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R. Guyovich posted:dprk hates and murders christians Yeah I figure they get rid of them the old fashioned way- arresting them on bogus espionage charges and disposing of them in a less outlandish manner. You know, rather than publically making them the dopest, most metal martyrs imaginable
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It is a brutal totalitarian state but it's not an irrational actor. Often its 'provocations' in reaction to American prodding.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm still weirded out that the North Koreans let a Confucianist cult have its own political party, and even lets them have seats in their parliament. yeah why would they want chinese influence like that ?!?!
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The Kingfish posted:It is a brutal totalitarian state but it's not an irrational actor. Often its 'provocations' in reaction to American prodding. lol its 2017 and you think there are still rational actors good one!
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General Dog posted:Yeah I figure they get rid of them the old fashioned way- arresting them on bogus espionage charges and disposing of them in a less outlandish manner. You know, rather than publically making them the dopest, most metal martyrs imaginable The North Koreans are so good at keeping secrets we don't even know they're genociding Christians, is your position.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The North Koreans are so good at keeping secrets we don't even know they're genociding Christians, is your position. how else are all them north korean christains gonna be dead come resurrection day? trumps too weak to do anything about it!!!
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PowerbalI posted:Communism is fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFYFj5q8_Qk
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The North Koreans are so good at keeping secrets we don't even know they're genociding Christians, is your position. My position is that a few Christians have probably been killed, tough not explicitly for being Christian. And also probably not many, because how many can there be?
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General Dog posted:My position is that a few Christians have probably been killed, tough not explicitly for being Christian. And also probably not many, because how many can there be? "Christians are treated like any other North Korean" just doesn't have the same dramatic quality as the steamroller story.
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DPRK is insanely good OP
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Who Is Paul Blart posted:DPRK is insanely good OP It has everything that village idiot who is Paul Blart likes
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Looks like they're good, it turns out, https://www.thenation.com/article/this-is-whats-really-behind-north-koreas-nuclear-provocations/ quote:Donald Trump was having dinner at Mar-a-Lago with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on February 11 when a message arrived mid-meal, courtesy of Pyongyang: North Korea had just tested a new, solid-fuel, intermediate-range ballistic missile, fired from a mobile—and therefore hard-to-detect—launcher. The president pulled out his 1990s flip-phone and discussed this event in front of the various people sitting within earshot. One of these diners, Richard DeAgazio, was suitably agog at the import of this weighty scene, posting the following comment on his Facebook page: “HOLY MOLY!!! It was fascinating to watch the flurry of activity at dinner when the news came that North Korea had launched a missile in the direction of Japan.”
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Fast Luck posted:Looks like they're good, it turns out, meeting the head of state of another country? that's a nuking
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the dprk withdrew from the non-proliferation treaty in the 90s and conducted multiple nuclear tests pre-president fatass but surely the missile test must be all america's fault, somehow
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America invading and bombing multiple sovereign countries has nothing to do with it.
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love 2 support fascist military dictatorships that starve their population while generals live like kings
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:America invading and bombing multiple sovereign countries has nothing to do with it. exactly, it's really because the president had golf with shinzo abe - incisive analysis from the nation
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Ace of Baes posted:love 2 support fascist military dictatorships that starve their population while generals live like kings Viva Chavismo!
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Fallen Hamprince posted:exactly, it's really because the president had golf with shinzo abe A disingenuous reading from Hamprince? Well I never!
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Ace of Baes posted:love 2 support fascist military dictatorships that starve their population while generals live like kings buy war bonds!!
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:A disingenuous reading from Hamprince? Well I never! sorry i didnt put more effort into this dumbass piece of dprk apologism quote:Last October, I was at a forum in Seoul with Strobe Talbott, a former deputy secretary of state for Bill Clinton. Like everyone else, Talbott averred that North Korea might well be the top security problem for the next president. In my remarks, I mentioned Robert McNamara’s explanation, in Errol Morris’s excellent documentary The Fog of War, for our defeat in Vietnam: We never put ourselves in the shoes of the enemy and attempted to see the world as they did. Talbott then blurted, “It’s a grotesque regime!” There you have it: It’s our number-one problem, but so grotesque that there’s no point trying to understand Pyongyang’s point of view (or even that it might have some valid concerns). North Korea is the only country in the world to have been systematically blackmailed by US nuclear weapons going back to the 1950s, when hundreds of nukes were installed in South Korea. I have written much about this in these pages and in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. Why on earth would Pyongyang not seek a nuclear deterrent? But this crucial background doesn’t enter mainstream American discourse. History doesn’t matter, until it does—when it rears up and smacks you in the face. poor lil' nk, being 'systematically blackmailed' into... not invading south korea? this is the left wing equivalent of those moronic thinkpieces after the election about how we really have to empathize with these handsome and well dressed white nationalists Fallen Hamprince has issued a correction as of 07:56 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Fallen Hamprince posted:sorry i didnt put more effort into this dumbass piece of dprk apologism So really you're mad at this article for pointing out that North Korea has been threatened with nuclear weapons for over half a century, and that maybe that informs their decisions regarding their homebrew nuclear program.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:sorry i didnt put more effort into this dumbass piece of dprk apologism You dumb dumb
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What the DPRK actually wants is U.S. troops out of South Korea, left-wing nationalists in power in South Korea, and a peace treaty leading to a ROK-DPRK confederation. And there's a sizable constituency in South Korea that would probably go for it.
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We really are just wasting a lot of time and resources to make sure there's never any kind of reconciliation between the North and South. The ROK army is more than capable of defending their country without the constant deployment of American troops.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We really are just wasting a lot of time and resources to make sure there's never any kind of reconciliation between the North and South. The ROK army is more than capable of defending their country without the constant deployment of American troops. Also B.R. Myers pointed out in an interview this movie is popular in South Korea now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSBGOM94PD4 Pretty interesting wunza movie if only for the setup. Wunza sexy North Korean investigator, and wunza bumbling South Korean detective. But together they go on crazy, hilarious adventures to take down a cross-border crime ring! BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 09:04 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Wikkheiser posted:Yeah. this sounds like the third version of 'the bridge' i am now aware of.
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Wikkheiser posted:Yeah. Tae Guk Gi was really good despite its cheesy setup, so maybe this is too.
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Wikkheiser posted:What the DPRK actually wants is U.S. troops out of South Korea, left-wing nationalists in power in South Korea, and a peace treaty leading to a ROK-DPRK confederation. And there's a sizable constituency in South Korea that would probably go for it.
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rudatron posted:North Korea is not lead by left-wing nationalists, it's a fascist state, it has the ethnic/racial bullshit built into it I think you're misreading the post. Besides, the North Koreans don't want to be on a war footing forever.
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The DPRK is on a feed-absurd-whims-of-the-tubby-manchild-Kim-Jong-Un footing, not a war footing
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rudatron posted:North Korea is not lead by left-wing nationalists, it's a fascist state, it has the ethnic/racial bullshit built into it
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Also I cribbed that from Myers here who also wrote that book on North Korea being a fascist state: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...the_regime.html quote:The goal of [North Korean] nuclear armament is not mere security from U.S. attack, which conventional weaponry trained on Seoul has preserved since 1953—and through far greater crises than George W. Bush’s little “axis of evil” remark in 2002. As every North Korean knows, the whole point of the military-first policy is “final victory,” or the unification of the peninsula under North Korean rule. Many foreign observers refuse to believe this, on the grounds that Kim Jong-un could not possibly want a nuclear war. They’re missing the whole point.
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Wikkheiser posted:I didn't say that. I said North Korea wants left-wing nationalists in power in South Korea.
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if you defect to NK do they hook you up with nice stuff?
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rudatron posted:Is your assumption that left-wing guys are gonna be 'weak' and cave to north threats, or that they'll buy the bullshit juche rhetoric? Because either is kinda silly. According to the direct quote that's the North Korean assumption, that the inherent superiority of Juche Thought will conquer the hearts and minds of the South and wipe it from the map under communist direction. The South Korean Left wants reconciliation with the North, and an end to chaebol rule. Jose posted:if you defect to NK do they hook you up with nice stuff? Yes. The new policy is that defectors get some money and featured on North Korean television. They've also extended this to double-defectors, which is why lately there's been a few people who have gone back to the North. There's an American guy who defected to the North all the way back in the Korean War, and they've used him as a propaganda mouthpiece ever since. Gave him a wife, a decent apartment, and all the amenities. He even denies that the famine happened during the 90s, probably because they shielded him from it.
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But a confederation isn't going to go smoothly for the North, because it's the south has both the dominant economy and the better military - the north has simply shown itself more willing to put that military on display, but its army is only good 'on paper'. So if the confederation goes on NK's terms, it'll be entirely because of pressure from China, not juche or whatever
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In conclusion, DPRK good, juche even better
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