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Party Plane Jones posted:That's one fine looking piece of pizza. Just found out the sun is going supernova to subvert my great great healthcare plan that would help America bigly. This is a new low. Sad!
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otoh people surviving medical emergencies is clearly not one of the current administration's priorities, so now's the time to change the rules!
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Mar 10, 2017 21:52
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Voyager I posted:In a better world, Paul Ryan would be dragged into the streets and hung from a lamppost. He's literally Marie Antoinette
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Mar 12, 2017 20:08
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Ze Pollack posted:Surprised they could find that much in Medicaid to cut, tbh. Not that surprising when you consider the GOP doesn't care about poor, old, or disabled people whom are the only ones using Medicaid. I'm more surprised they only cut 25%.
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Mar 13, 2017 21:36
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Lote posted:This is measuring cost of medical insurance? That's a "net premium paid", so yes. The CBO (page 34) shows a 21 year old making 26.5k has current: 5100 premium, gets 3400 credit, thus is paying 1700 for insurance. AHCA: 3900 premium, gets 2450 credit, thus is paying 1450 for insurance. The 64 year old has a 15.3k premium now with 13.6k credit, vs 19.5k premium under AHCA, with a 4900 credit.
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Mar 13, 2017 22:29
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call to action posted:This is such horseshit, we pay so much more for healthcare in per capita dollars both publicly and privately than any other country and yet, for some reason, "the amount of money we pay today can't fund UHC". Horseshit, bullshit, nonsense. We can't do it without putting the senators' leash holders out of business, so they need an excuse. Some combination of "we can't afford it" and "OMG SOCIALISM" has pretty much gotten the plebs on board
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Mar 20, 2017 21:00
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Republicans continuing their dedication to loving children
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Mar 23, 2017 00:59
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Rhesus Pieces posted:What am I missing here? That the entire point of the healthcare industry is to take your money and give it to millionaire ceos, shareholders, and lawmakers, and whatever paltry sum is left occasionally give out as bonuses
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Mar 23, 2017 02:06
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empty whippet box posted:Uh they're 100% willing to make sure that literally only the very, very richest people can get healthcare of any kind at all. Paul Ryan would vastly prefer it if everyone who made less than 1 million dollars a year was banned from eating anything but gruel while sleeping on stone slabs without sheets or pillows, and he'd make helping them in any way illegal if he could. Yeah, remember this is the guy quoted as saying that he's been dreaming of depriving poor people of insurance since college
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Mar 23, 2017 09:52
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They shouldn't be allowed to reschedule votes, that'd make the whole political process better
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Mar 23, 2017 18:19
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No, I think they're still trying to convince poor people that the piss that is trickling down is somehow good
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Mar 24, 2017 19:43
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Monkey Fracas posted:So if they vote and it's essentially doomed to fail who but the most deranged right-wing lunatic in the safest, reddest district would actually vote for this death sentence? Everyone that believes that Trump is honest in his "if you vote no, you'll get nothing and like it!" announcement on health care reform
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Mar 24, 2017 20:27
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mastershakeman posted:I hope Paul Ryans next plan is to undo the delay on the Cadillac tax and allow everyone to behold ACA's true form and despair Yeah, that'll be sad. I currently pay exactly $0 for my company health care, I can't imagine that continues after the Cadillac tax
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Mar 25, 2017 01:34
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It's probably because the rest of the world isn't run by fanatic billionaire capitalists
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Mar 25, 2017 05:14
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Mooseontheloose posted:Watching the Republicans ineptly waste their chance seems to be working for them. *Dems look on smugly as they lose control of all three branches of government*
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Mar 26, 2017 19:37
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Lockback posted:This is very bad. The cost of premiums will only rise faster if healthy people are not on the mandate. Having the law and lax enforcement is better than no law at all, but this is a pretty crucial part of keeping pre-existing condition support. I know right, it's like the current administration is trying to sabotage healthcare or something
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Mar 29, 2017 19:51
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Pollyanna posted:ExpressScripts is a joke and a total ripoff. My workplace has it and I might as well not have insurance for my medicines. Express scripts notwithstanding, epipen prices skyrocketed (due to bribing express scripts) http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/03/mylan-hit-with-racketeering-suit-over-big-price-hikes-of-epipen.html Hopefully this goes somewhere because the equivalent medicine in the civilized world costs like $5
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/04/us/politics/house-vote-republican-health-care-bill.html Vote going on now. 2 Democrats voted yes, so it'll likely pass. e: down to 1, so the live tracking is a little off clearly Azhais fucked around with this message at 19:18 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 19:16
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oldskool posted:I'm sure singing Sha Na Na as a bill that kills people passes will be fine. Nobody in the GOP will twist this. It's not like the bulk of the people that vote Republican and will be affected by the bill changes seem to care at all. What are they going to do, vote Democrat, like some sort of Godless heathen?
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May 4, 2017 19:38
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Typo posted:if it passes the senate yeah ppl will care cuz there will be trump voters dying on tv to curable diseases and poo poo and that makes republicans look bad I'm sure the 5% of voters that don't just look for the (R) or (D) will be very inspired to change their votes
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May 4, 2017 19:54
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BarbarianElephant posted:Their dying words will be "But her emails"
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May 4, 2017 19:56
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bawfuls posted:So is this shitheap going to pass the Senate or what? Probably not as is, but with Republicans in control of both groups some form of it is fairly inevitable
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Yug posted:How does this bill affect hospital systems? This is our 2019 hospital system 
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May 5, 2017 04:28
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Someone needs to lock McConnell (and preferably most other Republicans) in
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Jun 14, 2017 07:51
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MrBigglesworth posted:It really is named the "Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017" It's just mind games, like calling the least patriotic bill ever the "Patriot act". "They voted against
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Jun 22, 2017 17:07
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Voting for a bill this unpopular would be instant political suicide if the GOP still believed the opinion of the electorate mattered. What are those people going to do, vote Democrat? Like some sort of Liberal pussy? Come election time most of them will go "Oh, you." and vote for the R anyway. Best case they vote in a different republican, but it's not like the warm body makes much of a difference in politics these days, you vote the party line on big things or you don't get money.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:59
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm talking about the vast empty swaths of this country that are majority republican. There are not enough people in the area refusing to vote to outweigh their influence. They have an effective stranglehold on the nation. Getting another million bums in new york to tally up D isn't going to matter in Montana where the majority of the populace is voting republican anyways. Montana has like 9 people living in it so that's a bad example. We only had 58% voter turnout in 2016. That other 42% could make a difference if they wanted to (by voting Republican)
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Jun 23, 2017 18:43
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PerniciousKnid posted:I think it's unfortunate it doesn't explain what the short and long term funds are or what the impact would be. Yeah, that's a literal "what it does" not "why it's probably bad". Showing that to your average anti-obamacarer would probably end up with them feeling better about the bill "That's exactly what they said they'd do!"
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Jun 23, 2017 21:26
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The Phlegmatist posted:
If they're going to round they should do it better, it's hard to take their chart seriously when 26 + 1 = 28
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Jun 26, 2017 22:54
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evilweasel posted:That happens all the time when you round correctly. I.e. 26.4 + 1.4 = 27.8, and rounds to 26 + 1 = 28. Numbers on a chart like this one will frequently have their sums off from the sum of the rounded components due to rounding and if there aren't cases like that something's up. Yeah, but it's one of those things that immediately lends itself to "Why should I take their estimates seriously when they can't even add to 50?!"
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Jun 26, 2017 22:59
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twodot posted:I can't tell, are you presenting an argument that you personally think is reasonable, or are you predicting that idiots will care about idiot things, and saying it's important to keep the idiots on board? The latter. Even going to a single decimal place would make it look better
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Jun 26, 2017 23:44
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Zikan posted:https://twitter.com/jakesherman/status/879759025151377411 They shouldn't be allowed to delay. Force em to fillibuster their own bill til the recess
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Jun 27, 2017 19:15
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:This talking point "We have the best healthcare system because everyone comes here for healthcare!" needs to be destroyed. We have the best healthcare money can buy. As long as you've got the money.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:53
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Clickhole getting in on the action http://www.clickhole.com/article/beautiful-when-7-year-old-boy-could-no-longer-affo-6296
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Jun 29, 2017 20:01
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The Maroon Hawk posted:God drat, this better get some loving traction. That is straight-up evil. Sorry, they're too busy talking about Trump tweeting a badly photoshopped wrestling match against CNN
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Jul 4, 2017 09:13
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Noctone posted:That's still a dogshit plan though Yeah, the vast majority of people in the situation she describes couldn't float the bill that long. Unless they schedule all their surgeries in the first week of April they'd be in collections and bankrupt long before the tax man could save them
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Jul 14, 2017 19:24
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BlueBlazer posted:Either McCain pulls through and has s change of heart after this realizing humans need medical care, dies and there is a referendum on healthcare in AZ, or he lives and votes to kill poor people. I'd rather #3 not happen . Isn't #2 more like "dies and the governor appoints a yes man"?
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Jul 17, 2017 23:38
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The Phlegmatist posted:Becoming the moral arbiter of who deserves to live and who deserves to die based on your own personal political views is actually pretty loving gross. Actually McCain is a Christian who believes that everything that happens is part of God's plan. So who are we to say that it is not moral and right to applaud the trial that God has laid before McCain? Truly in this time of crisis it would be wrong of us to not take this opportunity to celebrate the mystery of faith.
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Jul 20, 2017 19:10
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https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/889602204826562564
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http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40719743 At least there's some good news about healthcare today
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