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Bizarro Watt posted:Chaffetz sounds like your run of the mill Reddit troll. It's CoonTown.
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So when this bill fails miserably tomorrow who gets thrown under the bus first?
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Mar 22, 2017 20:39
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CNN is reporting that Trump is now making personal phone calls to representatives pleading that they vote yes. I wouldn't imagine he'd be doing that if they weren't terribly desperate. Especially considering it's more likely to backfire on him and inspire more 'No' votes.
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Mar 23, 2017 01:03
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So is there an updated count of No and Leaning No votes? Edit: haha great timing. So how many Nos are coming from the Freedom Caucus?
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Mar 23, 2017 15:18
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evilweasel posted:Nothing dies today. Plus we don't even know what bill is getting voted on today! They repealed the rule preventing them from putting a bill on the floor and voting on it the same day! Doesn't that make it more likely that the No votes will stay No since they can't be sure that they got any changes they wanted?
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Mar 23, 2017 15:21
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Trump is going to fall on his face so hard if everything hinges on his "deal making skills."
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Mar 23, 2017 15:29
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evilweasel posted:repealing the EHB will get the freedom caucus on boa... Does this dude speak for the Freedom Caucus?
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Mar 23, 2017 16:05
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So the meeting of the damned should be starting any moment now yes?
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Mar 23, 2017 16:33
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So is this meeting going on or not?
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Mar 23, 2017 17:14
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Any chance of reporting of the meeting while its in progress or at least some leaks?
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Mar 23, 2017 17:29
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If this makes it into the Senate that number will go even further down as people have more time to digest just how terrible it is, especially after whatever poo poo the Freedom Caucus got.
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Mar 23, 2017 17:36
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eviltastic posted:It's not the meeting, but there's some reporting on the people who aren't in the meeting: Does this mean that some of the HFC refused to go to the meeting?
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Mar 23, 2017 17:51
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Haha the expert deal making ability of Trump everyone.
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Mar 23, 2017 19:03
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RocktheCaulk posted:Let's all remember the Republicans have no balls though and will roll over for some scraps in the end. Cool thanks for be low effort Nothing Matters post.
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Mar 23, 2017 19:49
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So this is a sure sign of pure desperation on the part of Ryan right? Safe to say that today's meeting was a disaster?
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Mar 23, 2017 20:41
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evilweasel posted:Yep. Freedom caucus still wouldn't agree, and "moderate" defections just keep piling up. Anything that gets the HFC on board almost certainly means enough moderates jump to "no" to kill it. 37?! Wow it's gone up like 10 in the past day.
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Mar 23, 2017 20:44
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So how many more moderates are ready to jump ship over the new concessions to the HFC that still didn't even get those psychos onboard?
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Mar 23, 2017 20:50
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Fulchrum posted:That Koch brothers announcement was a starting whistle. The system works! 
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Mar 23, 2017 21:01
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So how long until Republicans begin pretending that the bill didn't even exist in the first place?
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Mar 23, 2017 21:11
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Which is more humiliating for Trump, it being shot down in a vote or just thrown away without a vote? Or are you saying that Ryan will force a vote no matter what to try and share the blame for failure?
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Mar 23, 2017 21:15
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evilweasel posted:He will definitely force a vote. The blowback is going to be immense and he's going to need the additional targets for the base's rage. Nice.
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Mar 23, 2017 21:18
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Craig K posted:i legitimately don't know who the gently caress this bill as is WOULDNT royally piss off Trump. He'd brag about literally anything passing at this point.
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Mar 23, 2017 23:29
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evilweasel posted:i go to meetings for 2 hours and the cbo tells the house they're spending almost $200b extra to cover zero additional people How does that even happen.
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Mar 23, 2017 23:31
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So CNN is saying that there are 26 Nos and 4 Leaning No. What happened to the 37 from earlier? edit: weird, Washington Post on their main page is saying 35 No and 16 Leaning No. That's a pretty large differential between the two sites. What's up with that? Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 23:33
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evilweasel posted:There's two ways of getting numbers: So is it safe to say that The Truth... is Somewhere in the Middle?
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Mar 23, 2017 23:43
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So what are they going to do, just silently glare at eachother for an hour?
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Mar 24, 2017 00:04
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evilweasel posted:Final bill will include EHB repeal and is likely a final gamble that when push comes to shove HFC will bend. I think it won't even matter as I think they may not have moderates with the EHB repeal. But if you had to put money on it the NOs are pretty safe bet I think.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:17
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eviltastic posted:I think I was right, ryan wants delay/pulled vote, and Trump is having none of it: haha go down in flames you gently caress
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Mar 24, 2017 17:40
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eviltastic posted:Yuuuup. If Trump starts going after Koch backed NO votesrs let the GOP Civil War begin.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:44
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So what happens if Boss Baby Trump demands a vote no matter what gently caress the results. Will it have to take place?
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Mar 24, 2017 17:47
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Excellent. How many Nos from today alone does that make?
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Mar 24, 2017 17:57
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Hopefully this blows up in their face like last time especially since they need it done by Friday at the latest.
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Apr 4, 2017 18:57
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Fulchrum posted:Have they done anything yet that couldn't just be empty promises and bluster? Apparently not and they only have until Friday to do anything so it's all probably a non-starter.
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Apr 5, 2017 02:00
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After the humiliating embarrassment that was Trumps last attempt at this I'm happy he's so willing to stick his dick back in the hornets nest.
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Apr 14, 2017 20:07
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So they've already reached 22 No's on this new bill that has the HFC on board. If Trump demands a change so that states can't request waivers that just means we go back to the first bill which had zero HFC support, which was more than 22 No's. So either way this latest attempt to bring down Obamcare is dead in the water. Again.
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May 2, 2017 00:35
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Fulchrum posted:So, this is it for the year, right? They needed a budget resolution to be able to repeal Obamacare, they need to do the budget now, so they've lost this years window to actually repeal, and will need to try again in 2018, when the threat of voter backlash is worse? From my extremely limited understanding of the situation, I think so.
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May 2, 2017 00:51
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The HFC is the gift that keeps on giving.
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May 3, 2017 18:12
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Oh wouldn't it be sooo loving sweet if they hold the vote only for it to fail. Like maybe if a couple Lean Yes' get visited by the Ghost of Christmas Future tonight or something and gently caress up the whip count.
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May 4, 2017 01:16
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As someone in MA would it be useful for me to call/mail representatives in other states? Maybe lie about where I live?
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gently caress I thought Arkane got banned a long time ago.
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