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Yeah, corporate centrism is very possible election strategy, just ask president Clinton.
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mcmagic posted:In a R+20 district. They literally have nowhere to go electorally but up and Trump is going to be sitting at 40 or lower. That means winning elections. You keep shifting the blame from yourself, onto the voters. Big surprise, that doesn't win you elections.
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Apr 12, 2017 05:35
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But the republicans will have actually tried to do what they want, and then got shot down. Versus the dems, who start from a compromised position, then argue themselves downward.
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Apr 12, 2017 09:29
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Really, there's exactly two reasons to defend dem leadership right now, 1) you're okay with them selling out because you're pro-selling out 2) you've fallen hook, line and sinker for the lie that There Is No Alternative, austerity is the only way, etc. In either case, you should recuse yourself from politics, because you don't have backbone or integrity.
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Apr 12, 2017 09:33
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I don't think dems will change. Not really. Which is why progressive political organization must occur through an independent organizations, built from the ground up to prevent lackeys getting into positions of power. Once they are established, the dems as a party becomes superfluous, and can be dismantled or replaced. The democrat party simply becomes an instrument, a tool, something you pressure to get what you want.
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