NCAA BB Preseason N/V: Fake Classes Are Ok

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BI NOW GAY LATER: Jan 17, 2008; So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Poque posted:

I think one of the non-16 play-in game winners has won at least one more game every season since its inception, feels like the KSU/WF winner has a real chance against Cincy

kstate/cincy would be a loving brawl

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R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

Welsh-Ryan was insane.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 00:43

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

R.D. Mangles posted:

Welsh-Ryan was insane.

Congrats, go beat Vandy.

Then, uh...good luck. You're better than most of the WCC!

# ? Mar 13, 2017 00:47

mastershakeman: Oct 28, 2008; by vyelkin

I can't believe northwestern is in the tournament. this is bullshit

# ? Mar 13, 2017 00:56

HanabaL03: Nov 12, 2003; We're spread, we're spread, we're spreading our.... wings!

Holy poo poo boys, it's been 10 years. But NEVADA is back!

Everyone will talk about Cam Oliver and Marcus Marshall, but Jordan Caroline is our best player. He will feast down low against ISU. He can also shoot 3's.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 01:10

HanabaL03: Nov 12, 2003; We're spread, we're spread, we're spreading our.... wings!

Bird in a Blender posted:

5 Seed for ISU, best we could do. Don't know enough about Nevada though.

Would be great if we got Kansas in the Sweet 16.

I'm a Nevada alum, was in Vegas for the MWC Tournament. Let me know what questions you have. I'd like your breakdown of ISU as well if you don't mind.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 01:12

Bird in a Blender: Nov 17, 2005; It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

HanabaL03 posted:

I'm a Nevada alum, was in Vegas for the MWC Tournament. Let me know what questions you have. I'd like your breakdown of ISU as well if you don't mind.

Yea sure, I'd love to know more.

Iowa State Cyclones
Led by senior PG Monte Morris, he rarely makes mistakes and has the best assist/turnover ratio in the country for like three years running. Used to play a super up tempo offensive game, but it's a little slower these days. It's a team mostly focused on offense, and they shoot a lot of threes. They win because they also make a lot of threes. ISU is a little on the small side, with Morris, Burton, Thomas, and Mitrou-Long all 6'-5" and under. The tallest are Solomon Young and Darrell Bowie, both at 6'-8", but normally only see the court one at a time. Offense normally works around the perimeter looking for a three, or to open the lane for a drive to the basket. Everyone on offense but the big men can shoot the three, which is why they can spread defenses out. The tend to play 8 deep, and the offense averages 80.9 a game.

ISU has been bad at rebounding for a while, and this team is no different. Since they play a little smaller, and at the perimeter, they don't get that many offensive boards. Getting badly out-rebounded has cost ISU a few games, and if they don't shoot well things go south in a hurry because they don't create lots of second chances. Overall defense is average, giving up 72 points a game. There has been more focus on defense on Coach Prohm, making ISU a more balanced team.

The team had a pretty rough stretch at the end of non-con play, and beginning of conference play. Last few weeks though they have looked really good, and playing well together. Solomon Young took a while to get used to college ball, but is turning into an essential player on D. If the Clones start a game shooting well, then they usually win. They've also struggled to close out games though, letting some teams back in with a minute or two to go. May cost them in the tournament. Overall, it's a very experienced team, which tends to help in the tournament. I actually think they can be a Sweet 16 team, or Elite 8 if they really play at their full potential.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 01:36

Jastiger: Oct 11, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

I grow weary of consistently seeing teams the Cyclones crush in conference play placed way way higher than them. Kansas, looking at you.

This is very doable for the Cyclones though, woo woo!

# ? Mar 13, 2017 01:47

HanabaL03: Nov 12, 2003; We're spread, we're spread, we're spreading our.... wings!

Bird in a Blender posted:

Yea sure, I'd love to know more.

Iowa State Cyclones
Led by senior PG Monte Morris, he rarely makes mistakes and has the best assist/turnover ratio in the country for like three years running. Used to play a super up tempo offensive game, but it's a little slower these days. It's a team mostly focused on offense, and they shoot a lot of threes. They win because they also make a lot of threes. ISU is a little on the small side, with Morris, Burton, Thomas, and Mitrou-Long all 6'-5" and under. The tallest are Solomon Young and Darrell Bowie, both at 6'-8", but normally only see the court one at a time. Offense normally works around the perimeter looking for a three, or to open the lane for a drive to the basket. Everyone on offense but the big men can shoot the three, which is why they can spread defenses out. The tend to play 8 deep, and the offense averages 80.9 a game.

ISU has been bad at rebounding for a while, and this team is no different. Since they play a little smaller, and at the perimeter, they don't get that many offensive boards. Getting badly out-rebounded has cost ISU a few games, and if they don't shoot well things go south in a hurry because they don't create lots of second chances. Overall defense is average, giving up 72 points a game. There has been more focus on defense on Coach Prohm, making ISU a more balanced team.

The team had a pretty rough stretch at the end of non-con play, and beginning of conference play. Last few weeks though they have looked really good, and playing well together. Solomon Young took a while to get used to college ball, but is turning into an essential player on D. If the Clones start a game shooting well, then they usually win. They've also struggled to close out games though, letting some teams back in with a minute or two to go. May cost them in the tournament. Overall, it's a very experienced team, which tends to help in the tournament. I actually think they can be a Sweet 16 team, or Elite 8 if they really play at their full potential.

Nevada Wolf Pack

Eric Musselman has turned the Nevada program around in his two years at the helm. Two years ago Nevada had won 9 games and their coach was fired. Last year they won 24 games and were the winners of the CBI Tournament. This year they won the MWC regular season and post season titles, sitting at 28-6.

Led by 3 great players: Marcus Marshall (19.8ppg), Cam Oliver (15.8 ppg, 8.7rpg) and Jordan Caroline (14.8ppg, 9.2rpg), the Pack is a high scoring team. They average 80ppg, 39rpg 16apg. Depth is an issue, as Musselman only plays 7 players. Jordan Caroline is our unsung hero, and is our energy guy.

Nevada used to be a mainstay in the NCAA tournament, getting to the Sweet 16 in the 2004 tournament. Winning a game in 2005 and 2006. This will be their first time in the Big Dance since 2007. Should be a fun, high scoring game.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:07

Marquis de Pyro: Sep 25, 2006; Evil Prevails

MourningView posted:

Actually gently caress northwestern and their poo poo head coach and their insufferable journalist alumni

The guy who on the same day wrote an article about how Michigan "sold their soul" to win with Harbaugh because he ran off a recruit and an article about how amazing Northwestern basketball (with the coach being sued for doing this with an actual scholarship player) is actually owns.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:42

Adun: Apr 15, 2001; Publicola; Fun Shoe

Marquis de Pyro posted:

The guy who on the same day wrote an article about how Michigan "sold their soul" to win with Harbaugh because he ran off a recruit and an article about how amazing Northwestern basketball (with the coach being sued for doing this with an actual scholarship player) is actually owns.

Say what you will about Northwestern's insufferable journalist alumni but at least they can write in English.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:45

SamuraiFoochs: Jan 16, 2007; Grimey Drawer

SpiritualDeath posted:

I'm attending the Sacramento games, and I would enjoy watching John Collins so I hope they advance from Dayton.

JC is a boss and Bryant Crawford was frankly robbed from HM All-ACC Honors. He is really loving good and has swagger out the rear end so he can be super fun to watch when he's on.

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

the committee did a god job of picking the field, horrible hob seeding them

only team left out i thought should have been in was illinois state instead of a 15 loss vandy

the seeding is awful tho

Agreed. Hey Andichu, thoughts on Wake/K-State? I actually like our chances. The teams that kill us are teams that can run with us, which K-State decidedly cannot.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:47

ColdBlooded: Jul 15, 2001; Ask me how to run a good team into the ground.

Thank you CBS for making the selection show not terrible like last year.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:52

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Marquis de Pyro posted:

The guy who on the same day wrote an article about how Michigan "sold their soul" to win with Harbaugh because he ran off a recruit and an article about how amazing Northwestern basketball (with the coach being sued for doing this with an actual scholarship player) is actually owns.

harbaugh is also a huge shithead though

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:04

Ghost of Reagan Past: Oct 7, 2003; rock and roll fun

My advanced numbers really like Nevada's statistical profile.

My advanced numbers also really like Syracuse so, like, it's probably loving broken.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:05

elentar: Aug 26, 2002; Every single year the Ivy League takes a break from fucking up the world through its various alumni to fuck up everyone's bracket instead.

Sad Illinois State didn't make it but that aside the teams in the tournament are probably the right ones. Holy poo poo did they gently caress up the seeding though, in cases like Wichita State I don't even know what they could have been drawing on other than personal hatred of Gregg Marshall or the Kochs (in which case, sure, whatever).

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:14

RestingB1tchFace: Jul 4, 2016; Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one....but mines the best!!!

Regnevelc posted:

About what?

Minnesota is going to go balls deep on MTSU.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:23

HanabaL03: Nov 12, 2003; We're spread, we're spread, we're spreading our.... wings!

RestingB1tchFace posted:

Minnesota is going to go balls deep on MTSU.

I agree, if I had to rank the 12/5 upset by most likely to least:

1. Nevada*
2. Princeton
3. MTSU
4. UNCW

*I'm a Nevada alum...

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:27

Marquis de Pyro: Sep 25, 2006; Evil Prevails

MourningView posted:

harbaugh is also a huge shithead though

Sure, biggest rear end in a top hat alive, except for Collins who is obviously worse. So probably not a great article to write

Adun posted:

Say what you will about Northwestern's insufferable journalist alumni but at least they can write in English.

Unlikely, that's why editors exist. I'm sure their forum posts are much lazier.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:30

anne frank fanfic: Oct 31, 2005

which team will baylro lose to in the first round. o ok i see it. Baylor Btihc

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:33

Hello Towel: Aug 9, 2010

Indiana missing the tournament is bad enough, but refusing to host a home game as the #3 seed in the NIT is an even dumber look. This season just keeps getting inexplicably worse.

At least Mike Davis is back in the tournament (again) with Texas Southern. :unsmith:

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:35

R.D. Mangles: Jan 10, 2004

i can't believe my dumb, lovely team that did nothing but look like this forever is actually in the tourmament

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:38

Regnevelc: Jan 12, 2003; I'M A GROWN ASS MAN!

Did IU turn down a NIT bid?

Also - how hot is Crean's seat? It's gotta be on fire soon..

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:38

DC Murderverse: Nov 10, 2016; "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Regnevelc posted:

Did IU turn down a NIT bid?

Also - how hot is Crean's seat? It's gotta be on fire soon..

No, they're the 3 seed in Syracuse's bracket.

Iowa, Illinois and Indiana will be representing the Big Ten in the NIT. Illinois got a higher seed than Indiana despite having lost to Rutgers at the end of the season and firing their coach, while Indiana "upset" Iowa in the tournament. Of course, Indiana will lose to Georgia Tech in the first round because they don't even get the home court advantage because they're working on Assembly Hall), Illinois will probably lose to Valparaiso because Valpo always turns it on for the NIT, and I feel like one of TCU, Bama or Clemson will take care of Iowa.

DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Mar 13, 2017

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Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

Regnevelc posted:

Also - how hot is Crean's seat? It's gotta be on fire soon..

The Missouri coaching search rumors are just assuming he'll be fired and no one else will want him. Not quite to the Matt Painter levels of 'it's a done deal' at this point, but a lot of people will be disappointed if Indiana keeps him (and then more disappointed if he's fired and like, any other P5 programs go after him--or if he just decides to take a year off or something).

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:43

RumbleFish: Dec 20, 2007

South Carolina unfortunately ended the season on a low note, having devolved into the Sindarius Thornwell One-Man Show. We're a pretty complete team when he gets some support, but it seems like the entire roster is in a funk right now except for him. Frank Martin is usually a pretty good tournament coach, so hopefully that and the opportunity to actually be in March Madness for once will light a fire under these guys. Regardless, I am beyond happy to be here, and to be playing in S.C. to boot.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:49

Cavauro: Jan 9, 2008

You should try to beat Duke in my opinion. It would be good

# ? Mar 13, 2017 04:28

Poque: Sep 11, 2003; =^-^=

god, gently caress Duke's free ride to the elite eight

# ? Mar 13, 2017 04:32

SamuraiFoochs: Jan 16, 2007; Grimey Drawer

Syracuse fans are loving SALTY. It's amazing.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 04:42

RestingB1tchFace: Jul 4, 2016; Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one....but mines the best!!!

HanabaL03 posted:

I agree, if I had to rank the 12/5 upset by most likely to least:

1. Nevada*
2. Princeton
3. MTSU
4. UNCW

*I'm a Nevada alum...

I follow Musselman due to his Minnesota ties. Nevada has a good squad this year. Wouldn't surprise me to see them pull the 5/12 upset. My 5/12 upset likelihood is a little different than yours.....however.

1. UNCW
2. Nevada
3. MTSU
4. Princeton

Virginia is an offensively inept team. Makes them vulnerable against most decent teams.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 04:47

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

UVA has a good offense they just play really slow.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 04:52

RumbleFish: Dec 20, 2007

Cavauro posted:

You should try to beat Duke in my opinion. It would be good

Extremely same.

But seeing as we haven't won a tournament game in 40 years, I'm gonna start small here and just hope that we beat Marquette.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 05:29

Yug: Aug 6, 2016; by FactsAreUseless

Poque posted:

gently caress Duke

agreed

# ? Mar 13, 2017 05:38

Benne: Sep 2, 2011; STOP DOING HEROIN

How did South Carolina get a backyard home game as a 7 seed?

# ? Mar 13, 2017 05:42

RC and Moon Pie: May 5, 2011

I see Georgia made the NIT with a potential game against Georgia Tech in the second round.

Georgia's games all end with the Bulldogs winning by two points (or fewer) or losing by 15. Maten's playing again, so they might be OK.

Georgia Tech always plays the opposite of what's expected of them. With Indiana a burning landfill right now, Tech must be very confused as to how to play.

# ? Mar 13, 2017 05:42