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So are Gobbagool and Painframe just dropping by to be avatars of exactly what the thread is about, or...
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gobbagool posted:huh? where did I say that? my point is that no system of human interaction is immune from interhuman relationships and influence. any system or philosophy that states otherwise is the most idiotic sort of contrarianism. For example: "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need" which is a swell idea but has never happened anywhere ever outside of pener's anime D&D is that way, duder.
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Mar 22, 2017 17:44
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TrixRabbi posted:Another piece of it is that liberal trends, both culturally and politically, are driven from the media and personalities coming out of the major cities (mostly New York), meaning you have a group of influencers who have likely grown up upper or upper-middle class and urban, and who have been trained to look down on poor rural communities as hicks through decades of classism, media stereotypes, and insider Democrat groupthink. They themselves are a dangerously small group with immense power to alter the narrative, which is how you end up with insanity like Hamilton being the most important cultural moment of the year (that almost nobody has been able to actually see) and Lena Dunham being thought of as a valuable surrogate with a wide fanbase -- poo poo that could only come from the most insulated people with no sense for the outside world at all. I think this is a pretty good summary.
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Mar 22, 2017 18:21
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gobbagool posted:yeah sorry kind of a wordy way of saying...communists, especially of the anime internet variety, seem overly fond of pointing out the flaws in capitalism while refusing to acknowledge their system sucks even worse, but for the exact same reason, which is the human beings will almost always do the wrong thing if it means helping out a friend or otherwise connected associate, be it done under the banner of Adam Smith or Vladimir Illyich Lenin. Pener, as someone who claims to have a history degree, should be able to acknowledge this, or alternatively, provide an example to the contrary from the vast number of successful communist societies. Here's on C-SPAM we're advocates of the Gay Weed branch of Full Socialism Now, actually.
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Mar 22, 2017 19:12
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It's me, the guy who is incapable of differentiating between caring about workers rights and desiring a viable social safety net and literally being Karl Marx.
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Mar 22, 2017 20:58
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gobbagool posted:so the heart of your anger at capitalism is that you're bad at it, noted 
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comedyblissoption posted:npr is a neoliberal shithole that pushed some anti-sanders messaging during the primaries. they only covered sanders from the context of a horse race and not from the context of what policies will benefit americans. theyre currently on the russia hysteria bandwagon. im glad other people call 'em out for what they are because im sick of the insufferable attitude of people who listen to that station as if it's an unbiased or decent news network. NPR's news lost me around early February last year. It makes sense, they're much more dependent on corporate funding than they used to be and their target demographic is middle aged upper middle class people. But it just got too insufferable.
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