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Mokelumne Trekka posted:Not good, because the Rand types are just doing political theater and will end up coming around imo Nah, this thing aint going anywhere in its current form. Mechafunkzilla posted:Do you guys think medicare-for-all is a saleable idea for the American people? Medicare for all is a slogan, not an actual policy proposal. Something a lot of people don't seem to entirely grasp is how loving monumentally difficult it is to overhaul a 1 trillion dollar industry, even if you have all the stakeholders on board which isn't close to the case. TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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Monkey Fracas posted:Am I misremembering or is medical debt/bankruptcy somehow classified differently when compared to normal debt now? I don't know about bankruptcy, but it is sometimes treated differently in certain kinds of credit modeling, and when they do it's usually in the consumers favor. For example medical debt's importance in a mortgage application might be a lot less than say credit or auto debt. This is because a person defaulting on medical debt often still pays their mortgage and car payments, but someone defaulting on credit card debt is much more likely to be in serious financial trouble in many other ways. TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 8, 2017 |
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You can handwave all you want but at the end of the day doctors salaries in the US, particularly for specialties, is substantially higher than it is in the euro /canadian systems. Sometimes up to double. Naturally, it's of course part of the issue, along with the AMA limiting the supply of doctors to keep salaries high, fighting the use of PA's or NP's to do jobs they are qualified for and so on. Complex problems are caused by multivariate effects, but people love to dumb things down to soundbites. Reforming insurance is probably the biggest piece to the puzzle but there's other pieces to consider.
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Huzanko posted:You guys keep thinking the GOP base is poor hillbillies. Most Trump voters were middle and upper class suburbanites, IIRC. Nope.  I guess if you do that dumb thing where everyone is middle class you could tautologically say you are correct e: and it's dumb to care about what the average trump supporter is in a elector college system. what you care about are the people that pushed him over the edge in the states that matter. In florida this would be old fuckers, in the rust belt you'd have poor uneducated whites, and so on. TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 16:44 on May 13, 2017 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:I'm really tired of people declaring that the problem is dems abiding by the rules and not that a huge portion of the electorate is actively evil. These morons are just as dumb add the tea partiers who were pissed that the repubs didn't blow up the country or something to prevent the aca from being passed. Turns out elections matter, crazy I know. Honestly the resistance provided by the democrats so far has been extremely good but Bernie bros are crybaby children who will never be happy 
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Rygar201 posted:My man, you have thoroughly missed the point Pointing out when people are flat out wrong is good, Actually. Actuaries aren't the reason US healthcare sucks.
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evilweasel posted:I disagree that's doing harm. It's not a "the customer is always right" attitude and you keep trying to characterize it to make it an easy problem instead of a hard one. Plus, your rationale just outlawed cosmetic surgery. And this is why professionals are completely redoing the recommendations for testing and screens. People are loving stupid (hell even most people here are badly informed on the topic).
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Lote posted:You're applying statistics to people with a sample size of 1 and also giving examples where the answers are clear cut. Obviously, no surgeon would do that procedure using just your example. I can also make up a scenario where a surgeon would do a procedure most of the time: lets say someone with that tumor of 0.01% chance of death subsequently develops debilitating anxiety and agoraphobia because of that fear. They lose their job and stop eating. All other options have failed and the person begs the surgeon to remove it because they will be less anxious. I imagine most surgeons would do that procedure. This is also wrong.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:This is usually the part of the argument where we bring up serial killers and architects of genocide and we find where your line is, FYI.  This conversation is pretty good evidence that half the "leftists" here are really just depressed assholes who are using leftism as an outlet for their hate. Accretionist posted:I think this is a glib way to characterize policy-that-kills. -a Republican, talking about abortion but but buruttt~~~~~~~~~~ it's different ~~~~~~~~
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VitalSigns posted:If you've got a non-assholish explanation for why someone might support destroying the US healthcare system and killing the old, sick, and poor in order to give $1T to the richest of the rich, I would be very interested to hear the specifics. That's where most people were here about 5-10 years ago, the switch to frothing hatred that gives FREEP a run for their money has been a really recent thing here. It's pretty sad honestly.
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Raldikuk posted:Actually the government does have a bit of this mandate. Now you stated it in a universal sense so it isn't their only priority. But for highways the speed limit is set to indeed account for risk management and to lower the risk of accidents. It actually turns out there are a lot of factors involved in what speed actually results in the safest environments and it isn't as simple as "hurf durf lower speed limit = fewer accidents". What is actually found is that the speed limit that 85% of motorists will travel is the safest. So here in lies the problem of lowering interstate speeds to 30 MPH because people won't follow it and will become aggressive to those that do. Certainly politics can get in the way too and police budgets and what have you. But the fact is that we /do/ want to select speed limits that result in minimizing deaths. It would be trivial to speed limit all cars in the US, this point is very stupid. Like incredibly so.
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BarbarianElephant posted:He probably hates Obama and Trump about equally. Obama foiled his dream to be President. Trump insulted him and his service, and got elected by acting like a clown, when all McCain's dignity did not impress the American public one bit. So he's probably torn on which one of them he wants to succeed least. There's literally no evidence whatsoever that he hates Obama. Obama didn't ruin his chance to be president, Bush did (twice). TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jul 28, 2017 |
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