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Dirk the Average posted:Quick question because I haven't gone this far through the base game - but why on earth are you killing both heads in a fight where the boss regenerates them? I get that you want to kill one, but from a lot of fights in that era, it was super common for the strategy to be to kill one of the two regenerating things and then kill the main boss so that it wouldn't regenerate them both. It also means that you're pouring literally thousands of damage into a target that isn't the main boss. In the base game the regeneration does not happen consistently - it's a common fiat for the regeneration to happen only once or twice in games like this. That was the assumption we were operating under for the first phase of this fight. As you'll see later, I noticed the pattern after the second regeneration and confirmed it on the third.
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Seconding Coolguye on Aura Ball, I went and checked and on the first attempt against Zable Fahr Hawk definitely did NOT have Aura Ball as a spell.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 05:58 |
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On a scale of 1 - Dolan, how much are you looking forward to this.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 06:06 |
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Omnicrom posted:Seconding Coolguye on Aura Ball, I went and checked and on the first attempt against Zable Fahr Hawk definitely did NOT have Aura Ball as a spell. Looking at Hawk's Wanderer skill set, it looks to be that he learns Energy Ball at 21 Spirit, which, looking at the previous two episodes, seems to have happened during off screen grinding Wanderer: 27/31/30/29/30/32 --Arrows (phys), Sleep Flower* (16 INT), Body Change* (17 INT), Poison Bubble (Tree, 18 INT), Lunatic (19 INT), Anti-Magic (20 INT), Transshape (16 PIE), Life Booster (17 PIE), Aura Wave (18 PIE), Half Vanish (19 PIE), Mind Up (20 PIE), Energy Ball (21 PIE)
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 06:58 |
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Zenithe posted:On a scale of 1 - Dolan, how much are you looking forward to this. Unlike Dolan, there's a couple of really cool moments in this marathon of murder and one hell of an ending. Dolan just left me feeling drained and defeated even after we won. That is not the case here.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 07:21 |
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Coolguye posted:In the base game the regeneration does not happen consistently - it's a common fiat for the regeneration to happen only once or twice in games like this. That was the assumption we were operating under for the first phase of this fight. To second this, in the base game Zabl Fahr's regeneration happens about twice for most parties and isn't instant. Usually you have a good amount of time beating on her before the heads come back. Zenithe posted:On a scale of 1 - Dolan, how much are you looking forward to this. We lost to Dolan because of weird timing and bugs, there are no bugs with this fight like, so it's nowhere near as bad.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 15:33 |
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I always thought that Regeneration just never happened unless you killed both of them, but I suppose in the base game it's not a problem to just keep them all alive and focus on the center, so I never really dabbled in it.
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# ? Sep 26, 2017 18:30 |
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I rather enjoy the fact that you are literally throwing money at Zable Fahr in order to win. You spent lots of gold to get coins of light, which you are then chucking as hard as you can (judging by Angela's item use animation) at the magic head.
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 08:05 |
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Episode 58: We Couldn't Have Known
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 20:28 |
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This fuckin fight
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# ? Sep 27, 2017 23:27 |
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Is this the episode where I did long multiplication I can't watch it right now
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# ? Sep 28, 2017 01:02 |
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Yes, it was very long, good job.
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# ? Sep 28, 2017 01:05 |
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Hey there! One of my first posts in SA, been reading this from the beginning! You guys ... I wince a lot when I watch you yeah, but your voices rock! I still really enjoy watching you for strategies on what to do for Bosses etc.
I Like Swords! Kronoan fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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Episode 59: Praetarius What the Hell Was That
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# ? Sep 29, 2017 23:46 |
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Congratulations!... I think.
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# ? Sep 30, 2017 01:06 |
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FLEXIN
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# ? Sep 30, 2017 03:36 |
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I love how annoyed Praetarius is with us in the comments over how long it took us to figure out what was going on.
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# ? Sep 30, 2017 12:23 |
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Episode 60: What?
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# ? Oct 2, 2017 22:40 |
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: What
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# ? Oct 2, 2017 22:42 |
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Ahaha holy poo poo Ancient 2. Because yes, there needs to be something beyond Ancient.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 00:28 |
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I'll be honest, I was expecting that to be absolutely brutal ala Lugar before.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 04:57 |
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I forgot that Jagen was so quick to show up. But now we have to head through Dark Castle and its many many mobs and boss refights before we get to our favorite little lady. I wonder how they'll change her up. As I recall she wasted a lot of time in vanilla with Energy Ball, I can see that being exploited in the future. It also makes me curious about the other unique bosses, but I won't force our friend here to play the game a third time. I might just have to do it on my own someday.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 05:00 |
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i'm honestly not sure how we would've been expected to handle that fight if not for TransShape.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 05:51 |
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I'm honestly surprised you never cast Speed Up, since that increases your evasion.
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 06:19 |
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Episode 61: We Get New Music!
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# ? Oct 4, 2017 21:16 |
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Episode 62: This is the Next Boss Fight
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 18:10 |
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I'm enjoying watching you guys figure out strategies for the bosses. I sent a link of your videos to my dad and he's enjoying them too. He also thinks that Praetarius seems to be kind of like Sheldon for Big Bang Theory or something like that; I forgot the exact word that was used.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 23:28 |
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Praetarius does have a point. The vanilla last dungeon had far, far, FAR less variety than what he stuck in here. So while there are Kaiser Mimics, there's also lots of other stuff. Kaiser Mimics may also be more threatening to different party compositions.
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 03:48 |
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Episode 63: I'm Going to Enjoy Eviscerating You!
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# ? Oct 10, 2017 20:58 |
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it's only in hindsight i realize exactly how terrifying half of my sentences must sound to normal people
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 00:11 |
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Didn't watch the last three, was good to see some good-old fashioned dungeoneering. I believe there are three old boss fights in each of the penultimate dungeons. Glad they're not too challenging, seems like.
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# ? Oct 11, 2017 00:34 |
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Episode 64: I thought it was Gorva
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 01:00 |
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No Gorva in this playthrough or your other playthrough, sir.
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 05:14 |
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That was a well timed Freya.
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# ? Oct 13, 2017 06:53 |
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Episode 65: Something Awful behind this door
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 15:20 |
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I remember Bigieu being mortally weak to water in the original release as well.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 15:55 |
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pahahahhaah the moment when Bigieu first hits us and we both freak out
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 17:57 |
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Coolguye posted:pahahahhaah the moment when Bigieu first hits us and we both freak out Admittedly I would also panic if a giant catlady crit me for over half my health.
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# ? Oct 14, 2017 19:13 |
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So, apparently unleashing the power of the Sword of Mana breaks the text box.
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# ? Oct 15, 2017 01:32 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 05:32 |
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"Biggy you" and "he turns into a cat" are objectively the two worst parts of this entire series. Shameful for a so-called hardtype LP.
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