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wicka posted:I don't think it'd be that hard for a competent organization to show up and produce a decent engine in year one. And yet here we have Honda scaring away all potential manufacturers. And McLaren signed a contract to 2024.* loving lol. * yes, I know any contract can be broken but they had Mercedes engines and jumped for Honda who hadn't been involved since the early 90s for gently caress's sake.
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wicka posted:It was still unquestionably the right decision given the information they had at the time. Finding a new manufacturer partner in an era that's heavily tilted toward manufacturers, and one that was willing to invest hundreds of millions of dollars, was a huge coup. No one could've foreseen how bad Honda would be. By your own admission and the rules there was absolutely no way Honda could've been competitive given the development rules and the fact they were starting from scratch and who they were competing with (i.e. existing and competing manufacturers). It was a great coup for nostalgia, but in reality Mercedes had a 2 year head start. Hell, for all the poo poo Red Bull gave Renault they were still way ahead of the curve compared to Honda.
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GramCracker posted:Dear god, please don't Too late. 
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wicka posted:Yeah, no, I didn't say that. Everyone knew there'd be a learning curve, no one knew they'd be grossly incompetent four years later. You are grossly underestimating the importance of being a manufacturer team. Well yeah, you did. There's no way Honda had the legal wiggle room to develop their power units to be even remotely competitive - competency aside. The question is whether or not McLaren would've been financially better off by being a second placed customer team to a works team or with whatever payoff they're getting from Honda for being a former powerhouse relegated to a midfield laughing stock. GramCracker posted:Lmbo you sonnovabitch <3 Theophany fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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wicka posted:I literally didn't, don't be this guy. Sure, ok, well it's easier to be critical in hindsight. I was really excited about a McLaren Honda partnership when it was announced, but when you have two former WDCs and objectively poo poo hot drivers and you're cruising in the midfield there has to be a point at which you think "we done screwed up". The fact they're still with Honda this far in boggles the mind, whatever financial backing they bring to the table. I'd have been on my knees begging for Mercedes to supply engines by Melbourne last season.
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:I have an Audi TT roadster 180, 5v turbo 1.8l. Perfect for country roads Noice. I dont have a drop top, so I have to rely on dropping the windows when I approach a tunnel to get a load on. wicka posted:Again - is it better to try to win and fail, or to give up on winning entirely and accept mediocrity? McLaren are not going to rise to the heights they once were as a Mercedes customer, that's just a fact. I seriously doubt any new manufacturers are coming into the sport. So why would they do anything other than stick with Honda, unless their very existence is on the line? And lord knows we're nowhere near that point yet, especially now that Brown (maybe Boullier?) has heavily hinted that Ojjeh and the Bahrainis are willing to inject cash into the team. Yeah, I get what you mean. It's tough because McLaren have been a traditional 'privateer' team. If only they could harness the developments of their road car division. I get the impression that they could build at least as good as Honda at this point and would probably be a better branding opportunity, but provide nowhere near as much financial backing.
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gret posted:So Giovinazzi is stepping in for Wehrlein for the rest of the weekend. Ok I'm loving waking up now. I love that little Italian jockey.
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Mar 25, 2017 05:53
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loving Sky Sports F1 is hosed on NowTV for some reason.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:02
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learnincurve posted:Morning all. It's being shown on Sky sports 1 as well. Thundercunts.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:06
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Martin Brundle's ballsack is bursting out of his chinos. Here we go Sky Sports.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:14
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learnincurve posted:I thought a crash had happened turns out Whirrline isn't fit enough to drive the new cars. He wasn't fit enough to drive the old ones.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:15
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Pay Symonds: That is a spring. Top quality insight. Cheers dude.
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learnincurve posted:I have never seen the pit lane that full with people, liberty must have drastically increased the number of paddock passes or way more people have bought them than usual. Yeah it looks absolutely rammed in there. That can only be a positive sign for interest in F1.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:34
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learnincurve posted:I will grudgingly admit that Lewis' hair actually looks good in this interview and less like someone glued road kill to his head. Looks like he's had a hair transplant? Bit being disparaging, I'm considering it myself.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:38
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Carth Dookie posted:Accept your fate chrome dome. 
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Mar 25, 2017 06:44
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Carth Dookie posted:Post the cue ball. It's a full head of hair, just the V of my widows peak is more of a W. Pathetic vanity really.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:48
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1500quidporsche posted:Christ how much of a loving cheque does Red Bull cut Sky for the non-stop handjobs?  Man it must loving suck to be on Stroll's mechanic team this year. Those guys are going to be working non-stop rebuilding those wrecks.
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Mar 25, 2017 06:53
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Right, let's see what the actual pecking order is this year. No more shenanigans.
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Mar 25, 2017 07:00
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1500quidporsche posted:Gotta wait till Q2 for that mate. Good point: let's see how poo poo McLaren really are then!
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mclaren E: 1500quid, you called it brother. I think these V6 engine noises have developed their own character. They're growing on me. Unlike my hair. Theophany fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Mar 25, 2017 07:09
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Merc 1 sec ahead. My finger is on the trigger.Carth Dookie posted:Lance Stroll is 18th and slowest. "There can be only one... at the back"
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Mar 25, 2017 07:14
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Come on, piss it down. Let's see Nando in Q3 so we can all suck a poo poo for mocking McLollen.
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Mar 25, 2017 07:29
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Norns posted:Stroll might possibly be the worst driver of the modern era. Nah, that's Max Chilton.
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Mar 25, 2017 07:35
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Or Will Stevens.
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Mar 25, 2017 07:36
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Vettel possibly sandbagging in Q2. Oh bring on Q3 baby!
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Mar 25, 2017 07:44
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1500quidporsche posted:Palmer being classy by trashing the car. What a loving babby.
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Mar 25, 2017 07:46
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all-Rush mixtape posted:You guys are only now getting the Sir Jackie Stewart with a CGI body ad? Only bonus of Sky F1 - no ads.
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3 tenths. Holy gently caress. Lol @ the Bogan
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Mar 25, 2017 07:53
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Man the speed that Red Bull was carrying when t lost grip. Must be pretty scary in fairness to Ricky Bobby.
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Mar 25, 2017 07:54
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Sky F1 commentary team ripping Horner. Also, the only team principal who has time to shoot the poo poo with a commentary team... says a lot.
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1500quidporsche posted:It's been overwhelmingly Christian Horner. He's more a PR rent-a-gob than a team principal tbh
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Mar 25, 2017 08:08
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Noice Seb
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poo poo I don't want to count chickens or anything but hell this season might not actually be a snooze fest
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1500quidporsche posted:I hope he gets a full time seat next year, if he doesn't that's criminal. Agreed.
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somebody on Facebook posted:Australia is not real. It's a hoax, made for us to believe that Britain moved over their criminals to someplace. In reality, all these criminals were loaded off the ships into the waters, drowning before they could see land ever again. It's a coverup for one of the greatest mass murders in history, made by one of the most prominent empires. Shame, I thought that quali was good too.
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Mar 25, 2017 08:23
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Palmer was over 107%. Good lord he is a loving duffer.
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Thanks Ants posted:Beautiful whinging afterwards as well Yeah that was some pretty top drawer bitching. I wonder how much money Stroll brings to Williams and whether or not Claire did her maths correctly. If the little tyke writes off a car each race weekend, what is the net income he brings?
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Khablam posted:Torn between hyping over ferrari or predicting they'll gently caress it up and remain failarri Strategy kings 
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wicka posted:Grosjean seems like he was born to be a Ferrari driver. He is his generation's Jean Alesi.
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