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FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

I really enjoyed how they set up Laura's sudden talking in Spanish... Xavier was trying to communicate to her in Spanish when she gets to the compound.

It's also really poignant how patient and kind Chuck is towards her, versus how impatient he is towards Logan. Kind of an old man's sad attempt to reclaim what made him great going on there.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 16:26

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FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Tenzarin posted:

Logan working as a taxi driver to treat professor x with Ibuprofen is a major plot point.

That's Caliban switching the bottles to prove that Logan's healing factor isn't working as it should, and that he's experiencing the effects of being Old As gently caress.

It was supposed to be whatever anti-seizure medicine he pays for from the hospital dude.

# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 16:49

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Tenzarin posted:

They always hand him the same blue pills.

Hah. This post is amazing.

Captain Hotbutt posted:

I was weirdly super-duper sad that the farming family got destroyed.

Same. Thematically it was consistent that both Logan and Xavier destroyed their families, that the humble old days were gone, etc etc

# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 18:33

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Kin posted:

You're exaggerating. The whole chance for a future thing could have still happened without the character endings we got.

The problem with that is that it is the whole Western thing the movie's going for.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 03:22

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Just take his line about the comics being stuff that mostly didn't happen and the stuff that did wasn't like that at all and apply a throughline from X1 + The Wolverine + Logan.

The Adamantium bullet from Origins shows up. The Mutant Cure from X3 is probably what they weaponized in the GMO corn.

# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 18:21

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Panzeh posted:

Did they ever indicate that Canada was a better place for mutants anywhere else?

You could probably surmise that they didn't resort to roving bands of human supremacists hunting down their own citizens over there.

But aside from the nurse's video and the radio contact giving them the window of opportunity, not really. it operates on a similar level as Logan's Boat, but instead of peacing out away from civilization, it's getting the gently caress out of a diseased and broken culture

One thing that was a nice touch about the Reavers hypocrisy was their reliance on cyberization to both even the odds and remedy their shortcomings. For a bunch of Humanity First shitbags, they sure have no qualms about bolting on parts

Ape Agitator posted:

Plus, listening to the Rachel and Miles podcast, apparently Canada was a powerhouse nation and doing all kinds of stuff in the X-Men universe.

As I see it, Logan reinterprets the necessity of Mutants for the current era. We accept, more or less, that the original run was a watered down Malcolm X vs MLK ideology thing about the Civil Rights era. The Giant Size X-Men tackle issues of a post CR era (even leaning on punk for a bit) to establish that prejudice is mulitfaceted and not easily extinguished, Singer's X-Men film updated it to be an allegory for gay acceptance, and now Logan creates a comparison between shutting mutants out of society and the damage done when we turn immigrants away.

FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Mar 5, 2017

# ¿ Mar 5, 2017 21:02

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Unless he was one of the immobilized geezers in the casino, no Lee cameo in this that I could see.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2017 02:03

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Gyges posted:

Logan seems to imply that they moved almost all of the Weapons Plus operations down to Mexico with full government backing in the future. Nice to see that the wall never gets built though.

It probably has something to do with the Alkalai Lake disaster in X2, or the Berserker Rage escape in Apocalypse.

The wall does get built. It's a lovely fence with fortified guard stations. It's what the dipshit frat boys were chanting USA! uSA! At during the limo montage.

# ¿ Mar 6, 2017 02:16

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

It's true though, her being a feral child was more interesting than her being just unwilling to speak.

I agree. She's better as an animal than a character / person with motivation.

I feel bad for all you monolingual güeros who couldn't understand what she was ranting about, because her dropping superspeed Spanish at Logan about how all he does is yell at her and be mean and not listen (in response to why she never said anything) is an extremely funny kid thing to do.

# ¿ Mar 9, 2017 15:34

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

CelticPredator posted:

He never became a fully formed hero, and kinda kept being a loner rear end in a top hat guy.

Plus the whole drinking himself to sleep every night, driving a cab, and living an unfulfilled life.

But there's probably a lot of projection going on there on Chuck's part.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2017 00:16

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Erdricks posted:

I don't get the madmax / dystopian future analogies. I mean, they made it quite clear that they are able to farm and harvest food well enough to lace the food supply for an entire country with anti mutant gmos.

I mean, the future certainly sucks for mutants, but things seem quite normal and happy for average white folk who are going to Harrah's and seeing doctors and hiring Logan to drive them around for parties

Well white people with disposable income have it pretty good! Must mean the world is pretty cool!

No I didn't think about brown people when I saw a giant fuckoff wall. Or how they were ripping clonebabies out of Mexican women. Or bother to draw the comparison between brown people and the way that Mutants are treated during the pastoral "Our way of life is dying out" with the farmers.

Honest Thief posted:

I'm saying for all the talk of transcending the super hero genre it just plays right into the western genre instead, and that's disappointing.

Reframing this as a Western, in light of the published character's hard-on for Samurai-esque honor, gives it a nice layer you're ignoring.

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And yes, the ending was weak, especially for Wolverine's character; for all the franchise's history being about the character's suicidal tendencies making the "send-off" the hero's death seemed the lamest way to go.

Dude was literally murdered by the embodiment of his own rage/the government's forced coersion of his anger.

FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Mar 13, 2017

# ¿ Mar 13, 2017 16:37

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Nition posted:

I agree the thing was a bit silly and overdone for a film that was trying so hard to be original and different in terms of superhero films.

The little throwaway scene with the doctor applying Chemical Green to X24 is actually really important, since he speaks to him as a child. That reinforces the whole speech he gives about raising kids to be soldiers and learn to fight being rear end backwards.

So really, the film proposes that Logan choose what aspect of himself will live on through his proxy-progeny: the burdened self-sacrificer or the rage-filled monster.

# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 07:41

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FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Donnerberg posted:

It probably helped your first impression of Deadpool the movie if you knew some Deadpool going in.

All you needed to know was that he was a wise-cracking mercenary. Any more and it became an exercise in spotting which chimichanga Cable Weapon X Easter egg made it in.

# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 05:27

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