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Dreddout posted:Also this No war but the culture war.
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Okay but now what's the racial breakdown
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resar posted:No war but the culture war. Uh.... no they're cool with the drug war and foreign wars too
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Mar 23, 2017 19:01
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gobbagool posted:I guess if your sole concern is where your country ranks on a health survey, and nothing else matters, then yeah, you should break your way into cuba. I imagine there's plenty of rafts in south florida from people (obviously employing double plus wrongthink) who came the other way u have a lot of dumb ideas my dude for example, Cuba is under an embargo and still has a higher standard of living than most of the Caribbean. http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/15/why-sanders-is-right-about-cuba/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/jan/22/cuba-communism-human-rights but you know listening to a bunch of parasites whining about Castro is the best source for truth bombs against naive commies       capitalism is a cancer on the world and most people given the choice want more equality and social support over living in a social darwinist hellhole.
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Mar 23, 2017 19:48
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Goddamn that is so badass, just loving taking US corporation's poo poo like that. Why should people in poor areas just watch their resources be extracted away?
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Mar 23, 2017 20:10
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call to action posted:Goddamn that is so badass, just loving taking US corporation's poo poo like that. Why should people in poor areas just watch their resources be extracted away? So economic interaction with the US is bad, and should be discouraged. But cuba's terrible standard of living is the fault of the US for refusing to interact economically with cuba, and the embargo is evil. It's almost like you're going to reflexively complain no matter what the US does!
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Mar 23, 2017 20:14
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gobbagool posted:So economic interaction with the US is bad, and should be discouraged. But cuba's terrible standard of living is the fault of the US for refusing to interact economically with cuba, and the embargo is evil. It's almost like you're going to reflexively complain no matter what the US does! quote where I said that
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Mar 23, 2017 20:15
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Top City Homo posted:u have a lot of dumb ideas my dude So what's stopping people from moving to socialist paradises like Cuba? I mean, besides the horrifically oppressive government and abject poverty for the vast majority of people there that aren't communist party officials. Everyone is equal, just some are more equal than others, comrade. None of you can ever explain why people put their lives on the line to escape Cuba, the rafts never went the other way. I'm sure the eternal science of marxism has the answer though
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Mar 23, 2017 20:22
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GlyphGryph posted:Okay but now what's the racial breakdown turns out poor people are overwhelmingly non-white who'd have thought kinda funny that so much attention is being paid to poor whites even though there are so many more poor non-whites
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Mar 23, 2017 20:25
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call to action posted:quote where I said that you spent like 5 posts earlier extolling the virtues of cuba and how much better it is than the US. i mean, if you're trolling, fine, but i have you pegged more for garden variety che tshirt wearing idiot than troll
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gobbagool posted:you spent like 5 posts earlier extolling the virtues of cuba and how much better it is than the US. i mean, if you're trolling, fine, but i have you pegged more for garden variety che tshirt wearing idiot than troll Having corporations siphon the profits out of their operations in your country to their country is technically "economic interaction" but it is literally extracting resources from your own country to profit a foreign capitalist class.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Having corporations siphon the profits out of their operations in your country to their country is technically "economic interaction" but it is literally extracting resources from your own country to profit a foreign capitalist class. so then it was good when the US stopped doing that to cuba, right?
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Mar 23, 2017 20:40
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gobbagool posted:you spent like 5 posts earlier extolling the virtues of cuba and how much better it is than the US. i mean, if you're trolling, fine, but i have you pegged more for garden variety che tshirt wearing idiot than troll gobbagool posted:you spent like 5 posts earlier extolling the virtues of cuba and how much better it is than the US. i mean, if you're trolling, fine, but i have you pegged more for garden variety che tshirt wearing idiot than troll How long until you are just pretending to be retarded?
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Mar 23, 2017 20:44
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gobbagool posted:so then it was good when the US stopped doing that to cuba, right? the US didn't "stop doing that to cuba" lol they tried to embargo cuba on food and supplies to try and kill Cubans because we were mad they overthrew the brutal dictator we installed
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Mar 23, 2017 20:46
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haiti has been firmly in the US sphere serving us corporate interests and that's turned out a lot worse for its citizens than cuba like other poor countries in the US sphere
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Mar 23, 2017 20:51
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gobbagool posted:so then it was good when the US stopped doing that to cuba, right? It's good when imperialist exploitation stops. It's bad when trade is embargoed because you're butthurt about corporations losing their properties.
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Mar 23, 2017 20:52
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Fiction posted:the US didn't "stop doing that to cuba" lol they tried to embargo cuba on food and supplies to try and kill Cubans because we were mad they overthrew the brutal dictator we installed So it was good when the mighty castro kicked out the evil US. Good to know you're a fan of the things he did.
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Mar 23, 2017 21:03
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gobbagool posted:So it was good when the mighty castro kicked out the evil US. Good to know you're a fan of the things he did. i am a critical fan of castro for liberating his people from US imperialism even if he did some hosed up poo poo, yeah.
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Mar 23, 2017 21:10
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Fiction posted:i am a critical fan of castro for liberating his people from US imperialism even if he did some hosed up poo poo, yeah. do you agree with village idiot calltoaction that Cuba is a superior place to the US for the average person to live?
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Mar 23, 2017 21:26
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gobbagool posted:do you agree with village idiot calltoaction that Cuba is a superior place to the US for the average person to live? well no because they don't have superprofits extracted from the exploitation of weaker countries but they managed to have a better health care system than us despite that lol
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Mar 23, 2017 21:28
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Fiction posted:well no because they don't have superprofits extracted from the exploitation of weaker countries but they managed to have a better health care system than us despite that lol who needs other human freedoms when you can live your soul crushing existence out in good health
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Mar 23, 2017 21:43
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the cherished human freedom of medical bankruptcy
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Mar 23, 2017 21:54
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My cherished human freedom to own a sugar plantation
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Mar 23, 2017 22:16
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The cherished human freedom of having the press propagandize at me liberally instead of communistly.
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Mar 23, 2017 22:34
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You know that dude got told on the reg growing up about how loving tits life was running the poo poo out of that sweet rear end silver mine before the socialists came and took it all away. Like, who isn't gonna have a chip on their shoulder when they get told the stories about being descended from a select group of island capitalist elites that collectively had access to 50 billion in wealth while you're a regular old lovely modern american capitalist doing uber on the weekends because the graphic design job just aint making ends meet, hoping one day it's all going to come together if you just keep plugging away. That's not condescension or sarcasm either; I get it.
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Mar 23, 2017 22:45
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Please, for the love of God, nobody send me to Cuba where the brutal Castro regime will force me to live out the rest of my days smoking cigars on the beach.
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Mar 23, 2017 22:57
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if you haven't done so I suggest reading the Caribbean and South American country chapters in Killing Hope before you criticize Castro again to have some understanding of the actual historical context
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I was just curious how the economy of Cuba compares to its neighbors So I used the world bank website to plot a few of them out. Top: GDP per capita, PPP (constant international $); Bottom: GDP per capita (current US$) Sorry it's kind of small, looks like I messed it up when cropping the image, for a better look you can go to the website here: http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD?end=2013&locations=CU-JM-DO-HT-S3&name_desc=true&start=1970&view=chart and download the data or w/e. At a glance Cuba is on top of the PPP graph and is fairly similar to the other large islands. Trinidad and Tobago is the richest sovereign state in the Caribbean, relying on industrial exports and oil production, and Haiti is the poorest. I'm surprised Cuba has managed to maintain decent economic growth since the late 1990s, I guess the growth of tourism managed to make up for the loss of the USSR as a trading partner. Will be interesting to see how they change in the future!
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gobbagool posted:so when are you leaving for Cuba? Is your health your primary concern or not? If i didnt know better, I'd say you're just a contrarian marxist dipshit, but I mean that in the nicest possible way. If you think people are too stupid to make their own decisions, no wonder you're a totalitarian fanboy. i have a secret for you: you live in a totalitarian society  http://6abc.com/society/chick-fil-a-employee-still-working-after-accident/1653034/ 
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Lastgirl posted:lol D&D what are you doing so simple!
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gobbagool posted:So what's stopping people from moving to socialist paradises like Cuba? I mean, besides the horrifically oppressive government and abject poverty for the vast majority of people there that aren't communist party officials. Everyone is equal, just some are more equal than others, comrade. None of you can ever explain why people put their lives on the line to escape Cuba, the rafts never went the other way. I'm sure the eternal science of marxism has the answer though its cause kulaks deserved it friend castro did nothing wrong
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Main Paineframe posted:turns out poor people are overwhelmingly non-white and yet when i argued for economic justice during the election, i was told it wouldn't help PoC frequently
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Mar 25, 2017 02:12
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no poors on the  web site
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Man Musk posted:no poors on the We're not just poors, we're the dumbest poors. Ten dollars for a special website? Finally a luxury I can afford! *spends money, has horrible time* Hm, well, better just stick with for decades while it slowly drives me insane.
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Mar 25, 2017 16:59
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This is the Republican Party of cantankerous humor forums.
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Mar 25, 2017 17:02
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Top City Homo posted:its cause kulaks deserved it friend pol pot was a good boy
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Condiv posted:and yet when i argued for economic justice during the election, i was told it wouldn't help PoC frequently well, that's stupid. either that, or you're stupid probably both
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cuba owNS
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Main Paineframe posted:well, that's stupid. either that, or you're stupid a lot of people went stupid during the election, cause they had to rationalize voting for abuela and 90% of her policies were loving dumb
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Syllables posted:pol pot was a good boy actually he was a cia backed goon http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/10/16/who-supported-the-khmer-rouge/
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