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My opinion on him has changed
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 01:57 |
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8-Bit Scholar posted:You sure are fuckin' talky for a Pokemon 8-Bit Scholar posted:I mean, there absolutely was a bunch of people annoyed they'd remake Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, but that was also when Myspace was new, wasn't it? Social media hadn't created this obnoxious echo chamber effect. We didn't have industries who make money off generating page views constantly telling people that their childhood was being ruined. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Well, if he wanted to test the strength of his brand, this is the way to do it. I think he's been making a relatively consistent "political" point in that there's been an unreasonable wave of people who seem to want to strip everything out of context and broadcast it in a vacuum to defame or delegitimize people who speak politically unpopular or contrary views. That's what he'd talked about in a few out "scandelous" interviews, like the time he was featured on Breitbart and he said...absolutely nothing outlandish at all, beyond reiterating the above statement and making an argument that it's sort of bad that speaking your mind about politics is so dangerous today. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Boy this thread really improved eight pages ago when Moridin showed up. 8-Bit Scholar posted:People are calling him a literal Nazi. I mean, it's not the same tone as most mock threads, there's a lot of genuine fury and bile here, which is...I get it, but I also don't, because he just said poo poo and that's all. People are taking what he said, though, and attaching the most inflammatory possible labels and descriptors to it. The thread, the article, a lot of people are actively attempting to use as damaging of words and labels as possible, in a manner that feels dishonest, especially since it comes down to picking out a sequence of quotes to justify a point about a person's character. 8-Bit Scholar posted:gently caress Ronald Reagan. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Yeah but Jontron said nothing of the loving sort about killing anybody. What I'm saying is, people think he should be punished for it, and that isn't free speech. Rebukes or whatever, fine; if Playtronic legitimately wants to make a political statement by excising Jon Jafari from their game, then they are well within their rights to do so, but I don't really respect it. Particularly in the face of the fact that Jontron was no small part of the resurgence of Banjo-Kazooie nostalgia that helped feed into Yooka-Laylee's successful Kickstarter. He promoted the game and brought attention to the Kickstarter and while that certainly entitles him to nothing, you would think that there'd be a little more...something there. He didn't even say any of the stuff on his channel, he shared an opinion in a public open forum. This is what you are supposed to be free to do in this country, so why is it increasingly so that people can expect to be punished for it? It's a lovely thing to do, I think; we encourage people to speak their mind and be honest and true to themselves or whatever, unless we decide they said something we don't like, then we literally do not care if they live or die. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Tell us more about what Nazis say at their meetings, it sounds like you've been. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Oh, I've been genuinely distressed by our vicious lack of regard for our own first amendment rights for a lot longer than Jontron's even been in the public eye. 8-Bit Scholar posted:I'm still waiting for you to explain what racist poo poo I said, since you accused me of saying "racist poo poo all the time" about a million pages back. 8-Bit Scholar posted:So then, are racism and cultural identity not intrinsically tied? Is it possible to have a cultural identity devoid of racism? If so, would it be devoid of ALL measures of dividing peoples into groups? Can we define ourselves without defining "others"? 8-Bit Scholar posted:Well fortunately I'm not disallowing anybody anything, but I am saying that we are, culturally, really bad at criticizing ideas, because it seems that when we are critical of people's ideas, it tends to be very all or nothing. Somebody who holds different opinions from you is a Bad Person and many are happy to see them punished for what they say. 8-Bit Scholar posted:This is an extremely alarming equivocation. You may hate bigotry and all the vile things that spawn from it, but there is no way you can rationally say that holding a negative opinion of an idea of a race is the equivalent to somebody wanting to having sex with a child. To wit, pedophiles in this society are, once caught, effectively branded for death. The justice system does not sentence them as such, but it is left to vigilante groups or their fellow prisoners instead. The fact remains is that pedophilia is statistically quite rare; racism is quite common, and also quite subjective. I do not think somebody who wants to not have immigrants move into their neighborhood deserves to die. 8-Bit Scholar posted:That's sort of the thing, you have this compulsion to debate the issue, and you seem to be off target on what the issue is. Nobody is saying racism isn't a bad thing. The debate is, what should the response be to it? 8-Bit Scholar posted:The Romans certainly did. I agree, most of these peoples were not fully homogenous, but you have things like "Nubians" which still serves as a term to refer to Africans, even if its original use was quite specific to a certain group. There may have been more nuance to that end, but I do not think it's even remotely a stretch to suggest that most of these peoples, with the possible exception of Rome, which became pretty diverse due to its position as a global superpower (all roads lead to Rome etc) but I suspect that Romans probably had a hierarchy of ethnicities within its society as well, but most of these peoples likely identified themselves and others based on so-called racial characteristics. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Skin color is literally only melanin. It has always been shorthand for cultural differences. In a melting pot like America, friction should be expected; even if the national goal is to be open to those who want for a taste of paradise, it is practical to assume that cultures will not blend smoothly. Much of the USA's racial tensions are borne of this basic fact. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Y'know, here's a big question: 8-Bit Scholar posted:Worse still, even those who may have an open mind to the debate find themselves lacking a lot of crucial information about the important issues being debated. Now most people rely on television news, which by its very nature must condense information into a few densely-packed seconds of simple exposition, and this process has never been ideal for presenting any issue in any level of depth. 8-Bit Scholar posted:Uh...this is a really odd reaction to that statement. What do you think the reason I want it to be is? That people don't care? 8-Bit Scholar posted:He certainly seems to be a bit too impressionable. My whole takeaway from his Destiny debacle is that he's attempting to repeat talking points other people have given him. 8-Bit Scholar posted:You sure are fuckin' talky 8-Bit Scholar posted:You sure are fuckin' talky 8-Bit Scholar posted:You sure are fuckin' talky 8-Bit Scholar posted:You sure are fuckin' talky
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 02:04 |
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Tired Moritz posted:very hard not to be a nazi in 2017 its actually incredibly easy
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 02:09 |
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 02:20 |
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lmbo another beatdown courtesy of forums poster cubone
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 02:26 |
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christ and you were telling me off for being mean a couple of threads ago
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:02 |
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Every once in a while 'ol Bone Boy just tears into somebody and it's always good and fun.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:10 |
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Is this the youtubers thread now? Cause I got a question. What are these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-VFBOOL5c They must be pretty important because Youtube is pushing me to watch them more and more. Feels like Pewdiepie started doing them, now everyone else wants in on it. Personal vlogs with a serious tone of voice and sometimes tears. Is this the new thing then? I scream at video games but I'm actually a very emotional and deep person?
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:17 |
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Flubby posted:Is this the youtubers thread now? Cause I got a question. What are these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd-VFBOOL5c They must be pretty important because Youtube is pushing me to watch them more and more. Feels like Pewdiepie started doing them, now everyone else wants in on it. Personal vlogs with a serious tone of voice and sometimes tears. Is this the new thing then? I scream at video games but I'm actually a very emotional and deep person? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYaTpjqgUg
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:23 |
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Lmao that boy ain't right
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:25 |
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mccarthyism is extremely cool + good
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:25 |
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Lmfao
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:25 |
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So can we all just agree 8-bit here is a thundering moron and should be treated as such across the forum until they leave in shame? Assuming they are capable of such feelings.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:33 |
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LethalGeek posted:So can we all just agree 8-bit here is a thundering moron and should be treated as such across the forum until they leave in shame? Assuming they are capable of such feelings. no that is mccarthism
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:34 |
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LethalGeek posted:So can we all just agree 8-bit here is a thundering moron and should be treated as such across the forum until they leave in shame? Assuming they are capable of such feelings. Was there anyone who didn't already feel this way about him who isn't also a retard?
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:39 |
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Streak posted:Was there anyone who didn't already feel this way about him who isn't also a retard? 8bit ball says unlikely but it is unfair to judge everybody a retard by this binary Tonetta fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:45 |
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If you disagree with someone, you're censoring them.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 03:56 |
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LethalGeek posted:So can we all just agree 8-bit here is a thundering moron and should be treated as such across the forum until they leave in shame? Assuming they are capable of such feelings. I've been doing that since he got laughed out of D&D after he threw a fit about hecklers ruining stand up.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 04:31 |
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It's a bad sign when you're so obtuse that your arguments become non-Euclidean snarls. As for Jontron: what single part of this entire saga is "pc gone mad!!!"? There's a trail of evidence leading back months showing exactly how much of a thunderous buffoon he is, and when given the chance to explain himself in a live interview/debate he doubled down on pants-making GBS threads retardation. It's not an isolated incident, it's not a quote taken out of context, it's a clear and consistent right-wing ethnonationalist agenda. Whether it's malice it misinformation that lead him down the road is another matter, but either explanation doesn't garner much sympathy in my mind.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 04:43 |
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The difference between Jontron and the rest of the game grumps crew is that everyone else knows well enough to keep their traps shut about anything outside of "fiddle-de-de how bout dem bideo-games?" At least egoraptor has people drawing anime girls for him every Saturday.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 06:09 |
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what happened to lovely wizard
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 06:22 |
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Have Blue posted:It's a bad sign when you're so obtuse that your arguments become non-Euclidean snarls. every time a right wing position is criticized people scream it is "pc gone mad" even if it's obvious nazi poo poo, calling it out is "pc gone mad"
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 07:04 |
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it's not his fault, he's just so loving thick he repeats things he heard like "non white people might get into the gene pool if they assimilate" and "black people are more likely to be criminals" with no racial agenda, he just wants to fit in and people were mean to him how can you judge a fat neckbearded manchild for that, it's like Nazi Germany or something
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 07:24 |
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Jesus. I had no idea Banjo-Kazooie has become such a sociopolitical powder keg.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 07:24 |
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XMNN posted:it's not his fault, he's just so loving thick he repeats things he heard like "non white people might get into the gene pool if they assimilate" and "black people are more likely to be criminals" with no racial agenda, he just wants to fit in and people were mean to him Have you considered that the nazi movement was built on misinformation and the mouth breathers who looked at it and thought "wow this is insane all the jews own everything we gotta do something about this"
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 07:34 |
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jontron is so fat that if you were to put a gun against his head cnn would report mass shooting in progress
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 11:29 |
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scarycave posted:I was expecting this thread to be full of jokes but all it seems to be is people saying they're racist or trying to prove they're not racist. Tbf the not-racists can be quite funny, though probably not for the reasons they'd like.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 11:34 |
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a misanthrope posted:its actually incredibly easy I mean, for people who aren't Nazis it is.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 11:40 |
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jontron is so stupid that he pulled an allnighter for his aids test & still failed the drat thing
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 11:47 |
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jontron is so fat he hails eatler
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 15:08 |
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pc lithman posted:jontron is so stupid that he pulled an allnighter for his aids test & still failed the drat thing Getting aids can actually be a bit harder than most people think.. I think even a blood transfusion isn't 100% certain.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 15:16 |
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Jontron is so dumb that he would be victimized by the National Socialist ethnic cleansing program for not being of a sufficiently white European stock.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 15:47 |
can i watch other normal boots videos or will jontron still get a cut of youtube ad money i like did you know gaming and region locked
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:39 |
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Jontron has never hosed.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 20:23 |
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uber_stoat posted:he's part Persian. he isn't even really white by the exacting standards of white nationalists. they'd stick him in a cattle car. If I don't get to be called Aztec Sex God, then Persians sure as gently caress don't get to be called Persians He's Iranian
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 20:25 |
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I remember there was some hilarious scandal years back that jontron jerked off onto egoraptors wife while she was sleeping and everyone believed that was the reason they stopped working together
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 21:21 |
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Lol they removed him from the game on his birthday talk about owned.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 21:39 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:I remember there was some hilarious scandal years back that jontron jerked off onto egoraptors wife while she was sleeping and everyone believed that was the reason they stopped working together I wouldn't doubt it, but if true I doubt Arin would have ever made up with him.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 21:49 |
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# ? May 8, 2024 05:18 |
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jontron good, arin bad, danny amazing whoo boy am i glad jon's finally getting out of politics. maybe now he'll focus on making more content
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