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The thing originally that made me start to not like it was once I watched the original House of Cards and yes minister I realized that the show was just way too optimistic for my taste. Plus then I went left, now it just seems like liberal fantasy. Hey is that Flox from the worst Trek tv show? Crowsbeak has issued a correction as of 22:55 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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FactsAreUseless posted:It's not awful, but it's already very dated just in terms of writing and style. It's the best Sorkin show, but it's still a Sorkin show. I'd rather watch West Wing than the Newsroom, which is unbelievable garbage. West Wing is at least a mostly-competent drama. But frankly, if you want punchy dialogue and character moments, just watch Gilmore Girls instead. This is good advice. Gilmore Girls 
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Barbe Rouge posted:I like it a lot but it can be cringy. And as somebody else said, it's high fantasy, a constantly scrolling subtitle "THIS IS WHAT THE POLITICAL LANYARD PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE" would be useful. Remember when Trump first announced Gorsuch for the Supreme Court and a few libs wanted Ginsburg to retire so Trump could put Merrick Garland in her seat so "everybody would be happy"? Literally a West Wing episode 
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Mar 19, 2017 23:40
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Mar 19, 2017 23:46
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were they nazis? i thought it was tied to the stupid af qumar plot
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Mar 19, 2017 23:48
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:The president's personal aid gets cucked by a frenchmen who then goes on to roofie the president's daughter leading to her being kidnapped by nazis. That is an actual West Wing plot line. Yeah but Acting President John Goodman was dope
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Raskolnikov38 posted:were they nazis? i thought it was tied to the stupid af qumar plot Yeah my bad. The nazis were the ones who tried to assassinate the president.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Yeah but Acting President John Goodman was dope he got more done in a week than Bartlet did in seven seasons
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Mar 19, 2017 23:56
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there's a lot bad about the west wing but i can't not love CJ Craig
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Mar 19, 2017 23:58
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zeal posted:there's a lot bad about the west wing but i can't not love CJ Craig The Jackal was the highlight of the show.
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Mar 19, 2017 23:59
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Watch the first season of Heroes instead
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the best worst thing about the west wing was the entire season they spent trying to hide the bin laden stand-in assassination from the american public instead of shouting it from the rooftops. and then it became even more hilarious when obama actually killed bin laden and announced it immediately
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Mar 20, 2017 00:01
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The Kingfish posted:This sounds like stdh, but my Comm 101 professor made us watch a monologue called "America isn't the greatest country in the world.": Is the reason this is bad is that it's not a comprehensive enough list of all the bad poo poo about this country? Or just because it's from the newsroom
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Mar 20, 2017 00:57
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BraveUlysses posted:Is the reason this is bad is that it's not a comprehensive enough list of all the bad poo poo about this country? Or just because it's from the newsroom I mostly like it, but it pretends America was ever good. Not the greatest, just good.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:35
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west wing is empty non political idealism and house of cards is empty non political nihilism
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Mar 20, 2017 02:48
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I love that the Trump campaign and presidency has jumped the shark on reality and ruined contemporary political dramas.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:55
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R. Guyovich posted:west wing is empty non political idealism and house of cards is empty non political nihilism hm maybe i should give house of cards another shot i didn't find it that interesting tapped out middle of season 1
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Mar 20, 2017 04:08
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R. Guyovich posted:west wing is empty non political idealism and house of cards is empty non political nihilism
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Mar 20, 2017 04:27
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i liked british house of cards better because it seemed like francis urquhart was actually having fun compared to frank underwood who is just a zombie
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Mar 20, 2017 04:29
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i tried watching west wing and the very first episode involved president martin sheen bringing a bunch of evangelical leaders into a conference room and owning them with their own logic. that was as far as i got
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It's really easy to bring up the concept of a scene out of context and make the show seem Real Bad, but it's actually a good show.
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Mar 20, 2017 05:31
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The best political TV show is actually Veep
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Fullhouse posted:i tried watching west wing and the very first episode involved president martin sheen bringing a bunch of evangelical leaders into a conference room and owning them with their own logic. that was as far as i got that's the only way sorkin knows to establish a protagonist
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Mar 20, 2017 06:24
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I will say it's extremely funny to watch Sorkin's mouthpiece characters advocate for keeping marijuana illegal while he was snorting mountains of cocaine. Also there's a subplot referencing a time he went on the Television Without Pity forums and got harassed by fans. He takes potshots at the moderators of the forum. WampaLord has issued a correction as of 07:21 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 06:32
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LinYutang posted:The best political TV show is actually Veep this also the thick of it
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R. Guyovich posted:that's the only way sorkin knows to establish a protagonist President Bartlett wasn't even supposed to be the series protagonist or that big a part of the show initially; Sorkin intended him to only make periodic appearances every few episodes and the majority of the show focus on the scutwork of his staff, but Sheen made such an impression early on that the writers decided to make him much more prominent.
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BraveUlysses posted:Is the reason this is bad is that it's not a comprehensive enough list of all the bad poo poo about this country? Or just because it's from the newsroom Because its the stupidest thing I've ever seen or heard. The scene is a a dipshit liberal's melodramatic conception of "telling it like it is" complete with the pathetic Yglesias-style cursing. I just watched it again for the first time in years to make sure I didn't misremember how bad it was and now I need a retard vaccine. E: "We used to fight wars for moral reasons. . . we waged war on poverty not poor people." The Kingfish has issued a correction as of 23:03 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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A lot of people hate when somebody starts telling them about dreams they had but what's even worse is having to witness Aaron Sorkin's wet dreams
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Mar 20, 2017 22:40
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Aaron Sorkin did some hard thinking about the defects of contemporary liberalism back in 2012 and conclude that liberals were losing political battles because they weren't smug enough.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:54
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I'm not sold on this show, but then again, it doesn't have that scene from ER where a hated character is crushed by a helicopter
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Mar 20, 2017 23:24
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if you're going to subject yourself to "THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" television, you're much better off with parks and rec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nojC6fP56VI
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Idk you could do a leftist reading of Parks & Rec even if that wasn't their intention. The whole show is set in a suburban nightmare where substantial politics are all dominated by a greedy candy company, and the best the liberal bureaucracy can do is beautify some public spaces without actually improving the lives of its isolated, borderline schizophrenic residents.
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The Kingfish posted:Because its the stupidest thing I've ever seen or heard. The scene is a a dipshit liberal's melodramatic conception of "telling it like it is" complete with the pathetic Yglesias-style cursing. I just watched it again for the first time in years to make sure I didn't misremember how bad it was and now I need a retard vaccine. I like the part where he finishes his list of all the ways his generation hosed up the America that their parents built and ends it with "oh btw you kids are the worst generation ever". Sure ok.
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Mar 21, 2017 13:32
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Hey remember all those moral wars against the rich injuns lol
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the show's greatest crime is that it didn't end with everyone involved, from the actors to the writers to the production staff to the audience itself, being put to death.
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