Why do liberals hate poor people now?

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Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
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FuzzySkinner posted:

It's gotten so bad that even my dittohead father has now fully embraced elements of "New deal" leftism. I've heard him bitch about how corrupt the banks are, how we need to invest in infastructure spending...all of this.

But they keep putting their heads in the sand, and ignoring these people. They don't matter to them. They bailed out wall street and gave the finger to main street. They get to go back to their white upper class neighborhoods, or gentrified neighborhoods, then look down at everyone else that doesn't share their sesame street version of "diversity".

something I thought of

Obama took Andrew Jackson from the $20 last year

Trump (prob at Bannon's behest) layed the wreath at Jackson's tomb and tweeted about him and put his portrait in the oval office

there's prob no better symbolism for the way democrats gave up their original core identity as anti-bank, anti-northeastern elite populists with its core constituents in the south and midwest than this

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Typo: Aug 19, 2009; Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
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FuzzySkinner posted:

i know his background kinda contradicts this, but when's the last time you've heard a Dem champion FDR and his legacy?

I was gonna say bernie but then I remembered that he's not a democrat

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 20:36

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Iron Twinkie posted:

The modern Democrats desperately, DESPERATELY want to be the party of Wealthy, Socially Conscious, Smart, Respectable Republicans.

they are stuck in the 1990s

democrats of a certain age have still not gotten over the trauma of Reagan and Nixon destroying the new deal coalition

# ¿ Mar 31, 2017 23:44

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Azathoth posted:

FDR, for all his faults, is as close as Democrats have right now to a Ronald Reagan figure, and I've never understood why they don't do more to talk about being his inheritors in the same way that Republicans talk about being the party of Lincoln and Reagan.

I've thought for a while that Democrats could get a lot of traction nationwide with a set of policies that intentionally hearken back to FDR's Four Freedoms:

Freedom of Speech - Even if Trump disagrees with you
Freedom of Worship - But not just for Christians
Freedom from Want - The 1% shouldn't live the good life while others suffer
Freedom from Fear - But not just for white folks

It's a coherent message that has relevancy today, while having historical resonance, but I doubt it'd get play inside their messaging shops. Democrats have been utterly incompetent at messaging for as long as I've been alive, I don't know why I think they'll suddenly figure it out now.

FDR changed America a lot more than Reagan, Reagan ultimately only succeed in tweaking the core of the new deal, social security and the administrative state, at the margins.

But FDR message failed 35 years after he died, because by 1980 it was no longer Roosevelt's America

And we are just getting to the point when we are no longer in Reagan's America

# ¿ Apr 1, 2017 05:38

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SimonCat posted:

Not sure what you're getting at here.

it's a south park reference i think

# ¿ May 1, 2017 19:49

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