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livingfruitvirus posted:They put it up after it's aired on the west coast. Well, that's the theory but frankly a lot of shows randomly decide to wait a few weeks before adding stuff to streaming sites, or to some streaming sites, or skip episodes for a while, and nobody really seems to know why. (It's actually probably an encoding issue on certain services' formats, but nobody ever really comes around afterwards to explain.)
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Season Five Episode Two promo: TFW the only deal with 50 years of fighting is to see everyone you kill as a machine.
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VJeff posted:That's the elephant in the room of this whole thing. No matter how much everybody involved is firing on all cylinders (and it looks like, for all intents and purposes, everybody is), there's always gonna be something missing with Aku. Not to disparage the new guy I'm sure he'll do his best, Mako was just special. PhazonLink posted:Then again, Legend of Korra also had a really good first episode. I was thinking that maybe they made the return a little too dark, and then the scatting robot came on and it was perfect.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:46
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IShallRiseAgain posted:Nope, they were actually robots too. I believe the only human Jack killed in the series was the old viking warrior that was cursed and became a rock monster. this sounds like citation needed. The bounty hunters, not the rock monster.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:15
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Dean of Swing posted:TFW the only deal with 50 years of fighting is to see everyone you kill as a machine. I wonder if Jack will hallucinate and literally see the Daughters of Aku as machines spurting oil instead of blood?
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Mar 12, 2017 20:44
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Vanderdeath posted:Come on, man. It was a Sammy Davis Jr. impersonation through and through.  Yes, you're right.
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Mar 12, 2017 22:55
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drat, that was intense. The leaves in the river, in particular, served as a horribly brilliant visual metaphor. I'm both excited and scared to see what comes later. The fight with Scaramouche was an awesome and fun way to finish this episode, though I feel the Lyndebot was a last hurrah for Samurai Jack's more quirky characters, which is somewhat bittersweet. Then again, the Scotman's supposed to show up later; I'm excited to see what role he'll play.
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Mar 13, 2017 00:39
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:
Gonna guess that this is what's going on. Not gonna spoiler because show aired. Look at the shadow samurai: Multiple weapons, the armor, and what must be The Sword again. The other weapons might be particularly powerful weapons of defeated foes. Jack takes Sammy Diskdrive Jr.'s explosion sword at the end of the episode.
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Mar 13, 2017 01:07
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Jack has a lot of burden on his shoulders. He's the one supposed to save everyone. It's his literal purpose in life since he was a small child, anyone in his shoes would go crazy. E: Something I just noticed: The hallucinated floating corpses in the river are specifically drawn to be both struggling and blind. 
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Mar 13, 2017 01:54
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I wonder if Aku stopped caring about Jack/everything at some point considering Scaramouche was gonna tell him that Jack had lost The Sword like he didn't know previously . The only time we saw him in this episode was in statue form only in the Daughters of Aku Lair. Is he less present than before or was it just because of episode pacing/setting the scene for the new season?
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Mar 13, 2017 04:16
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Bear in the Woods posted:The only time we saw him in this episode was in statue form only in the Daughters of Aku Lair. Is he less present than before or was it just because of episode pacing/setting the scene for the new season? The head Daughter mentioned that if they killed Jack, then maybe Aku would return to them. But then again, he was on the phone later, so who knows what exactly that means.
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Mar 13, 2017 04:33
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Bear in the Woods posted:I wonder if Aku stopped caring about Jack/everything at some point considering Scaramouche was gonna tell him that Jack had lost The Sword like he didn't know previously . I wanted to say that if either Jack or Aku had kinda stopped participating in their mutual rivalry Scaramouch would have been more "You know who I am?" but he actually was. He kept going on about how he's Mr. #1, and talking about Jack's new look. So maybe Jack has really just hosed off to aimless do...stuff. Another thing: Jack's psychosis seemed to get triggered specifically when he ignored the destroyed town. He see it, moves on to the river and get's a face full of leaf zombies, then runs again and get's roasted, finally heading off toward the village. He still has an episode in the town, but you could call that an effect of the guilt from ignoring them initially. Maybe there will have been an incident relating to Jack trying to just focus on returning home and letting something terrible happen. There is so much back story to go through in 10 episodes.
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Jack is stuck between a rock and a hard place, I think. After 50 years, Jack has come to believe all hope is lost. Yet, he's still driven on by his personal demons (  ) to keep existing. He still feels an obligation like before, but he's just too exhausted from the struggle to keep his heart in it.Crazy theory: is the rope thing on Jacks neck when he's fighting the bug bots supposed to represent a noose? It kinda looks like it. (Or is it just to keep the mask secure on his face?) Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Chairman Capone posted:The head Daughter mentioned that if they killed Jack, then maybe Aku would return to them. But then again, he was on the phone later, so who knows what exactly that means. I'm guessing it's more of a crazy cult thing and Aku doesn't know about them at all. Bear in the Woods posted:I wonder if Aku stopped caring about Jack/everything at some point considering Scaramouche was gonna tell him that Jack had lost The Sword like he didn't know previously. That's my theory. I mean, in the original series, Aku's trying to kill Jack just because Jack's gunning for him constantly. Probably over the last 50 years, in the same way that Jack's become world weary, Aku just stopped caring. I mean, in the very first episode, he didn't really try to find the one weapon that could harm him after his resurrection (you'd think that would be a priority) before Jack came along, and Jack was able to waltz right up to Aku's lair. Clearly he still cares a little, since he's still sending mercs like Scaramouche, but Jack's not a priority. Even if he did know Jack had lost the sword, he probably wouldn't show up in person to kill Jack, he's not a proactive guy. Actually, posting that clip reminded me that Aku can see Jack all the time so he would definitely know the sword was gone... if he cared enough to check.
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Oh god yes jack is back. gently caress me what about the guardian, what about all of his friends, when did he lose the sword (and is he still pure of heart enough to use it) Oh man i am psyched. Scaramouche made me feel like im a kid again, baby. And the spectre reminds me of jacks dad in full battle dress. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Mar 13, 2017 05:50
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That was Samurai Jack as hell. I am deeply intrigued as to how he will both snap out of this craziness and get his sword back.
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Crain posted:I wanted to say that if either Jack or Aku had kinda stopped participating in their mutual rivalry Scaramouch would have been more "You know who I am?" but he actually was. In the original seasons, Jack was always torn between two objectives: helping those in need and find a time portal to stop Aku permanently. The problem is his code of honor was so strong he would always sacrifice the chance for the portal to save the weak of the week. Before, he could always brush it off as "oh well, there's surely another one somewhere". After several decades, it doesn't look like he can convince himself with that excuse anymore, AND the helpless are still being terrorized without end. Much like with Jack Bauer and the seemingly endless supply of terrorists, Jack may as well not even bother saving people one week if odds are some other random rear end in a top hat comes in behind him to gently caress them up the next. He's failed both his goals, and he's painfully aware of it, but he's trapped in an undying Sisyphean hell nonetheless. Kerning Chameleon fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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That was way better than I would have expected for a show that's been gone for 13 years. Predictions: - That horseman vision is absolutely a corrupted Jack - Ashi will turn against her cult or team up with Jack when she sees he isn't the evil guy she's been raised to hate
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TwoPair posted:
Yeah, based on your last comment I think it's doubtful that Aku even sent Scaramouche in the first place. He was probably taking initiative and trying to do something he thought would get Aku's favor or something like that. Cause as you said, if Aku was actively pursuing Jack even the slightest bit, he would have known the sword was gone. Another possibility is that he does know, and maybe he's depressed about it. It seems like he'd probably get really bored without a nemesis to constantly mess with.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Holy poo poo, Jack is bugshit insane.
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PhazonLink posted:this sounds like citation needed. quote:One of the big developments here is the idea that Jack is facing flesh-and-blood people instead of robots, mutants, or aliens. Is this meant to be completely new ground for the series? Related to the episode, a linguistic tidbit: Ashi (あし) is one of seven Kunyomi (Japanese) readings of Aku (悪/アク), the Onyomi (Chinese) reading for "Evil". The other Kunyomi readings include Aa (ああ), Warui (わるい), Nikumu (にくむ), Izukuni (いずくに), Izukunzo (いずくんぞ), and Nikui (にくい).
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It's gonna turn out the Scatman was human but Jack just sees every opponent as a cold robit by this point.
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Where do i buy a digital downloadable copy of this? The original Samurai Jack has never been released in my country to this day, and i've been unable to even import it due to region locks. edit: was under the impression this was fully released for some reason, just gonna wait and hope. Tingfinder fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 13, 2017 |
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Mar 13, 2017 12:07
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So Genndy Tartakovsky really liked Mad Max Fury Road huh.
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Tingfinder posted:Where do i buy a digital downloadable copy of this? iTunes has a season pass up, though I dunno if that'll do you any good.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:It's gonna turn out the Scatman was human but Jack just sees every opponent as a cold robit by this point. I had that thought too. His death seemed different and drawn out enough for that to be the case. Anyone remember if any of the robots in the first series had particularly stand out personalities or acknowledged their death in anyway beyond just exploding? On another note: Here's something I noticed on a rewatch that I had missed: The vibration-explosion sword's effect get's magnified with each hit. That's why Scaramouch says "You're dead babe" when he and Jack engaged the second time, when the first just kinda popped to no effect, and the second was like a small bomb. Probably obvious, but I missed it.
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Crain posted:I had that thought too. His death seemed different and drawn out enough for that to be the case. X9 the (un-)retired assassin droid, for one.
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They took the Samurai Jack marathon off of the Adult Swim website. Why not Tim and Eric instead? 
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I liked it. The samurai on horseback that Jack sees in his fever-dream is definitely him if he continues down the dark path he has set for himself but it also looks a bit like Aku....
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Guy Mann posted:So Genndy Tartakovsky really liked Mad Max Fury Road huh.
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I don't know, I don't think the Horseman is Evil Jack. I absolutely agree that it's definitely Jack, but it's in possession of his magic sword. It leads me to believe that the Horseman is Jack Back. A Jack that has the means and determination to see his mission through. Also, and I don't want to sound like an edgy apologist here, we're reminded twice in this episode that there is beauty in the future that is Aku. The innocent aliens at the beginning of the episode, and later Ashi admiring the world outside. Jack might well forced to answer the question if he can really undo the whole of time if he were to return and strike down Aku in his own time. Last, I hadn't read any of The Dark Tower books when the series first started. But now that I have, the parallels really stand out to me. Far-Post Apocalypse, Wandering Stoic Warrior with Magic Weapon, Omnipresent but Nebulous Goal; it's all archetypal, monomyth stuff, but I really dig it.
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Granted, even if he does end up ensuring aliens & co. never come to Earth by killing Aku in his home time, it's still probably a net good, considering Aku likely enslaved or otherwise drove them off from their home worlds... Though I wouldn't be surprised if there is an episode where Jack finds some good extraterrestrials who would've been doomed to even worse death and destruction on their homeworlds if Aku hadn't (inadvertently, of course) intervened.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:I don't know, I don't think the Horseman is Evil Jack. I absolutely agree that it's definitely Jack, but it's in possession of his magic sword. It leads me to believe that the Horseman is Jack Back. Read this as Jack Black. Now I am disappointed this won't be the case. Ra Ra Rasputin posted:It's gonna turn out the Scatman was human but Jack just sees every opponent as a cold robit by this point. This is what I'm thinking too.
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Jack was presumably fighting something in that scene where he lost his sword. If the hallucinatory figure isn't 'potential remorseless-monster Jack', it might be a representation of whatever he's scared to face to go get his sword back. Both scenes had a green tint to them. Or, hell, it might be both. Jack physically fought a future Jack and lost the sword to the only person capable of disarming him: himself. That would be extra-painful for him, because he'd be tortured by the uncertainty of how to avoid that path.
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I'm surprised no-one's connected these two dots. There's a horseman, and there's a Samurai named Jack. Who do we know is a bad dude? That's right Bojack Horseman.
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Megaspel posted:I'm surprised no-one's connected these two dots. There's a horseman, and there's a Samurai named Jack. Who do we know is a bad dude? That's right Bojack Horseman. I suddenly understand everything.
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Looking forward to Mr. Peanutbutter fighting a samurai in the dystopian future.
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There's a clear component of guilt - each hallucination was preceded by a shot of Jack riding away from the rising smoke of Scaramouche's destruction. I don't know if it's Evil Jack, but it's def a part of his subconscious and losing his way.
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I'm coming down on the side of the horseman being a vision of what Jack will become, but not evil. He was having visions of his parents berating him for turning away from his purpose, and the spectre of his future self was silently doing the same thing.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:Last, I hadn't read any of The Dark Tower books when the series first started. But now that I have, the parallels really stand out to me. Far-Post Apocalypse, Wandering Stoic Warrior with Magic Weapon, Omnipresent but Nebulous Goal; it's all archetypal, monomyth stuff, but I really dig it. You should check out frank miller's "Ronin".
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