he felt like he was actually trying to kill these guys quickly and efficiently.

As for the end, he and the kids simply were not going to be able to beat the clone, at least not by using their normal powers. Nobody but Laura was really thinking about the bullet at that moment, and the other kids didn't even know about it. So Logan wants them to use whatever time he can waste distracting the clone to try to cross the border. Of course, whether or not a deranged clone would even give a poo poo if they crossed the border is another matter, I imagine it would take a lot of Mounties to take him down. But still, that was what Logan was thinking there, that for them to stay and try to fight would be a death sentence.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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EKDS5k posted:

Couldn't he track them by scent? They'd be fresh, one's even bleeding already, and I could see him running down at least one or two before getting distracted.

Although the clone doesn't heal properly without that green serum. He spent the entire night hanging from a fence without regenerating his missing eye until he got an injection. All Logan has to do is wound him enough to slow him down, and then he won't be chasing anyone.

Regardless of that, Logan may be able to hold him off long enough to save at least some of the kids. If they all just stay there and try to fight together they all may die, which is exactly what would have happened without that Adamantium bullet. The entire reason Logan is there is to sacrifice himself, he took a lethal dose of the healing juice knowing that he was going to trade his life for theirs, all of that is pointless if they just stay and die alongside him.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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BravestOfTheLamps posted:

This also has the effect of completely undermines the movie's mumbling about how violence is bad, since this makes it so affectless and normalized.

I think that's being a bit reductive. Yes, Logan is a superhero movie and Logan cuts through a ton of faceless mooks, but at the same time the movie goes pretty far out of its way to show the effect his violent tendencies can have on the people around him. Like a quarter of the movie is spent on showing you that unambiguously good people can easily get caught up in Logan's poo poo and that no matter how many guys he shreds there will always be innocents he can't shield from the fallout he himself has a hand in creating.

That's why death is a relief for him. He can die knowing that his final act was protecting innocent lives, and now that he's dead he won't have to live to see his efforts backfire on the people he tries to protect the way they have all his life.

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