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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I would totally play Super Crane Bros.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I always felt that while you didn't need to be a rich bastard to laugh at Frasier, if you ARE rich, and especially in Seattle, you probably know someone like Frasier and/or Niles. And possibly Maris.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I just watched the episode where Frasier and Niles plan a dinner party. That's it. It is hilarious.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

ditty bout my clitty posted:

Nope, it's like 4 or 5

I just watched that one, season 6.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Daphne's psychic powers are back again, and enabling more hilariously terrible decisions!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I swear this isn't the only time Marty has the boys sing Goldfinger, but I have a terrible memory

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Bust Rodd posted:

I like the one where they ruin the dean’s christmas trying to get their son into the fancy school

And the dean eventually lets him in realising it's the only way he's ever going to be rid of them.

It's not much of a surprise Frasier and Lillith divorced and still get along, they enable each others' worst aspects.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Martin pretends to be gay on multiple occasions throughout the series, iirc. Everyone loves an old gay dude.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Kinda funny given iirc, that was a folksy steak place, which would now be trendy as all hell. Frasier and Niles were always somehow more old-fashioned than Martin in being snobby, before wealthy people started desperately trying to be relevant rather than exclusive.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Tumble posted:

I already made that observation earlier in this thread dammit!

But yea, it's not even that the restaurant is trying to be folksy that would make it insanely trendy in today's world, it's that it's in a re-purposed sawmill. That would be an insanely awesome place to put a steakhouse today.

That's probably what I was recalling, sorry. Similar point that it's almost a funny little period piece given how, ironically, Frasier and Niles could actually be ahead of the curve if they were a little more open-minded.

I feel they coulda done more with Niles and Daphne if they'd explored Daphne's personality and attitudes a bit more beyond 'has a hosed up childhood and family' and 'is middle class British'. Even her brother Simon has more interesting personality traits there than she does; interesting that he uses big fancy words, perhaps to appear smarter or to mock Frasier, but he always uses them correctly. (might go with how Roz and other Americans think he sounds classy)

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
They even made a joke about how much weight she'd lost after she had the baby.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
And apparently he was good friends with the producer that died in 9/11.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think not actually casting super old dudes to play super old dudes for ongoing series tends to be a good idea, because they y'know, die.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Solice Kirsk posted:

They had to bend both her and Niles' characters into knots to make them even remotely believable as a couple. Not to mention bending space time around them to make their former spouses the worst people ever so we wouldn't have to think what they did was terrible.

Though iirc, they were building up both of them as being a lot more screwed up than they seemed from their introductions, weren't they?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's outright said at some point that she's Maris all over again. (then again, Maris did seem like a more exaggerated female Niles as well)

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The argument between Frasier and King Dedede was brilliant, though.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

are you perhaps a jack russell terrier

Perhaps we're all a jack russel terrier dreaming as we stare at our owner's son.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
You can kinda see how Frasier and Roz get along despite their differences; she's smart and perceptive, and picks up a lot of what Frasier talks about, and he (usually) recognises that. And I think he likes how she doesn't take any of Niles' poo poo.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

FuhrerHat posted:

hi front desk? its mike from the laundry service... we've spoken before but my key doesnt seem to work... i think you know who i am... i invited you to my thanksgiving party...

...no its ok if you call my company while i wait in the vestibule... again...

Are you loving mad, you know what happens when the Crane boys go to a party

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

sudonim posted:

also I know people don't like kids on tv but I thought Freddy was generally pretty good and the spelling bee episode with him was dope

They seemed to be aware of how difficult it is to actually have kids on TV not be annoying, so not only is the show set up so that Freddy can drop in but isn't needed all the time, but put extra effort into his episodes so he contributes something every time he appears.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Can't they just do it off knives like normal people?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Wasn't everyone on Cheers on tons of cocaine?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
To be fair, I think he'd make a hilarious superhero. Not entirely sure who. Okay as Beast, I suppose. Reed Richards?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Either that or the long awaited crossover where they meet the disowned third Crane brother, Jonathan.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Frasier's dating life was enviable even by 90s sitcom protagonist standards, not that it stops him complaining. Remember the ep where he dates a startup's token businesswoman and ends up hanging out with the trophy wives?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The joke is that he is a psychiatrist with major brain problems

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I remember the early chair-replacing episode was in like, the first season or third, at most? Would make sense that as he's gotten used to living with Frasier, Marty becomes less insecure about his situation and willing to give change a try when it happens on his own terms.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Makes it look like Frasier is calling out Niles in the ring. I want to see this episode. And WWE's done weirder crossovers.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Looks like them Crane boys are in trouble again

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Cosmik Slop posted:

Her psychic abilities let her know that the whole thing really was an understanding. She let Frasier think she was outraged so she could make out like a bandit later.

Psychic abilities probably meaning casual observation, also being pretty overpaid to basically be a live in maid.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

a hot gujju bhabhi posted:

Given the number of shows and movies that inexplicably cast mid to late 20s actors as high school students, I think she's fine

Probably not so inexplicable given the can of worms and red tape you get from casting actual teenagers.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I can believe after growing up with Niles, Frasier relishes the chance to not care about food hygiene obsessively.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Who's the Frasier and who's the Niles, though? And who embarrasses who in front of the wizards?

If Frasier is Tony, is the radio station the Avengers?

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
hung specialist

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Bust Rodd posted:

Can anyone with a brother way in on whether you'd ever be able to cope with your brother loving your ex-wife/mother of your child? I kind of feel like "No, it would probably be the last time we ever spoke, if either of us survived the fight" but then again we've never ever come close to something like this. I kinda hooked up with the girl he lost his virginity but we were all friends, and in college i tried to get this girl to sleep with me and my girlfriend and she ended up loving my brother a few days later, but both of those were basically immediately water under the bridge non-issues.

Please, married goons with brothers, is this realistic? And how awkward do you think Niles made every subsequent gathering after that?

Given their... entire life history between them, I think they're both quite well equipped to deal with awkwardness.



It seems like it's hard to draw a recognisable caricature of Frasier.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Sounding like Wesley Snipes.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I think season 8 is where I was up to when I started losing interest. Probably could use an episode guide from here on.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Brawnfire posted:

They should have had several episodes with Frasier and Niles' criminal Russian branch of the family.

Now I want to see Russian Frasier.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

New Concept Hole posted:

LE SAUCER VOLANT

Seems redundant given the original UFOs were described as giant cigar-shaped objects

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