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Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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Nathilus posted:

I'm not just frontin' either. Everyone was legit cool and totally not stuck up at all. Kelsey himself had a very good relationship with everyone else on cast as well, so I was told. He just happened to not be there this specific time cuz he was off shooting somewhere.

The Saucer Hovers posted:

i always read that his personalty and narcotics additions led to quite a strain in his relations with his peers this is a nice counterpoint to hear

COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:

Can you say if it was it Down Periscope, The Pentagon Wars or Toy Story 2?

Okay, I have to tell my Kelsey Grammer story.

I've mentioned in other threads (the MilHist thread) that I was a curator on USS Pampanito, the submarine (a museum since WWII) used in Down Periscope.

Remember the scene when they're out in a storm and have to rig a light to the mast? Well, that scene was filmed early on, when the boat was still down at Fisherman’s Wharf. (It was towed to the North Bay for other scenes.) You can’t really see anything in the background due to the storm, and it was easier for them to bring in water for the rain.

The sub museum used to do Cub/Boy Scout tours and camping expeditions. They’d get a full tour, and some groups would spend a day or night on the sub. They’d set up watches, eat a meal cooked in the (still working) galley, etc. These trips were a lot of fun for the kids. We tried to re-schedule all of the groups that were supposed to have the boat during filming, but there was one group scheduled for a day on the boat, driving in from the Central Valley, that we couldn’t get ahold of.

So here’s how Hollywood films a “storm.” Remember how they were up on the periscope getting drenched with rain? Well, they can’t wait for a day when it rains. They make their own storm. With fire-hoses. You know you’re in for a bad time when they bring in multiple huge tanks full of water.

Ever been to San Francisco? It doesn’t snow there, but there’s a constant foggy, clammy cold in the air. It just bites through you.

Filming started just as it got dark. Kelsey Grammer and Duane Martin went up on that mast, exposed to the wind – and they just soaked them with the hoses. The first time they got hit with that water they almost fell off, even though they were lashed to the mast. That water was ice cold. They recovered, acted out the scene – cut.

And then they did it again. And again. And again. And again.

They filmed All. drat. Night.

Around midnight they let Grammer and Martin down, wrapped them up with towels, let them get inside into our only real building on the pier, a big toolshed, and gave them hot coffee. Half an hour later they were back up there tied to the masts, getting blasted with high pressure ice water.

And then they did it again. And again. And again. And again.

It was just miserable. Everyone who wasn’t with the film crew felt awful for them. The film crew didn’t care – “that’s why they make the big bucks, turn the hoses on 'em again.” Over and over and over. They stopped filming when the sun started to come up. They were just miserable, pale and shaking, soaked to the bone and freezing.

And then the Boy/Cub Scouts showed up.

They came down the pier, ready for their tour, and saw the filming. One of them saw Grammer, wretched and shivering, and said “it’s Frasier!” (This was the mid-90’s, when kids would recognize Frasier or know about the show Cheers.)

Now, by any reasonable standard Grammer should have waved and said something like hey, kids, good to see you and left. Or he could have ducked out entirely.

But he was such a pro that even though filming was done he stayed there and hung out with the kids. He told them stories about being an actor, cracked them up telling jokes, told them about Cheers and how he got into acting, you name it.

It was amazing. Again, there he was, hit by ice-cold fire-hoses all drat night, freezing cold and sleepless, but when it came time to tell jokes to the kids, there he was, goofing around with them, singing silly songs, giving them a great time. And not on camera, either. Everyone involved in filming was packing up and leaving, but he was there for the kids, and no one else would ever know he’d done it. He stayed with them for about two hours, them laughing the whole time, until they left to get their tour of the sub – and then he finally went and changed into dry clothes.

I have no doubt that the guy is a jackass, but I still have to respect for him for that.

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Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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The Experiment posted:

Yet Season 11 season had Ronee, one of the worst guest characters.

Compared to Daphne's family?!?

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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mojo1701a posted:

"Niles, you invited Thanos? There goes half our guest list!"

:perfect:

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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ScentOfAnOtaku posted:

Yeah, what a bitch. Standing up to Frasier to respect her as a person, easily the 9th worst thing she ever did.

A grown adult woman having control over her living space and personal life? Oh, no!

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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Rappaport posted:

Is this true? We see in the fire alarm episode that the hallway that has bedrooms has Frasier's, Marty's and that's about it. I don't think they show the hallway around Daphne's room, but there is an episode centered around it, and it seems to be a room weirdly on its own.

Now, Niles's apartment (can you believe he rents that thing?) has rooms a-plenty for guests, which is also the focus of a few episodes.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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All of Daphne's relatives in F.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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Were the Shangri La Apartments real after all?

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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codo27 posted:

I'll spoiler it I guess but some fundamental info about the reboot:


Its set in Boston, thats already been said. Freddie apparently has taken more after his grandfather, and Frasier has moved back to Boston after Martin's death to try and reconnect with his son, which is a prospect Freddie isn't all that interested in. Niles and Daphne's son has also followed Frasier to Boston.

There is a character who is a friend of Frasier who teaches at Harvard, as well as another who is head of said school's psych department and is trying to convince Frasier to teach there. There is a regular bar that is featured, called Mahoney's, which is a nice touch.


Still think it would be naive to get hopes up but I'm a little warmer to the idea after reading that bit of info.

Freddie is a cop who lives in a run-down house. The show opens with Frasier moving in and setting up his fancy Louis XIV armchair in the middle of the living room...

Okay, no, but that's what I'd do.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

- A Lot Lower Than That: Any member of Daphne's family.

- Even Lower: Frasier's Greek Relatives.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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It looks like a perfectly serviceable 90's sitcom.

Are sitcoms even a thing anymore? If you asked me to name a single sitcom currently running on network TV I don't think I could.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Frasieroullete is a streaming service that's free but requires you to make an account. The interface consists of one button that plays a random episode of Frasier. The catch? You must watch the episode it plays you, in its entirety, before you are allowed to watch another.

This is pretty much one of the channels on PlutoTV (a free streaming service).

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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It's not dire, but it's utterly unremarkable.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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Beefeater1980 posted:

I think your standards are different to mine. I’ve seen plenty of great TV in the last decade but nothing that’s just relentlessly good natured and also funny. That seems worthwhile.

I'll admit up front that I just don't watch network TV or sitcoms anymore, so I don't have a lot of alternatives to suggest.

But - maybe The Good Place? That might work.

And - don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the new Frasier is BAD or anything like that. It's just that when I watch it, it feels off somehow, like I'm watching a rerun of a late 80's sitcom; somehow the laugh track and the characters feel like they pre-date 90's Frasier.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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John Wick of Dogs posted:

They should tell Kelsey Grammar that he is in a reality show being filmed 24/7 in the style of a Frasier mockumentary but he has to improv due to the nature of it.

He already sort of was when I met him in the 90s. There was no line between Kelsey Grammar as a person and Frasier as a persona every time I interacted with him.

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Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

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At this point Grammer is like the weird uncle you only really see a couple of times per year. You really wish he'd change and stop making terrible choices, but he's still your uncle and you know he went through a lot of hard times when he was younger, so you don't really call him out like you probably should. If anything you're kind of relieved that he's still alive and not in prison after all the things he's done.

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