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icantfindaname posted:so you're saying Hillary keeping Haitian wages from going too high was a good thing? just for the record Fulchrum posted:In that specific situation and under those circumstances for that entirely different nation, yes. 
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Mar 6, 2017 03:14
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Starving for economic growth!
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Mar 6, 2017 18:20
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JC was probably one of the people talking poo poo on Cornel West when Sanders put him on the platform committee.
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Mar 6, 2017 19:12
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This "brietbart" thing you're trying to do is not gonna catch on.
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Mar 6, 2017 21:30
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Who is the atomic clock in this scenario?
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Mar 6, 2017 21:36
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Vote and organize local democrats and draw in a big hairy dick at the national level.
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Condiv posted:it serves as a constant reminder of what a poo poo candidate she was Holy poo poo Hillary got owned in the debates didn't she?? Is there an entire gender swapped debate posted somewhere?
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Mar 20, 2017 14:39
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It kinda is what corruption means though. It's just not illegal corruption.
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Mar 20, 2017 14:46
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Her daughter getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do nothing by a major news corporation should have put her in hot water. Same with the Saudi donations to the Clinton Foundation.
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It would be a scandal if we lived in a civilized country.
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JeffersonClay posted:I expect Ellison supporters to listen to ellison or at minimum admit that their support had nothing to do with his ideas. My support of Ellison had almost nothing to do with his "ideas." It had much more to do with who he would owe his job to. You know, the way politics actually works?
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Mar 21, 2017 05:46
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TyrantWD posted:The fact that someone like Feingold lost, and by a larger amount than Hillary lost by in Wisconsin shows you how far right/left the country really is. Anyone who thinks Democrats lost because the party was too centrist, and a true liberal would have cleaned house needs to look at the Wisconsin senate race and see how nonsense that idea is. The general election is largely a referendum on the presidential race and Hillary campaigned to win the votes of moderate republicans. These moderate republicans voted for her out of fear of Dangerous Donald and voted straight ticket (R) otherwise because they are still moderate republicans. The democratic base stayed home because they didn't give a poo poo about Hillary.
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Fulchrum posted:People that the Dems need to demonize according to leftists - the rich, lobbyist, Wall Street. Ftfy
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He shouldn't be "demonized." I think he was wrong in backing Hillary.
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Mar 23, 2017 06:14
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You think the GOP would go to bat for Oprah and this would be a major flaw in the strategy? Are you serious?
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Mar 23, 2017 06:22
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"Hey, Waltons, gently caress you, you're atrocious human beings." That would make Americans like Democrats.
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Mar 23, 2017 06:29
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"Hey, insurance companies, gently caress YOU. We are going to bust your asses."
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Mar 23, 2017 06:31
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It doesn't matter if the GOP has failed to demonize the poor among the poor. We wouldn't need to demonize the billionaires among the billionaires. They are already extremely class conscious anyhow.
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The Dems could never profit from denouncing billionaires because voters love comic book heroes.
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Mar 23, 2017 07:00
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Personally attacking Oprah is not the logical extension of demonizing billionaires.
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The people who envy the rich or wish to be like them are absolutely susceptible to anti-billionaire propaganda. I doubt many people respect billionaires or would be particularly alienated if the Democrats start denouncing them as a class for letting the country get this bad.
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Attack the Billionaires. Demonize them. Make the voters hate them and make the GOP choose a side.
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Fulchrum posted:So what you're saying is that messaging was the problem. The messaging is the platform.
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Mar 24, 2017 14:14
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Americans would gobble that poo poo up. They just don't realize yet how much they hate billionaires because nobody in politics or media is brave enough to denounce them. Nobody except the most popular politician in America.
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NancyP oughta hold a press conference to denounce Elon Musk as little homie gay-rear end
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Mar 24, 2017 14:29
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If the democrats really want to save their party they'll have to play the dirtiest most underhanded card that exists. A card that hasn't been played in modern American history. The democrats should introduce class consciousness into the American proletariate.
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Mar 24, 2017 14:33
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In 2014, Americans rejected milquetoast centrist liberalism.
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"Billionaires like the Charles and David Koch want to privatize your social security so they can make another billion or two gambling with your retirement"
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Billionaires in the medical insurance industry want to make sure they stay rich off of American's medical bills.
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Fulchrum posted:Meanwhile, non-billionaires like Paul Ryan and Marci Rubio both totally oppose them doing this. Oh, wait. They are stooges who work for the billionaires. Attacking them for being republicans is RETARDED. Like half of America is a republican. Nobody gives a poo poo about it and nobody wants to hear one political party denounce the other.
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There is a thread that runs through almost every single one of the GOP's policies that is in some way opposed to the interests of their middle-class base. Cui bono?
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Fulchrum posted:You guys, it's no use, the Republican party is already too popular, we can never beat them or change anyone's minds despite the heinous poo poo they do. - a really smart centrist democrat
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Fulchrum posted:Alright dumbfuck, I'll indulge you. The Billionaires use these issues to get votes for the stooges who serve them.
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AH! A talking corn!
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Imagine believing for one second that Bush wouldn't go to war after getting his AUMF.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Why wait 5 months when Afghanistan took 3 weeks, then? So we can have this exact conversation a decade and a half later.
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Like I said: it was just to give Bush 43 the tiniest bit of plausible deniability so bad-faith historians can make their cases.
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And it [JC's anti-Trump thread] completely ignores the fact that Democrats are to close to Wall Street to even participate in such clearly advantageous political theater. That's why this thread is more important for the time being. The DNC can't implement a proper anti-Trump strategy without making serious changes itself. E: The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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KomradeX posted:Is that thread even still active I don't think I've read it out seen it I the first page in a few days Effectronica drove it to suicide.
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