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PowerbalI
Mar 20, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
I keep seeing these pro-DPRK memes on facebook and they keep arguing about whether it's good or bad in one of the tankie groups I'm in and I don't really know a lot about it so someone tell me if DPRK is good or bad. I guess they think it's like a conspiracy by imperalists and South Korea that all of the refugee accounts of people who escaped NK are like paid to say that stuff or something and America is bad? I dunno. Thanks 4 your help.

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

PowerbalI posted:

I keep seeing these pro-DPRK memes on facebook and they keep arguing about whether it's good or bad in one of the tankie groups I'm in and I don't really know a lot about it so someone tell me if DPRK is good or bad. I guess they think it's like a conspiracy by imperalists and South Korea that all of the refugee accounts of people who escaped NK are like paid to say that stuff or something and America is bad? I dunno. Thanks 4 your help.



tankies are loving insane

PowerbalI
Mar 20, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
mods please grant pb amnesty for this thread, she has access to the main tankie vein

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
i miss the days when the korea-dpr.com forum was open to the public and had the most brokebrained tankie posts on the internet

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007


why do new statues look so weird and lovely compared to older ones

are they making them differently? hiring worse artists? idk

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



Badger of Basra posted:

why do new statues look so weird and lovely compared to older ones

are they making them differently? hiring worse artists? idk

they make 'em out of dog turds now instead of marble

PowerbalI
Mar 20, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
http://thediplomat.com/2014/12/the-strange-tale-of-yeonmi-park/

quote:

You’d have to have been inhuman not to be moved. But – and you’re going to hear a lot of “buts” – was the story she told of her life in North Korea accurate? The more speeches and interviews I read, watch and hear Park give, the more I become aware of serious inconsistencies in her story that suggest it wasn’t. Whether this matters is up to the reader to decide, but my concern is if someone with such a high profile twists their story to fit the narrative we have come to expect from North Korean defectors, our perspective of the country could become dangerously skewed. We need to have a full and truthful picture of life in North Korea if we are to help those living under its abysmally cruel regime and those who try to flee.

:giantthinkingemoji:

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Badger of Basra posted:

why do new statues look so weird and lovely compared to older ones

are they making them differently? hiring worse artists? idk

the more recent ones are commissioned by private individuals on the cheap. westerner countries don't do a lot of figurative statuary anymore, north korea actually makes a bit of cash hiring out their sculptors for african and asian dictatorships because they're the only ones who still to socialist realism

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
They're a third-world dictatorship everyone hates so obviously they're good

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the more recent ones are commissioned by private individuals on the cheap. westerner countries don't do a lot of figurative statuary anymore, north korea actually makes a bit of cash hiring out their sculptors for african and asian dictatorships because they're the only ones who still to socialist realism

hmm maybe they are good

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Pro-DPRK ppl are dumbasses, is there anti-DPRK propaganda spread by the US and SK gov constantly? Yes. Is NK so hosed because of US scorched Earth policy during the Korean and trade isolation afterwards? Yes.

But NK is still a horrible fascist state with starving citizens and totalitarianism, if you go to SK you can find tons of ppl that have visited or formerly lived there and they'll tell you themselves lol

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
The real issue is Israel

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

paul_soccer10 posted:

The real issue is Israel

this issue isreal?

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the more recent ones are commissioned by private individuals on the cheap. westerner countries don't do a lot of figurative statuary anymore, north korea actually makes a bit of cash hiring out their sculptors for african and asian dictatorships because they're the only ones who still to socialist realism



Thug Lessons posted:

They're a third-world dictatorship everyone hates so obviously they're good



Badger of Basra posted:

hmm maybe they are good



Ace of Baes posted:

Pro-DPRK ppl are dumbasses, is there anti-DPRK propaganda spread by the US and SK gov constantly? Yes. Is NK so hosed because of US scorched Earth policy during the Korean and trade isolation afterwards? Yes.

But NK is still a horrible fascist state with starving citizens and totalitarianism, if you go to SK you can find tons of ppl that have visited or formerly lived there and they'll tell you themselves lol




if you fuckers turn this into another one of your pro socialism/anti socialism arguments im going to hack you to death with this axe

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Al! posted:

if you fuckers turn this into another one of your pro socialism/anti socialism arguments im going to hack you to death with this axe



i'm just saying i can appreciate a nice statue

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer
theyre not even communist anymore they removed all references in their constitution that they have for some reason

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Al! posted:

if you fuckers turn this into another one of your pro socialism/anti socialism arguments im going to hack you to death with this axe



what's the story behind this woodcutter's axe?

WINNINGHARD
Oct 4, 2014

Here's an answer, OP: Yes.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Weeping Wound posted:

what's the story behind this woodcutter's axe?

a north kroean soldier in the dmz flipped out and killed some americans with it

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Badger of Basra posted:

a north kroean soldier in the dmz flipped out and killed some americans with it

aah, okay, I didn't know that one

how long ago?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Ace of Baes posted:

Pro-DPRK ppl are dumbasses, is there anti-DPRK propaganda spread by the US and SK gov constantly? Yes. Is NK so hosed because of US scorched Earth policy during the Korean and trade isolation afterwards? Yes.

But NK is still a horrible fascist state with starving citizens and totalitarianism, if you go to SK you can find tons of ppl that have visited or formerly lived there and they'll tell you themselves lol

trade isolationism is literally the state ideology under juche. of course they don't actually follow that because juche was invented so that kim il sung could have his own ideology to match mao, there's a factory district they jointly operate with the south that the north shuts down whenever kim feels like having a tantrum

Brother Friendship
Jul 12, 2013

It sucks we don't make giant statues of people anymore

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Donkwich posted:

theyre not even communist anymore they removed all references in their constitution that they have for some reason

They believe in Juche, which is a weird interpretation/offshoot of Marxism created by Kim I'll Sung after the Soviets put him into power, since then Juche has been subverted even more than it's original doctrine, but the core concept behind it is self reliance and maintaining a "continuous revolution".

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Weeping Wound posted:

aah, okay, I didn't know that one

how long ago?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident

1976

and actually it was a bunch of north korean soldiers who killed two guys, i think i'm getting it confused with something else

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Weeping Wound posted:

aah, okay, I didn't know that one

how long ago?

I think he's referring to Operation Paul Bunyan, which happened in the 70s. Long story short, a couple Americans went out to chop down a tree in the DMZ that was blocking their line of sight, and North Korean soldiers came out and hacked them to death. So the US army came back with a full armored battalion, jet cover, and a mechanical truck saw to cut the drat thing down. They all almost started WW3 over a drat tree.

PowerbalI
Mar 20, 2017

by FactsAreUseless


Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007


i refuse to believe this one was created in sincerity

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I think he's referring to Operation Paul Bunyan, which happened in the 70s. Long story short, a couple Americans went out to chop down a tree in the DMZ that was blocking their line of sight, and North Korean soldiers came out and hacked them to death. So the US army came back with a full armored battalion, jet cover, and a mechanical truck saw to cut the drat thing down. They all almost started WW3 over a drat tree.

man way to overreact to some light ax-murder jeeze

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fallen Hamprince posted:

man way to overreact to some light ax-murder jeeze

The DMZ is serious business.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Badger of Basra posted:

i refuse to believe this one was created in sincerity

they'd probably argue it's for protection against night bombing but they can't because pyongyang, home of the urban bourgoise revolutionary vanguard, is lit up 24/7

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

this is a long video but it's a good deconstruction of juche and north korean propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPf-zZ4eKQ

and yeah north korea sucks

PowerbalI
Mar 20, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

PowerbalI
Mar 20, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

get that OUT of my face posted:

this is a long video but it's a good deconstruction of juche and north korean propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPf-zZ4eKQ

and yeah north korea sucks

ty

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Fallen Hamprince posted:

they'd probably argue it's for protection against night bombing but they can't because pyongyang, home of the urban bourgoise revolutionary vanguard, is lit up 24/7

also it's not ww2 anymore

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
north korea is good

at killing its citizens

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Badger of Basra posted:

also it's not ww2 anymore

yeah but tell that to the north koreans, they were practicing airdropping commandos out of biplanes until the 2000s when fuel became too expensive

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I think he's referring to Operation Paul Bunyan, which happened in the 70s. Long story short, a couple Americans went out to chop down a tree in the DMZ that was blocking their line of sight, and North Korean soldiers came out and hacked them to death. So the US army came back with a full armored battalion, jet cover, and a mechanical truck saw to cut the drat thing down. They all almost started WW3 over a drat tree.

given America, I completely believe this given the importance of cutting down that tree

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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
should've nuked the tree to show that we meant business

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