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Confounding Factor posted:Not only the millions who will lose insurance, but how many jobs will be lost? There were reports of it being millions also. Don't think of this as losing jobs necessarily. They're not going to wake up and there be no nurses, for example. Right now, everything is kinda being downgraded in the medical field. Sure, doctors will always be hired, especially because its expanding so much. But now you're more likely to see a PA than a doctor. This isn't a big deal; PAs can handle 99% of what a doctor can. But LPNs are being completely phased out. Now you're getting CNAs. What used to be the job of an RN is now relegated to a CNA 2 or whatever. So healthcare will continue to be a career field that will probably buoy the economy for a while. It's just these new roles will pay a fraction of what they're replacing. And that's without even getting into the poo poo poor people are conned into doing. Chiropractors instead of Orthos, life coaches instead of psychiatrists, herbalists instead of you know whatever, etc
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Concerned Citizen posted:i really like this alternate gop universe where people who can't afford insurance can afford to go to a doctor I touched on this earlier in the thread, but their pivot is going to be changing what a doctor visit is. Yeah sure you can't afford to see an ortho, but that chiro will take any kind of insurance you got and just charge you fifteen dollars to put you on a table and lean into your back. Sure, you can't afford a nutritionist, but there's an herbalist who will help you with your diet. No physical therapist but there's a tax credit for a Planet Fitness membership and two free sessions with a licensed personal trainer. Can't get a psychiatrist but you can afford a life coach. And then they'll point and say that of course healthcare is affordable. Look at all these things people can go to. Who are you to turn up your nose at the local acupuncturist?!?!?! The snobby coastal elites have been making GBS threads over Traditional Chinese Medicine for years. As a fun side note, Life University outside of Atlanta is the largest horseshit holistic training ground in the United States. It's also the only university that gives scholarships for womens rugby. Forceholy posted:Marie Antoinette was born into privilege. Paul grew up poor and forgot what it's like living on Medicare and Food Stamps. Marie Antoinette also really didn't know what was going on and most of the more salacious rumors about her were pure fabrication. Paul Ryan can't make that claim.
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Boon posted:For those that missed it, John Oliver did a good recap of the AHCA on Last Week Tonight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifi9M7DRazI
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Reminder that Tom Price ran a luxury orthopedic clinic in a rich suburb and when he was on the board of Grady in Atlanta he tried to close it.
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May 7, 2017 21:22
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RandomPauI posted:I don't follow. He tried to close his own clinic? tom Price started a very successful ortho clinic a rich atlanta suburb. On the spectrum of medicine, what he did was just short of a beverly hills plastic surgery practice as far as urgent medicine goes. Of course there are major needs for orthopedic medicine and I'm oversimplifying, but most of his patients were people that were hoping a rotator cuff surgery could take some strokes off their golf game. Guy never dealt with medicaid, and every person that qualified for medicare could also pay out of pocket. He was just printing money. Eventually he managed to work his way onto the board at Grady for political reasons. Grady is a major trauma hospital right smack dab in the middle of downtown atlanta that treats a very under served community. It has every problem you'd expect from a hospital that primarily deals with medicaid, people without it, and oh every gunshot wound in atlanta. also whomever just walks in off the street needing narcan. It's also the best place in the south east if you're having a stroke. Now he did part of his residency at Grady as well. Every single physician in the greater Atlanta story have a Grady story. Once he was on the board and well on his way to republican stardom, he went out of his way to close the drat place because it couldn't turn a profit. I don't know and can't find if he was there in 2007 when they drat near pulled it off, but it was a priority for him. A lot of this is memory from Atlanta stories written at the time so I can't find them all too well. anyway closing grady then would have forced basically all of south atlanta to go to atlanta medical center which is a kiss of death. He's a piece of poo poo.
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May 8, 2017 14:17
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WV was basically decomposing because they didn't have access to anything.
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May 8, 2017 16:08
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Could someone please explain to me where the whole "you get to keep your doctor" bullshit comes from are they saying that switching plans means you'd lose your doctor out of network? like if they signed up for the ACA they wouldn't get to go to their doctor once a year? Is it one of those talking points that sounds really good to people but doesn't make a lick of sense in practice?
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May 13, 2017 05:36
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Craptacular! posted:The answer seems to be some variation of "but they need to kill healthcare to send it's money to tax cuts", but when the hell did Republicans care about the national debt when actually governing? That's just something they do to tell the opposition that there's no money left to accept any course but theirs. if they're not offset they have a 10 year sunset. basically they go away in a decade, just like the bush tax cuts. their donors want these cuts in stone.
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are you guys familiar with what's going on with mission healthcare in western NC and BCBS? Has it been discussed in here?
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