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suburban virgin posted:If there's anyone we can forgive for enjoying a show about a power-hungry, bisexual, amoral, southern U.S politician I think it's Senator Lindsey Graham. 
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Coolguye posted:there's 0 self awareness with sorkin. martin sheen's been pretty clear in interviews that hollywood is incestuous. he of all people would know Majorian posted:Also I've met Brad Whitford and Josh Malina and they're really nice IRL. Boom, beat that. i had sex with rob lowe. owned bitch
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R. Guyovich posted:he of all people would know  was it worth it
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seems like a lot of celebs end up banging their kid's nannies (Jude law, Schwarzenegger, etc) I read somewhere that it might have to do with an emotional attraction that men form with whatever woman they see raising their children, but it might just be that there's an epidemic of hot nannies out there
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:seems like a lot of celebs end up banging their kid's nannies (Jude law, Schwarzenegger, etc) it's probably both. lots of out of work actresses need income and taking care of stars' kids pays the bills pretty well i'd guess
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It's not a great mystery. Wife-mother confusion is a common relationship dynamic, in relationships with domineering wives and/or immature husbands, a relationship dynamic in which the wife essentially becomes the mother to both her husband and her children. This is dysfunctional enough on its own, but if you add a nanny to the mix, the dysfunction goes into overdrive. In that scenario, the wife becomes solely the mother of her husband, as the nanny takes care of the kids. This strengthens the wife-mother confusion, particularly when contrasted with the nanny; the de facto mother of his children who, importantly, does not treat the husband as her son. The de facto relationship becomes a husband and wife, living with the husband's mother - is it any wonder then that husband eventually ends up sleeping with his wife?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's not a great mystery. Wife-mother confusion is a common relationship dynamic, in relationships with domineering wives and/or immature husbands, a relationship dynamic in which the wife essentially becomes the mother to both her husband and her children. This is dysfunctional enough on its own, but if you add a nanny to the mix, the dysfunction goes into overdrive. In that scenario, the wife becomes solely the mother of her husband, as the nanny takes care of the kids. This strengthens the wife-mother confusion, particularly when contrasted with the nanny; the de facto mother of his children who, importantly, does not treat the husband as her son. The de facto relationship becomes a husband and wife, living with the husband's mother - is it any wonder then that husband eventually ends up sleeping with his wife? okay, thanks for clearing that up
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:okay, thanks for clearing that up
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's not a great mystery. Wife-mother confusion is a common relationship dynamic, in relationships with domineering wives and/or immature husbands, a relationship dynamic in which the wife essentially becomes the mother to both her husband and her children. This is dysfunctional enough on its own, but if you add a nanny to the mix, the dysfunction goes into overdrive. In that scenario, the wife becomes solely the mother of her husband, as the nanny takes care of the kids. This strengthens the wife-mother confusion, particularly when contrasted with the nanny; the de facto mother of his children who, importantly, does not treat the husband as her son. The de facto relationship becomes a husband and wife, living with the husband's mother - is it any wonder then that husband eventually ends up sleeping with his wife? 
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gently caress you you can't make me
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's not a great mystery. Wife-mother confusion is a common relationship dynamic, in relationships with domineering wives and/or immature husbands, a relationship dynamic in which the wife essentially becomes the mother to both her husband and her children. This is dysfunctional enough on its own, but if you add a nanny to the mix, the dysfunction goes into overdrive. In that scenario, the wife becomes solely the mother of her husband, as the nanny takes care of the kids. This strengthens the wife-mother confusion, particularly when contrasted with the nanny; the de facto mother of his children who, importantly, does not treat the husband as her son. The de facto relqationship becomes a husband and wife, living with the husband's mother - is it any wonder then that husband eventually ends up sleeping with his wife? Someone call the Chapo boys cos we got some serious sexual pathology getting thrown around here
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I want to write a sorkin scene where somebody talks smugly at trump and then he just says lol no.
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Apr 3, 2017 02:40
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Panzeh posted:I want to write a sorkin scene where somebody talks smugly at trump and then he just says lol no. that was the entire election
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R. Guyovich posted:that was the entire election 
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Majorian posted:"West Wing" was a fun show for entertainment purposes. If anyone thought that was actually how Washington worked, they were too dumb to watch the show. It felt like most of the Democrats' best tricks on the show were inspired by real life Republicans like the time the Dems literally hid from Republicans when Congress was supposed to go to recess so that they could bring just enough bodies to the floor for a quorum to pass a bill. Democrats in real life lack the balls to ever consider such a maneuver.
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I watched West Wing Veep Alpha House House of Cards And I really think I 'get' Washington.
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lol you can't understand american politics without NGE
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Baloogan posted:lol you can't understand american politics without NGE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4JXvP-yHbw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkuLgKZbHlw
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alternatively, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qH8S9bu6g4 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaWg298hzro
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or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXjIy0XQGi4
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not clickin any of those
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tadashi posted:It felt like most of the Democrats' best tricks on the show were inspired by real life Republicans like the time the Dems literally hid from Republicans when Congress was supposed to go to recess so that they could bring just enough bodies to the floor for a quorum to pass a bill. Democrats in real life lack the balls to ever consider such a maneuver. My corrupt state-level dems did basically that to pass a lottery bill.
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suburban virgin posted:not clickin any of those god dammit
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Panzeh posted:I want to write a sorkin scene where somebody talks smugly at trump and then he just says lol no. you can read the top replies to literally any of Trump's tweets since the inauguration and see half a dozen smug idiots trying to do this
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Some fun reading about how influential this great show has been. https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/04/how-liberals-fell-in-love-with-the-west-wing
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tadashi posted:I mean, Congress almost got to pick the president. It wasn't that far off. I'd argue they predicted and captured the chaos of the 2016 election perfectly even though, plot-wise, it wasn't any sort of mirror of the election itself. Comedy is just tragedy that happens to someone who for whatever reason really deserves the awful poo poo happening to them according to an external observer (the audience). The idea of it is to be clever enough with the catharsis that its light and silly and leaves open the possibility of recovery. This lightness and wit is what distinguishes season 5 of Veep from say season 5 of Breaking Bad, as the protagonists of both shows reap the consequences of some seriously longass plot arcs. And at the end of the Washington Monument scene in Veep they shift from one tone to the other through no method more complex than just waiting a minute and letting it hang after everyone walks away from her. Selena Meyer is hopeless after politics, she isn't connected enough to do "consulting" or erudite enough for law or rich/cunning enough for business. She's been clowned out of the Oval Office by Laura Montez--who, since Montez has been denied "first female POTUS", is instead "first hispanic POTUS" despite the fact that aside from skin tone and godawful emphasis on her spoken name she's about as latin as she is sikh--as a catspaw for the absolute worst of the crusty-rear end white dudes, all done through a parliamentary trick that was no more or less legitimate or derived from popular mandate than Selena's own ascension to the executive. The entire object of the season was to get someone as awful as Selena in the same ways as Selena into the white house through utterly undemocratic procedural bullshit. If Tom won, for instance, that'd be a good thing! That'd be a really good note for the show to end on, actually! That's not the objective. The objective is to make you squirm. Selena is an awful faker, but Laura is by virtually every metric worse, and not even possessed of the dignity to act of her own ambition, she's just being used for some guy's benefit in a Congressional beef and glad of it. It shouldn't end like this goddammit, this is wrong! This whole thing is wrong! Th... there's no coming back from this one, is there  And as her staff leaves her one by one, physically representing within the scene the awful catty beltway bullshit lifting away from her, she stops being Selena Meyer and just becomes a person with no prospects and the jokes are still the same jokes, but the ultimate subject of them gets just a little bit sympathetic, because when you take away the entourage and the title and the helicopter you just have a really sad lonely and increasingly-old lady sitting alone in an empty park dedicated to a monument for the first president's penis. (and then in the very very very very final 5 seconds right as you're getting up to piss as the HBO logo comes on.... SAVED!!! Veep: confirmed goodshow) Willie Tomg has issued a correction as of 04:47 on Apr 17, 2017 |
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Oh poo poo wasn't tonight New Veep
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HMS Beagle posted:Some fun reading about how influential this great show has been. That sums the Bad Dem mindset up very nicely.
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I mean, that's the lesson of the Obama administration, isn't it? The dream that they were tragically denied in reality, but lived in fantasy, was gutting social security.
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quote:Consider a scene from Season 2’s “The War at Home”, in which Toby Ziegler confronts a rogue Democratic Senator over his objections to Social Security cuts prospectively to be made in collaboration with a Republican Congress. The episode’s protagonist certainly isn’t the latter, who tries to draw a line in the sand over the “compromising of basic Democratic values” and threatens to run a third party presidential campaign, only to be admonished acerbically by Ziegler: the context of this is really bad because both the clinton and obama administrations tried to cut social security
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liberals think reaching a bipartisan compromise with republicans to cut social safety nets is the adult and responsible thing to do and if you dont agree you are childish and immature
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lol i found that scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM1Vt6MyKj0 the antagonist is the person who says we shouldn't cut social security while the protagonist makes condescending statements about his antagonist's immaturity ugggghhhhh
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quote:In one Season 5 plot, the administration opts to install a Ruth Bader Ginsburg clone (Glenn Close) as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. The price it pays—willingly, as it turns out—is giving the other vacancy to an ultra-conservative justice, for the sole reason that Bartlet’s staff find their amiable squabbling stimulating.
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I'd rather watch the country burn than work with these kind of people to fix anything.
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comedyblissoption posted:liberals think reaching a bipartisan compromise with republicans to cut social safety nets is the adult and responsible thing to do and if you dont agree you are childish and immature that reminds me i was fortunate enough to have erskine bowles speak at both my high school and college commencement pretty sure i was a horse thief or theologian in a former life
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comedyblissoption posted:lol what the gently caress that made me lol b/c scalia and da notorious rbg were like this irl
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the "great scene" of the series, where bartlet curses out god in latin at the national cathedral and rattles off his accomplishments, is hilarious he lists a scotus appointment among them, as if the almighty creator gives a poo poo about who's on the federal bench gently caress that show, it sucked from day one and the sopranos should retroactively be given all the emmys the west wing won
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