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EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
So Circuit Gilles Villeneuve took out the Wall of Champions, it's just a tire barrier now. Qualifying is going to be really boring.

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EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Norns posted:

What the gently caress?


First thing in this video shows the new setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQfEfi_jRk

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Carth Dookie posted:

The time is amazing but the on board actually looks so bland.

Being super tidy really benefits these cars. Any sort of off line movement means less ability to put power down on the road. The wider tires means 'hunting' in the corner for the right line is much more punishing towards apex speed. More speed is more aero is more downforce = the smoother and faster your approach to a corner, the harder you can take it and the sooner you can power out of it.

The 2017 spec favours Lewis's driving style more than the 2016 cars did, and if Merc can solve the tire heating/performance/wear issue, you can expect him to start driving away again.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

You Am I posted:

Just watching the highlights, if drivers are having so many troubles with brakes I won't be surprised if half the field doesn't crash out before the end of the race.

Hopefully Max will do that, so Are Dan gets the win.

Also see that the Red Bulls have gone for the t-piece, even though Horner had a whinge about them at the start of the season.

Nah, we saw this last year. FPx is when drivers can push the braking points to the limit without any real risk, and all of them like to know where the edge is and what the car feels like when it gets to that edge.

We've seen it a bunch of times in other races where a driver will be late braking a turn again and again in FP, but never miss it at all in qualifying or the race. It's just finding the limit and gathering data.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
WTF with Hulkenberg. That new floor is amazing or he really pulled his finger out.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

The read between the lines here is that both Merc and Ferrari would sell McLaren engines (F1 rules require them to sell to any team that does not have another engine supplier) but that neither of them were willing to budge on price, which pretty much kibosh's any deal, as the list for an engine is far more than any team can sustain over the needs of a season.

Honda is providing the engines and a whole bunch of cash. McLaren F1 don't have enough income on their own to survive as a top tier team. They need a partner, not a supplier.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

NtotheTC posted:

I get this thing where I get a headache if I'm focused on the middle distance but there's an object in the near distance that my eyes flick over and try to focus on it, like if I'm wearing my glasses and there's a spot on them or something.

I feel like the halo would be exactly that but at 200mph.

The halo ring, at least on the prototype, was too far up for the driver to see above the helmets visor slot during normal driving conditions (Lewis watching the TV's around the track doesn't count).

The center 'pillar' of the halo that extends down to the chassis was visible, but drivers tend to ignore stuff in that 'directly ahead' plane of view already. With the halo no mandated, I suspect that pillar will be reduced a bit, and a bunch of the sutff currently on the chassis ahead of it (antennas, air flow sensor, etc) will migrate to the halo pillar or halo ring.

I do hope FIA thinks to mount a camera or two on the halo, it's got great positioning for them. In future, a set of cameras around the outside could be used to create a 'panable' view for viewers to follow any sort of passing or side-by-side action.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

1500quidporsche posted:

Everybody is running to FE because it's cheap, which means it'll collapse in 3 years time because all the manufacturers left and nobody can afford it.

FormulaE has a tech sharing agreement. Even if you fail miserably on the track, you still get data from all the other cars. This is invaluable, and you can't get it anywhere but FormulaE. Expect FormulaE to peak as a series pretty quickly. Only if battery tech kept jumping forward every few years would the series stay relevant.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
First 3 rows, one half second.

This is the best of F1. Except for the race where Mercedes will drive away and Ferrari will gently caress up their strategy

EoRaptor fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Jul 29, 2017

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I feel bad for Leclerc, he clearly has the ability to replace Kimi, but Vettel can't stand the idea of being shown up by his teammate, and has it out for him. Good years of his career are going to be wasted in F2 or a midfield F1 team waiting for a top tier slot open up, unless he can get lucky and jump the queue into another manufacturer driver track.

If Ferrari can get Vettel to accept him in 2018, I'll be amazed, and watching for the inevitable infighting and ferrari team self destruction.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Wirth1000 posted:

Sergio Marchionne literally referred to Sauber as their junior team now after the new Ferrari deal was signed. Which means Pascal Wehrlein, the Merc junior, is gonna have to look elsewhere since Marcus Ericcsson's financial backers also happen to be the people that actually own Sauber now.

Leclerc - Ericsson unless the new team principal can convince Longbow that a Leclerc - Wehrlein combo is actually most beneficial vs. running Marcus.

I'd take Leclerc at Sauber if it means we never have to see Wehrlein again. He'd probably land at Williams to replace Stroll or maybe Massa.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I don't think this has been posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMyiKmG1flk

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Someone did some neat animations of how the 2017 changes actually impact the speed of an F1 car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIjRZ8aNy4I

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

I'm the under inflated, badly photoshopped basketball.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Get me this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xQZP1AInPA in HD or better resolution during a race and I'd sign up for whatever stream F1 offered.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

GramCracker posted:

You ever think that Mercedes held back the potential of their car to mess with Ferrari a bit and then just turn the fucker right back up a few races into the season?

Not in the slightest. Mercedes essentially skipped the 2017 tire testing, and had huge problems getting the tires to work for them in the early season, needing to build up tire performance data, then go back to the shop and adjust the car to produce better results around the tires working temps and abilities. The season kept passing as this was happening, and they have finally caught up now, resuming their dominant position.

The big tell for this is that Mercedes is all hands on deck for the upcoming 2018 tire test, making sure both their drivers generate data for them to engineer around. Hamilton might be 'vounteering' but only in the sense that Mercedes has told him how badly it hurt his performance when he skipped 2017 testing and he doesn't want to face that again.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

GramCracker posted:

So what the gently caress just happened? Saint to Renault and McLaren get Renault motors?

Sainz, and so it seems. Honda moves to Toro Rosso.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Formula 1 keeps on showing they are paying attention to what fans are talking about : Classic Kubica

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Max getting mocked by his team once again, given two left gloves.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

SulphagneSocialist posted:

Holy poo poo. Holy poo poo!

Seems it's actually the same company that managed Rossberg, that Nico is now working directly for. Kubicas current manager is also staying on, so this might be more about managing accessory stuff (PR, merch deals, hotel booking, travel, insurance, etc) and not dealing directly between team and driver.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Singapore staying on the calendar: 2018-2021

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

learnincurve posted:

There was a really awkward and short interview with Palmer who seems not to be a happy bunny.

If he ever thought a pay driver would have any staying power at a manufacturer team then he's an idiot and a fool.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
They implemented a panning camera on the engine air intake mounts, and then put it on Strolls car. :thunk:

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
They've been scrubbing oil off the track, and it looks like they finally cleaned the line right at the end of Q1.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Wirth1000 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhM_04gQQkk

Race start is going to be chaos the track looks way slippery than I remember it.

A porsche cup race before qualifying had a car dump oil all over the track. It got better as qualifying ran, but getting even slightly off line would put you back in the concrete dust.

iospace posted:

Did they repave a lot of sections this year or no?

Two corners and one of the short straights got resurfaced. I forget which ones.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
It is bucketing down. Somebody make a wet start bingo so we can whine along.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Welp, that was the dumbest poo poo all season.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Alonso seems to have lost battery power, and that's the end for his race.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

learnincurve posted:

crofty just called massa, Ocon, k-mag "a titanic scrap"

It did turn out pretty exciting.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Sainz showing well, though he's a bit squirly in some corners. I suspect the switch to dry tires will see him fall back again, though.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Wehrlein can eat a bag of dicks. Give your seat to someone who still has the will to race.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Sainz on super softs is going to fall down the order, I think.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Powershift posted:

Wehrlein only 2 cars away from winning a point through attrition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqw6yRlWc2c

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydd38p2pm9s

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Wirth1000 posted:

hahaha Horner is refusing to blame Vettel calling it a racing incident

Horner is always really careful not to bait the stewards. Seems to be a team decision, as even Max is more careful about it now.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

DoctorGonzo posted:

Wait Vettel ruined his gearbox on the Crash?

For fucks sake

Yeah, the gearbox, differential, and drive shafts are all part of the same assembly. To much force on the drive shafts and the whole guts of the thing chews itself up.

I think this is why Vettel took the steering wheel. When it's not fixed on the car, the force neutral button doesn't work, and the marshals can't try to push the car around with a potentially compromised gearbox. Makes the lift to the recovery truck the only option, which is safer for the car.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

iospace posted:

I will laugh if they both get a seat and Stroll gets punted, to be honest.

Nah, Williams needs the money a pay driver brings, and Stroll has risen to the level of 'not embarrassing', so he'll probably stay.

I do think Massa should go, his best days are clearly behind him. It was starting to get noticeable towards the end of last year, but it's running towards becoming obvious, and going out on a low note isn't what I want for the guy. He had a great retirement, and I wish it could have stuck.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Why do they keep showing shots of Lewis adjusting his junk? This is the third or fourth race this year where they've done it.

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Halo14 posted:

Yay Nando into Q3

Not that it makes any difference at all.

You mean last?

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EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Stroll taking a stroll.

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