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Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


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Is this guy the CCC equivalent of Slippery, OP?

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DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

then why the gently caress would you imply that being in the military guarantees youre gonna shoot someone?

it was a low effort post and i didnt think i needed to worry about triggering people

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

sorry i didnt think i needed to worry about triggering people

you are really stupid

im sure you fit right in the ccc

DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder
i was not being literal, and my words were poorly chosen. i'm not going to defend them.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
on one hand it sounds retarded

on the other hand it sounds like you have a 0% chance of ever deploying to Iraq or Afghanistan.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Does the backwoods experience turn into Lord of the Flies?

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

Does the backwoods experience turn into Lord of the Flies?

No,it turns you into red and orange hats, which is a fate worse than death.


Proud Christian Mom posted:

on one hand it sounds retarded

on the other hand it sounds like you have a 0% chance of ever deploying to Iraq or Afghanistan.


Fun fact 2: because of our emergency responder status, CCC members can't get drafted. The predecessor of the Cs, the California Ecology Corp, was created as an alternative for young people facing the draft during the Vietnam war.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
So how many "Don't rape the trees / Animals / each other " safety briefings have you endured to date?

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
How many accountability formations do you have on any given day?

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

In today's stupidity, we were hanging out at the firehouse getting training when they whipped out this loving thing on us:





It's called a Mculaski. Some mad scientist combined a McLeod and a Pulaski into a single tool and managed to defeat the purpose of both tools at once. You can't use the axe because you'll dull the grubbing side, you can't use the scrape because it's shorter than an actual McLeod scrape and the rake is 3 prongs that are spaced too far apart to rake.

This is why you don't let non-hotshots make tools :psyduck:

tyler
Jun 2, 2014

That looks like it belongs in Bloodborne.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Kawasaki Nun posted:

So how many "Don't rape the trees / Animals / each other " safety briefings have you endured to date?


Pesticide20 posted:

How many accountability formations do you have on any given day?

As an employee of the state, I could get an EEO complaint for saying 'that's gay'. Practically, the C's are 90% dudes, so we merc each other all day.

I won't be the smallest bit shocked when we have to stand in hookline while the Center Director takes away every small privilege because a CM beat up a lil old lady for shoes or something equally mind bending dumb.

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


Do you think a program like that, but one that was basically just a WPA job that actually paid a decent wage, would be more effective? In other words, does the regimented lifestyle somehow make the work you do that much better vs treating it like a generic construction job?

If the state just paid folks 15/hr to drive out and clear land/build trails as a 9-5 job would it accomplish as much as you can do with that program? I guess it's not necessarily 100% about the job itself but more about the rehabilitation/life improvement aspect huh?

Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Mar 16, 2017

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017
Does the CCC offer any straight-up forestry "tracks" that have one doing exclusively tree work, not poo poo shoveling?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
What's a chainsaw specialist?

Do they name their chainsaws?

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
Anybody who hasn't accidentally injured themselves or someone else is a "chainsaw expert." It's a title you lose, not a title you earn.

Purposeful injury with a chainsaw is either titled "suicide" or "murder," for the record.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Dick Burglar posted:

Anybody who hasn't accidentally injured themselves or someone else is a "chainsaw expert." It's a title you lose, not a title you earn.

Purposeful injury with a chainsaw is either titled "suicide" or "murder," for the record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lESp7ns5NGI

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

A White Guy posted:

As an employee of the state, I could get an EEO complaint for saying 'that's gay'. Practically, the C's are 90% dudes, so we merc each other all day.

I won't be the smallest bit shocked when we have to stand in hookline while the Center Director takes away every small privilege because a CM beat up a lil old lady for shoes or something equally mind bending dumb.

So NONE?! What is this micky mouse bullshit?!

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Dick Burglar posted:

Anybody who hasn't accidentally injured themselves or someone else is a "chainsaw expert." It's a title you lose, not a title you earn.

Purposeful injury with a chainsaw is either titled "suicide" or "murder," for the record.

This is wrong and dumb.


FrozenVent posted:

What's a chainsaw specialist?

Do they name their chainsaws?

Basically, there are 3 levels of certification that you can get certifying that you know What you're doing when it comes to dropping trees. Faller 3, you could fell something less than 8 inches in diameter safely. Faller 2, you can fell something 16 inches in diameter safely. Faller 1, you can fell even really big trees

The number one killer of Wild land workers that isn't a car is trees. Falling trees is dangerous business, and you have to be trained for it.

As for naming them, yeah. The firehouse I'm in named all their saws girl names to make keep track of them easier.

Idiot report: Me. Today we were training with fusees, basically road flares meant to start fires quickly. I popped my fusee, and then went to put it out in the snowbank. I didn't see the box of fuses at my feet, and some molten phosphorus dripped into it, igniting all the other fusees. The firehouse guys had a good laugh as they put it out, but now there's a yellow snowbank with a box of melted paper and phosphorus in it.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



A White Guy posted:

The firehouse guys had a good laugh as they put it out, but now there's a yellow snowbank with a box of melted paper and phosphorus in it.
They pissed it out?? Awesome!

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
re: chainsaw talk

Do you wear these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJS2q3HRCHQ

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Zeris posted:

re: chainsaw talk

Do you wear these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJS2q3HRCHQ

Yeah we wear chainsaw chaps, eye protection, and earplugs. The chaps are designed to rip into long fibers that immediately stop up the saw, but if you're hellbent on tearing flesh, its easy to hurt yourself through the chaps.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Idiot report: One of my COMET brothers got fired for being drunk on the job. My COMET sister has racked up 4 write ups in 2 days. And another COMET got 3 write ups yesterday.

Not even a full month and almost a full third of the group I came in with has been fired is or soon to get fired.:cripes:

I'm really beginning to think the reason that 6% graduate is because 90% of the people who join are loving retarded.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

A White Guy posted:

I'm really beginning to think the reason that 6% graduate is because 90% of the people who join are loving retarded.

If you reread your "numerous reasons" someone would join the CCC, and filter that through "you are 18-25", 90% is probably low.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
How many people in the CCC couldn't meet the ASVAB requirements for enlisting?

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Pesticide20 posted:

How many people in the CCC couldn't meet the ASVAB requirements for enlisting?

Well,lemme think about this. I came in with a COMET of 21.

1. You have to have a high school diploma. :rip: 12 of my COMET.
2. You can't be grossly overweight. :rip: 3 of my COMET.
3. No felonies,even expunged. :rip: 1 COMET.

So, that's 16 of 21 people who couldn't join. So, going by those numbers that means that about 24% of my COMET could've enlisted.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

ulmont posted:

If you reread your "numerous reasons" someone would join the CCC, and filter that through "you are 18-25", 90% is probably low.

Yeah, that's part of it. A lot of young guys suddenly find themselves out from underneath the thumb of mom and dad and start doing stupid things because they can. They forget that there's only so much tolerance this organization gives, and that drug and alcohol offences are ground a for immediate termination.

:shrug:. One of my buddies reached apathy nirvana yesterday and said "I don't give a poo poo who stays or leaves."


I'd say the CCC is about as retarded as enlisting. The one upside is that if you want to quit, you're not guilty of a minor felony.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
So its like enlisting but without getting shot at and no dishonorable discharge waiting for you on the other side.

Zeris
Apr 15, 2003

Quality posting direct from my brain to your face holes.
Two questions:

-Who are these tireless leaders that don't burn out despite hiring and firing all these fuckups?

and

-Do you resemble your av

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Zeris posted:

Two questions:

-Who are these tireless leaders that don't burn out despite hiring and firing all these fuckups?

and

-Do you resemble your av

1. The C1s are nearly all former corp members who fell in love 2ith the program. The Corp generally recruits C1s from orange hats, so people who have shown their ability to roll around in the Corps poo poo and not eat it. Their bosses, the C2s are by and large professionals recruited from outside the Cs. My C2 is a guy who worked dor the USFS forever and then retired to join the Corps upper staff. We're also looking for another C1 right now, so if you just love working with young adults and can handle being endlessly disappointed, join today!

If you mean Red and Orange hats, I haven't sussed out why they tend to stay. One of the soon to be red hats is my homie, and his particular reason for promoting was "I didn't save any money" when he was a blue hat.

2. Unfortunately yeah :negative:

Finished fire training. One particular thing that stood out to me: the fire shelters. Basically, fire shelters is the firefighters last Last Resort. Its entire purpose is to ensure that firefighters can avoid breathing super heated air, but its like wrapping a potato and putting it in the oven. You're literally betting that the fire front will pass quickly enough to survive, because otherwise, you will be cooked alive. We learned of a particular crew that got cooked. This is a link to a video of their last moments as heard over radio. 19 men cooked alive in their bags, due to a sudden change in wind direction and them being caught "off the black", the already burned area they were in before they decided to leave.

The CCC runs a fire crew and I want to be on it for the summer. The chance of us being exposed to such a situation is vanishingly small, but just looking at deadly fires in the past, even something as drop dead simple as burn piling can go wrong.Not far from me, there wad a prescribed fire that got out of control and burned 20 homes to the ground.

Still, fire fighting sounds light years better than camp support. The King Fire had almost 100 Cs members working it. The IC was a real dick and wanted corp members to not be seen on their phones. The problem with that, is that there is jack poo poo to do through the middle of the day, so instead of finding menial poo poo for corpmembers to do, C1s prowled the bathrooms and cars of the camp, looking to find anyone on their phones and send them home from emergency(which is an immediate termination). My C1 told us about this as though it were some point of pride to be firing people for the crime of being loving bored. :cripes:

A Festivus Miracle fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Mar 19, 2017

stinkypete
Nov 27, 2007
wow

What in the hell was the tool in that picture? How much does it weigh? I still do not know exactly what job it was trying to combine.

Kick-Puncher
Jan 20, 2006
Do you have people added to your crew throughout the year? It seems like you would have to but you have only mentioned people getting fired.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

My dad does wildland firefighting and it isn't a loving joke. That radio transmission sucks because he knows people who have been in that situation.

"Whoever is yelling into their mic, You're gonna have to stop."

:negative:

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Kick-Puncher posted:

Do you have people added to your crew throughout the year? It seems like you would have to but you have only mentioned people getting fired.

The reason I mention my COMET so much is because those are the people who I came in with. We're dispersed amongst different crews. There's a new COMET coming next month, and those people will replenish the crews when they graduate. The CCCs recruitment style is like a toddler mashing a mound of poo poo together. Some of it will stick, most will fall off.

Soulex posted:

My dad does wildland firefighting and it isn't a loving joke. That radio transmission sucks because he knows people who have been in that situation.

"Whoever is yelling into their mic, You're gonna have to stop."

:negative:

Yeah, the crew boss who did our training was mad about how the Air Sup reacted to the situation. It's easy to get mad at him for being so passe about the situation, but cmon. It ain't the Air Sups fault that the hotshots got themselves into the situation that they did.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

We got our Nomex today aka the Banana Suit. Everyone elses Nomex looked like someone had swan dived a burn pile after it had finished up,but mine was still in the packaging. Burning piles with drip torches in the pouring rain tomorrow. :getin: At least we won't have to worry about spot fires.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I've never heard of this

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Burn pile:shrubs,sticks,tall grasses, occasionally chopped up trees put together for the intent of burning. You see, wildfire needs stuff to burn so you can reduce the intensity of the next fire(and yes, there will be another fire) by reducing the poo poo available for it to burn. Accumulate fuel in one place, reduce to ash, watch for embers starting small fires of their own.

Drip torch: Diesel and gasoline fuel mixture combined in a can with a lit wick to set long lasting fires. Used to start fires by firefighters. Like this guy uses:



Banana suit: All yellow fire resistant clothing. The firefighter is wearing Nomex clothing. Imagine if he was wearing yellow pants and you kinda get the picture. Its not the asbestos suits structure firefighters wear, its more geared toward wildland fire. Its also not fire proof, just fire resistant. Nomex will burn given proper motivation.

Trip report: Did exactly zero burning. Instead we built more piles today that we're gonna chip tomorrow, in the freezing rear end rain. We were at the mouth of a narrow valley, getting winds straight to the face with rain. Not too bad, but gawddamn am i gonna wear my thermals tomorrow. Also my earplugs got wet, so every time I put them in, it was like getting a wet willy from a corpse.

Up next: chipping, the fun process of.

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Welp, hanging out at the hospital getting work mans comp claim filled out. I hurt my shoulder doing fuels reduction work so The Great Gay Statw of California is paying for an Xray.

At least I'm still getting paid while I sit here doing nothing but browsing GiP.

One of my COMET sisters got on 30 day contract (aka one more fuckup in a month and we'll fire you) for being in her boyfriends room. Apparently, her roommate ratted her out. That would normally not be cool in my book, but this particular COMET sister is such a lazy gently caress that I'm glad she's about to get fired.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
Why hasnt anyone burned down your facilities if you have access to fire regularly?

Edit: Stop loving malingering

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Dec 30, 2000

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