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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Kim Jong-un is obese, in his mid-30s and has bad personal habits so he's really goons' natural leader if you think about it.

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Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



north korea is good






















no punchline

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


i run one of those fake shops in the DPRK, AMA

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



a new study bible! posted:

i run one of those fake shops in the DPRK, AMA
why do you hate our freedoms and amendment's

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

a new study bible! posted:

i run one of those fake shops in the DPRK, AMA
How much do you want for that big painting of Comrade Kim Jong-un riding a white horse as the sunbeams break over Mt. Paektu

No, not that one.

That one's too big

KomodoWagon
May 10, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Wikkheiser posted:

Kim Jong-un is obese, in his mid-30s and has bad personal habits so he's really goons' natural leader if you think about it.

I am actually Kim Jong-Un irl

Seriously though I wouldn't be even a little surprised if it turned out he has an account.

Les Os
Mar 29, 2010
kim jong, so what?

Secular Humanist
Mar 1, 2016

by Smythe

Lol, so gay

Gasbraai
Oct 25, 2010

Lictor my Dictor
There's thousands of middle-class white college students from well-off families that want to overthrow the government and install communism, goes to show OP, there's crazies everywhere. Oh but wait, this time, they totally promise to do communism right and that there wont be a genocide of wrong-thinkers because they can totally pull it off properly because they heard about Karl Marx and they wear a Che Guevara shirt.

Secular Humanist
Mar 1, 2016

by Smythe
Did you know that the number of people killed by communism in history is way over inflated? It's only like several million people, so, my point being, feel the bern.

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
lets trim our hair in accordance with the socialist lifestyle

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Let us English posted:

Your songbun is obviously hostile and you will be sent to a labor camp.

Also, shut the gently caress up about US healthcare and Montana. You know nothing about either and nobody cares.

Well you're the one who brought it up again, but I'm not sure it's a bold claim to say "Montana is big" and that things in this region are pretty spread out, although it's not as bad as Wyoming to my understanding. You still have more space than population, and as such you'd probably also have fairly high transportation costs.


Secular Humanist posted:

Did you know that the number of people killed by communism in history is way over inflated? It's only like several million people, so, my point being, feel the bern.

Capitalism doesn't kill you directly, it just lets you rent the abbatoir you'll rot in.

A post-currency world is the only answer.

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations
so whatever happened with his wife has she been seen in public lately

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Well you're the one who brought it up again, but I'm not sure it's a bold claim to say "Montana is big" and that things in this region are pretty spread out, although it's not as bad as Wyoming to my understanding. You still have more space than population, and as such you'd probably also have fairly high transportation
shut up about it you poor man's moridin

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Lunixnerd posted:

There's thousands of middle-class white college students from well-off families that want to overthrow the government and install communism, goes to show OP, there's crazies everywhere. Oh but wait, this time, they totally promise to do communism right and that there wont be a genocide of wrong-thinkers because they can totally pull it off properly because they heard about Karl Marx and they wear a Che Guevara shirt.
Marxism-Leninism is not a dogma, it is a guide to action and a creative theory. So, Marxism-Leninism can display its indestructible vitality only when it is applied creatively to suit the specific conditions of each country. The same applies to the experience of the fraternal parties. It will prove valuable to us only when we make a study of it, grasp its essence and properly apply it to our realities. Instead, if we just gulp it down and spoil our work, it will not only harm our work but also lead to discrediting the valuable experience of the fraternal parties.

-- Kim Il Sung

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Secular Humanist posted:

Did you know that the number of people killed by communism in history is way over inflated? It's only like several million people, so, my point being, feel the bern.
It may not be proper to say your Juche is lacking, but, in fact, it has not yet been firmly established.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Individual branches of a federalised system can still have autonomy in handling practise and dividing funds, as you'd know if you'd read about how socialised healthcare systems function in other countries. Generally local government and advisory bodies prioritise certain issues and move funding around to a significant degree. They don't have total autonomy, but a) I don't think that is a desirable goal given the politicisation of some necessary medical treatment, especially mental and women's health and b) they certainly have enough autonomy to decide, "oh, we need more gasoline for moving stuff around in our area".

It's a fatuous argument that belies a basic ignorance of how a robust socialised public resource works. Yes, there would be lots of paperwork involved, but that's not exactly an insurmountable problem, just hard work.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

anyway north korea is terrifying and i really enjoyed that barbeque video

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Android Blues posted:

Individual branches of a federalised system can still have autonomy in handling practise and dividing funds
They don't have total autonomy, but a) I don't think that is a desirable goal given the politicisation of some necessary medical treatment, especially mental and women's health and b) they certainly have enough autonomy to decide, "oh, we need more gasoline for moving stuff around in our area".

It's a fatuous argument that belies a basic ignorance of how a robust socialised public resource works. Yes, there would be lots of paperwork involved, but that's not exactly an insurmountable problem, just hard work.

You say that like the federal government isn't just as capable or willing to politicize medical treatment. You and Moridin both seem keen to handwave any potential problems as "it'd just take hard work" because I do not think laziness is the core root of problems in other socialized medicines.

Thing is, you gotta give people the choice. Trying to insist upon a health system to work for everybody is not really the American way, loathe as I am to use the phrase. Empowering agencies to build their own, sustainable and locally-focused program would result in better efficiency while attaining the exact same goal.

And if Texas starts making it lovely for women to get healthcare, and suddenly finds itself in a situation where more Texas women are moving to Utah to take advantage of their more comprehensive systems, then Texas has reason to keep updating their program.

See, when you start having the central authority dictating to everybody how to live and keeping them reliant on your teat for sustenance, you create the sort of unhealthy situation like what exists in North Korea.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

i actually want to have this discussion but it's mean to have it in the north korea thread

the story about dogs being raised like cattle and then skinned and slaughtered and the fur sent off to the government for soldiers to use in coats was wild. like, they have mandatory government dog farming and a dog fur industry. that is an amazing and terrifying fact

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010

Android Blues posted:

i actually want to have this discussion but it's mean to have it in the north korea thread

the story about dogs being raised like cattle and then skinned and slaughtered and the fur sent off to the government for soldiers to use in coats was wild. like, they have mandatory government dog farming and a dog fur industry. that is an amazing and terrifying fact

I wonder what kind of dogs they are.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

uber_stoat posted:

here's some North Koreans eating American BBQ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0TYCEXmi90

:patriot:

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Psycho Society posted:

I wonder what kind of dogs they are.

I was just thinking the same thing. it's gotta be something with a thick coat, right?

what really got me was that the government is expecting the dog fur and if you don't send it off, like if you don't regularly raise a dog to slaughter, you get In Trouble. it's literally like some kind of dog fur tithing system and that's insane

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless
The far sadder factoid I took from it is that the people of South Korea apparently stigmatize the people of the North.

Not the government or the ideology of the North, but the actual people themselves.

Comparatively speaking it's probably like paradise, but I guess even paradise has its vipers.

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
You'd think something like goats would be easier to raise, since dogs pretty much just eat human food scraps and those would be hard to give up when you're courting malnutrition already.

Secular Humanist
Mar 1, 2016

by Smythe
something about eating dogs specifically adds that extra touch of madness that makes north korea so special

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
there are breeds of dogs that are specifically bred to be good eatin'
I heard they're real dumb but taste great

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Pyongyang has a doggie section at their zoo :3:

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

HAT FETISH posted:

Pyongyang has a doggie section at their zoo :3:

And on their cafe menu

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Lunixnerd posted:

There's thousands of middle-class white college students from well-off families that want to overthrow the government and install communism, goes to show OP, there's crazies everywhere. Oh but wait, this time, they totally promise to do communism right and that there wont be a genocide of wrong-thinkers because they can totally pull it off properly because they heard about Karl Marx and they wear a Che Guevara shirt.

idk ive been talking to some of these people and theyre not quite against the forced labor camps

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

8-Bit Scholar posted:

The far sadder factoid I took from it is that the people of South Korea apparently stigmatize the people of the North.

Not the government or the ideology of the North, but the actual people themselves.

Comparatively speaking it's probably like paradise, but I guess even paradise has its vipers.

when you're close to it it's probably easier to be prejudiced, not that that excuses it. like to us the people of north korea are more abstract, but to south koreans they're the terrifying and disturbing tableaux of human suffering right next door. almost everywhere where you see a relatively well off class living adjacent to a staggeringly poor and destitute one has some social discrimination and discomfort with the members of the latter class

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

like if you place any given comfortable people next to any given unhappy and poverty stricken people, social prejudice always 100% of the time springs up, whether it's american anxiety about mexican immigrants or frothing hatred for the homeless or prejudice against travellers

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
like what on earth happened to this man's brain

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

it's crazy how some people can get basic left wing ideas like "socialised public services are good, unchecked capitalism is destructive, invading other countries is bad" and just polarise themselves to the insane degree that they think north korea is cool because it doesn't allow free trade

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

also lol if they think NK isn't a capitalist country, it's just a lovely tyrannical fiefdom type anarchocapitalism where all the money flows to 0.0001% instead of like 2% and dissenters are murdered by the people with the money

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010
Tankies are always trash

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Psycho Society
Oct 21, 2010

*Hears about a government that will execute 4 generations of the family of someone trying to escape the country*

oh hell yeah. nice. like and subscribe

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Psycho Society posted:

*Hears about a government that will execute 4 generations of the family of someone trying to escape the country*

thats US propaganda comrade

Ein cooler Typ
Nov 26, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
maybe millennials wouldn't be so lazy if we had forced labor camps here

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Repo Man
Nov 19, 2005




A seventeen year old who thinks he knows the answer to the world's problems.

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