Condiv posted:

so it's ok he bullshitted us because it was in the platform and he didn't mention it much on the campaign trail? and you want us to believe hillary was gonna do anything for us? all the minimal economic and racial justice poo poo she promised was in her platform, and she didn't mention it much on the campaign trail.

it's no wonder dems are bleeding support when they think lying to their constituents is cool and good

Kilroy posted:

Aren't you the fucker who gets all in a huff whenever anyone accuses Hillary of not being a strong enough proponent of her own platform?

But yeah, we're all naive idiots for thinking Obama actually meant it when he included a public option on his website in 2008 (and mentioned it in the debates, as well).

parallelodad posted:

All of that was in Sanders platform as well and he spoke about it in literally every speech after he messed up at NetRoots and immediately course corrected.

Majorian posted:

Oh FFS. Ta-Nehisi Coates doesn't know the oppression of the system?

Not a Step posted:

He voted for him in the primary

Majorian posted:

A quiet one, but yes.

Majorian posted:

I think his stated logic was closer to, "Sanders has a racial blind spot, but he's trying, and he's more loudly in favor of strengthening social welfare and helping poor people." Here's part of the transcript:

Frijolero posted:

Bernie was campaigning in Atlanta a year ago and just this January he was back in Atlanta participating in several events talking about MLK and progressive policies. And that's just one example.

steinrokkan posted:

Remember when Hillarites called Bernie racist / classist for accepting small contributions (which is apparently a scam / theft from the most vulnerable). They are so utterly terrified of their one safe voting block making a single step out of sync with their centrist candidates that they would not only deny them agency in general, they would also deny them the right to use their political rights to sponsor the wrong politician.

Condiv posted:

and hillary's campaign wasn't a scam? i mean it seems your definition of scam is a little loose if you think appealing for donations in a losing campaign is a scam

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Remember when you wrote that you wanted poor rural people of color to die because they weren't city dwellers

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Frijolero posted:

What is your point?

Specifically, but also generally. Like why have the majority of your posts have been milquetoast passive aggressive anti-bernie posts?

Condiv posted:

almost certainly

from goldman sachs

Frijolero posted:

Bernie continued the momentum after his loss with a bunch of campaigning for Hillary, DAPL protests, Our Revolution, making GBS threads on Trump, and countless demonstrations with laborers across the states.

Frijolero posted:

Travel costs money pops.

COMRADES posted:

Also politicians can't take money donated for a political campaign and just keep it after the campaign is over you dolts.

Frijolero posted:

Democrats have sucked before Bernie and they're going to suck after Bernie.

A lot of moderates associate Bernie with increasing critiques of the party, but Nader, Kucinich, Dodd, Biden, Warren and others have been doing it for a long time.


New Democrats ruined the party and ruined the future of millions of working class people. That's a legacy that's going to stick around for a while. Progressives are trying to change that, but they can't do it if they keep getting shat on by moderate pansies.

COMRADES posted:

It is literally illegal but okay.

quote:

A Democratic state assemblyman and a former Los Angeles planning commissioner were running ahead in a wide-open congressional primary here Tuesday, routing several contenders aligned with the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party.

Though the race for state Attorney General Xavier Becerra’s former House seat remained undecided early Wednesday, Jimmy Gomez, a state assemblyman backed by establishment Democrats, had secured a spot in the June runoff with 28 percent of the vote, according to the Associated Press.

Rival Democrat Robert Lee Ahn, who startled observers with his sizable fundraising and inroads with the district’s Korean American community, was running a solid second, 9 percentage points behind Gomez.

The election — the nation’s first congressional contest since President Donald Trump’s inauguration — was once viewed as an early test of the Democratic Party’s base ahead of congressional elections in 2018. But in a district that Sanders narrowly carried last year, Arturo Carmona, a deputy in Sanders’ presidential campaign, and Wendy Carrillo, a progressive activist, were drawing only 5 percent each as of Wednesday morning.

Majorian posted:

Not something that anybody claimed.

Also it helps to have the state Democratic Party's support.

e: Also also it doesn't sound like Gomez is exactly a centrist.

So...what exactly were you trying to prove here, WJ?

Majorian posted:

Well, I'm sure people that dumb do exist, but I don't think too many of them are here. This is not the Boxer Rebellion; we're not expecting to be made invincible just from feeling the Bern. Adopting a left-populist economic message will not work 100% percent of the time, and even then, it will take more strategy than just chanting "down with the 1%" or whatever. I don't think that anybody here has claimed that left-populism will be a silver bullet - just a necessary part of the equation. The reason why we are so emphatic about it, is because there is so much inertia against it among centrist Democrats, and particularly the party leadership.

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

It's valid for the right because it's a loving true thing that happened. Her husband and the democratic congress gutted welfare for the extremely poor with lifetime limits and work requirements.

frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:

lol yeah because Abuela "single payer will never ever happen" Sachs was really going to stack some folks that would get it done.