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Healthy young people want no insurance without a mandate why would they give a flying gently caress about catastrophic coverage otherwise?
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/856172721016897536 I mean it's dumb but Medicaid doesn't cover dental or vision if your over 18 in Kentucky so it would be better than the nothing already.
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Apr 26, 2017 18:44
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I hope this presidency just destroys the Trump name. He is not going to please anyone and does not deserve the amount of money he makes off the brand.
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May 4, 2017 00:26
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Be a plumber. No joke.
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May 5, 2017 16:12
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A choice between being financially hosed and being financially destroyed isn't much of a choice.
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May 9, 2017 14:08
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My dad vehemently refutes UHC because everyone from the UK he knows pays a lot in taxes and it doesn't help them much. It takes forever to do things and they have to have private insurance to get anything done. He says what's the point of waiting six months for an MRI if you're dead? To which I explained it would still be better than nothing if Trump took everything away again. I asked him how would you get treated if you didn't have insurance and he said you can go to a hospital they have to treat you. But when I asked who do you think pays for the bankruptcy a lot of people will file because of the bills they can't pay, that kind of shut him up. This is the dumb poo poo you have to deal with. UHC is only going to improve the countries prosperity regardless of its disadvantages and that should be the number one goal. I wish people would understand that.
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May 16, 2017 19:50
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I hope that with all the outcry the ACA has been getting that we will have a single payer system within my lifetime. A lot of people had to get insurance for the first time in their lives and they actually liked it. It wasn't perfect but I think most sane people understood we need something to fall back on that isn't bankruptcy. I think Obama said it best in that there were things wrong with it but you can always try to change them for the better. Just pitching it on the floor helps nobody except for maybe the rich.
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Jun 27, 2017 19:02
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It wouldn't even get rid of your good work insurance you'd just have more options but bloo bloo I have to pay 30 bucks a paycheck for everyone else (ignores Medicare).
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Jun 27, 2017 19:14
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And you would think a healthy and smart population would be a good financial investment for corporations. But what the gently caress would I know?
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Jun 27, 2017 19:16
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If you wanna get real macro level about it: having free healthcare for your population helps cut down medical costs due to preventative care, helps cut down on bankruptcy costs. Healthy populations are smarter and more productive. Like you said more jobs to help cover the whole populations needs. Plus a bunch of things I’m sure I’m forgetting. These would also make rich people richer but gently caress minorities and poor people I guess.
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Oct 25, 2017 03:18
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If they'd just implement single payer nobody would care after the first few years.
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Oct 25, 2017 13:13
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Probably, but they won’t be affordable since everyone that doesn’t want insurance is going to drop their plan like it’s a beehive. At least until the economy tanks from it and all the insurance companies pull out.
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Dec 16, 2017 02:51
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Seems silly but at our Walmart there is an outreach clinic that is part of the local hospital that charges decent rates for simple things. Some Insurance covers it and you can get stuff like antibiotics pretty fast. Keep that in mind too.
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Jan 11, 2018 15:38
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No Equifax still provides the workforce stuff, it’s state dependent but unless you don’t file taxes or started self employment recently they use tax return to verify income. Some states want to verify if you have money stashed away in an account but a state like Kentucky does not care.
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Jan 11, 2018 19:44
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Yea it shouldn’t matter either way since you would get the money back or have to pay the fine when you file taxes. I’ll speak for Kentucky as I know what they need, they want your tax return and only take personal records when you can’t provide it or your income changes enough to warrant personal records. In theory that is. States like to put in certain requirements to make it hard for people so they don’t have to spend as much money on it.
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Jan 11, 2018 19:56
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The whole system is going to implode soon.
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Jan 30, 2018 01:26
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They won’t afford it so UHC happens or insurance cuts everything and people just file bankruptcy to the point it crashes the economy. The way people are pushing UHC now though I could totally see it happen within my lifetime.
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Jan 31, 2018 07:04
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i am harry posted:Goon parents post itt the total cost of your child's day of delivery. Think it cost us about 4kish when all was set and done. Real lovely part was the birth was in February so we had to meet our deductible again. We’ll be paying it off for a few years at least. What a loving joke.
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Feb 8, 2018 22:12
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We have the wellness program and there’s some sort of penalty for not doing the yearly survey, I can’t remember exactly what though. You can get gift cards and junk but then you’re supposed to pay taxes on them at the end of the year, go gently caress yourselves.
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Mar 5, 2018 05:33
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Kentucky has been trying to ram work requirements into it so don’t get too cozy it’s coming down the pipeline. A judge ruled against it but I bet it won’t be much longer.
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Sep 25, 2018 03:13
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I mean it’s all under the disguise of helping people find jobs and make their lives better. But really it’s just to get people off Medicaid since the state can’t afford the expansion on its own. Really lovely thing is it’s more strict than the SNAP work requirements because you have to go through the insurance company if you want to say you’re unable to work without already being on disability.
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Sep 25, 2018 04:29
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Income guidelines for a single person household in KY is 1100ish a month so about 13k a year so it’s pretty close.
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Sep 25, 2018 04:41
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Yea but man that poo poo adds up. A lot of people including me can’t afford even the 100ish dollar copays and that’s before they heap some stupid rear end fees they never tell you about cause they need to take a “routine” blood test that cost 200 dollars.
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Nov 1, 2018 03:13
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Yes but that’s not a good solution.
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Nov 1, 2018 03:58
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Anyone know how med school in India works? Lot of doctors get imported from other countries which I assume is cause it’s cheaper and easier to find good candidates.
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Nov 1, 2018 19:35
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Yea it’s real dumb and with the mandate going away the junk plans aren’t getting any better. Plus states like KY are fighting tooth and nail to put in work requirements on Medicaid expansion adults.
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Nov 18, 2018 18:06
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Well nobody in the US really does preventative care cause it’s expensive to go to the doctor so they don’t go unless there is an emergency. For most people they think it won’t effect them and that 1 out of 4 is sitting on 100,000 dollars of medical bills and is acutely aware.
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Jan 25, 2019 07:41
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Get yourself better friend, it may not be the answer you want but the IRS is so understaffed they probably aren’t going to audit someone at poverty level cause there’s nothing to gain and it’s a waste of resources.
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Feb 5, 2019 06:58
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That’s probably not completely true, there’s probably something else they can do. Medicare for all isn’t bulletproof, but imagine now you actually work minimum wage and it’s just enough to not be eligible for Medicaid but all you can afford is a catastrophic plan. Oh and your medication isn’t covered so you have to pay 150 dollars a month just on meds.
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Feb 23, 2019 15:47
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Probably be worth stashing the money and filling bankruptcy.
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Mar 2, 2019 06:20
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MAGI takes gross income. Unless you have kids it’s pretty hard to get unless you wanna live super poor.
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Jun 1, 2019 06:22
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Sounds like s great reason to file bankruptcy to me, loving morons.
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Jun 20, 2019 12:23
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Imagine if you had to pay 2 million dollars for the polio vaccine just because it would keep you from ever contracting the disease and think of the savings!
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Jun 20, 2019 12:45
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We’d probably save a lot of money by lowering costs and keeping a lot of people from having to file bankruptcy but shhhhhhhhhhh.
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Jun 22, 2019 06:29
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Yup
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Jul 26, 2019 17:06
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Well that’s because the government pays for dialysis.
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Jul 26, 2019 23:33
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Yea it’s complete horseshit why anybody with half a loving brain cell would take this poo poo over universal healthcare deserves the crippling debt they will get.
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Nov 3, 2019 18:34
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I know that poo poo drives me up a wall. I had to get surgery a couple years ago and they literally waited till right before Christmas to approve it. So I had surgery December 27 a few more days and I would have had to pay up my deductible again after spending half a year spending up to it to begin with. gently caress you I spend a lot every month just cover whatever I need.
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Nov 4, 2019 05:45
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Which is a good reminder that if you have elderly parents, it’s going to be hard, but convince them to get their resources situated cause if they have to go into a facility they will take everything they can.
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SpartanIvy posted:How do you suggest you get your resources situated? My dad's going into a nursing home pretty soon and while my mother has power of attorney and everything I'm still worried about what they could do to gently caress with their finances beyond what is agreed to be paid to the facility. Fwiw my dad does have a DNR and wants to die. It’s different state to state, if they have any appreciable resources they don’t want to lose IE: house, property, retirement funds. Talk to a lawyer that specializes in it. It will be worth the time and money spent on it. Lawyers I deal with know some loop holes I never knew about and even if you have to give up some of it they won’t take it all. Sooner the better.
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