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Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.
I'm thinking about hiking Kilimanjaro, going on Safari, and spending a weekend in Cape Town over December. Here's what I have sketched out so far. Note that I typically am very aggressive in travel. Once I'm bored, I want to be somewhere else. Any thoughts or experiences you can share?

Dec 13th - 15th
Fly to Kilimanjaro

Dec 16th
Orientation day

Dec 17th - Dec 22nd
Kilimanjaro

Dec 23rd
Travel

Dec 24th - Dec 27th
Safari

Dec 28th
Travel

Dec 29th - Dec 31st
Cape Town

Jan 1st - Jan 2nd
Fly to LAX

Kilimanjaro
I'm choosing the 6-day hike over the 7-day hike, though I could use the day before or the day after and extend to 7 days. I'm still in reasonable shape and I've been at 14K feet before. 19K would be a big jump for me, but I'm comfortable with it.

Safari
I don't have any need to see any specific animal. I just want to see some animals in their habitat and some cool stuff. Is it possible to do the Serengeti and Norongoro Crater in this four-day timeframe?

Cape Town
I really liked Cape Town last time I visited. I'd like to see it again and just chill before I head back to LA. I am likely theoretically better off skipping Cape Town, but it's sooooooo loving far unless already in Africa; so, I'd like to go.

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Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.

Admiral101 posted:

I don't agree with the 6 day Kilimanjaro. Guessing you're doing Machame?

I spent some time at 14k altitude as well in South America, but 19k on kilimanjaro was a whole different ballgame. Keep in mind that most days on Mt Kiliyou'll be around 15-16k feet elevation or so. The last 2-3k comes all at once at night.

The 6 day climb probably generally involves skipping the camp that's halfway between the barranco wall and the camp situated at the base of the summit. To do this, you will have to power through the day and make sure to get to the last camp before evening (ideally in the afternoon). This is because you will probably be waking up around midnight in order to start your climb (it's a 5ish hour climb from the camp to the summit). You do not want to be rolling into the last camp at like 7pm because you won't get the sleep you need for the summit climb. Even when you get off the summit, it's not like you'll be able to catch up on your sleep. The minute you're off the summit you'll be packing your poo poo up for the 5-6 hour climb to the bottom base camp. You're not allowed to linger at the camp next to the summit.

You better be very confident in your fitness to both make the climb and have it be relatively enjoyable. Not to mention, the camp you skip is actually above the cloud line, so if you're into night photography, you can get some great shots during the night that you otherwise wouldn't be able to get (since you'd presumably be climbing up to the summit instead).

I did the 8 day lemosho climb and really enjoyed the different biomes we hiked through. Kilimanjaro is really a textbook example of the journey mattering more than the destination.

Regarding the safari: yes, I did both the Serengetti and Norongoro Crater in 3 days/2 nights. 4 is plenty of time. If anything, I had enough of the zebras by day 3. Try to get a booking to camp on the serengetti for one of the nights. It's really awesome and was definitely one of the highlights of my trip.

Yes, I'd like to do Machame. Understood on the extra day. I'll do 7 days at least. I read that many people land in Kilimanjaro and immediately hike the next day. What was your experience? I'll be hiking and backcountry camping but it's hard to do elevation once the fall hits as I'm not a huge fan of snow camping.

Thanks for the good news on the Safari. Will definitely try to camp on the Serengeti for a night. I love stuff like that.

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