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Will Perez force the dems left?
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Yes 33 6.38%
No 343 66.34%
Keith Ellison 54 10.44%
Pete Buttigieg 71 13.73%
Jehmu Green 16 3.09%
Total: 416 votes
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Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Average right-wing people don't care about foreign policy. Calling the left wing "soft on Russia" is just a useful bludgeon to attack politicians they already don't like.

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Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

state sponsors of terrorism. It may be "insulting" to them to acknowledge it, but the fact absolutely remains that they do sponsor terrorist acts across the middle east.
Yeah, the US has never done anything like this

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

You're the one bringing up loving fantastical scenarios! The platform is talking about poo poo like Grand Ayatollah Khomenei getting on TV and saying "we're getting nukes now. Nyah nyah nyah." Not a contrived suspicion or a lie, real tangible proof accepted by the International community. That is the situation they are describing would warrant action, and you seem utterly loving convinced that Iran would do that just for fun and we should ignore it if they do, or that Hillary would invade anyway because of some bullshit reason you pulled outta your rear end (she's totally a hawk, she hates Muslims, she hates America, it's her time of the month, pick one cause they all equally apply).

Hey Fulchrum, are you aware that aggressive invasions of other countries is a severe violation of international law? Just curious as before you seemed to be very concerned about international law as it applies to other countries.

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

Yes, just as I am aware that breaking international nuclear treaties is against international law, as is refusing to cease nuclear development even after being caught flouting restrictions. Funny how everyone ignores that part and think that the Dem platform secretly meant that war with Iran would be declared for literally no reason at all.

Actually, even if Iran broke international treaties and started developing their own nuclear weapons, it would still be illegal to invade them without a security council resolution.

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

Because the UN security Council would totally back Iran if they just went crazy and started developing nukes in complete violation of the treaty they signed with the rest of the world.

Considering France, China, and Russia hold veto power, I doubt it would allow a US invasion

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Fulchrum posted:

Nuke make big boom! There, I put it in terms that you may be able to understand, judging from your question.

Yeah, very simple and easy to understand. So you think the US should give up its nuclear weapons then?

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Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

Fulchrum's an idiot, but to be fair white people are pretty garbage.

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