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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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i am glad these people exist, their continued efforts ensure marxism never gains traction in mainstream western politics

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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8-Bit Scholar posted:

Though it does leave one with the unpleasant present reality that capitalism has failed.

works for me and most people i know :shrug:

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Psycho Society posted:

lol yeah unless you are too poor to afford an education or medical expenses without crippling debt. Or if you live in literally any country that isn't built on the exploitation of millions of foreign workers

maybe you should come up with a solution then that doesn't involve autistically waving red flags around and then accidentally starving millions hth

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Psycho Society posted:

Democratic socialism. That's a much less acceptable solution for the US elite who've grown fat and greedy on parasitic institutions like the insurance business or the prison system though

alright now we just have to go and wrestle control of the socialist brand from unironic stalinists and also make it explicitly clear it doesn't have anything to do with communism and there's actually a shot at getting elected

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Cubone posted:

what did you hope was helpful about that?

turn on your monitor

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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could somebody post some north korean tankie tears instead of this gay us healthcare bullshit all over again tia

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Moridin920 posted:

And from a brutally heartless "I don't care about other people" economic point of view: our healthcare system is extremely detrimental to our economy and competitive edge versus other modern countries and their workforces simply because the amount of preventable injury/disease/etc that exists here is a huge drag on worker productivity. Which also then negatively affects aggregate demand which is bad as well.

It's bad for jobs and bad for economic growth on top of the fact that we have millions of people who need help and aren't getting it.

The little cherry on top is that it continues to make us look like a laughingstock to the rest of the modern world which figured this poo poo out ages ago.

e: wait this is the NK thread lol what

you better have a lot of tankie tweets saved up to post itt after this derail my good man

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Psycho Society posted:

I love how that conservative americans, when faced by the overwhelming evidence that universal healthcare and smarter regulations on drug companies would not only help a vast amount of people but be more affordable, they still come up with an endless diarrhea stream of talking points to try to draw attention away from their indefensible ideas.

it is however a fact that the USA is the absolute leader in pharmaceuticals globally and personalised medicine to such an extent that many NHS patients (which is an amazing system) choose to go to the states for cancer treatment

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Moridin920 posted:

don't worry i got u



a putin, a jong and a trump walk into a bar

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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lmao

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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Kim J is real, and strong and he's my friend

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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is that a real occupy democrats banner or a spoof i can't tell anymore lmao

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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8-Bit Scholar posted:

Again, I don't think it's prudent to entrust that single risk pool to safeguard everyone's medical care. It sounds like putting all of your eggs in one basket. If anything, that sort of fund would be better used to serve as a safety net in case any of the state-run plans fucks up super bad and needs emergency money, which would also help serve as a means of providing emergency reform to a poorly designed system. I especially do not have enough faith in the federal government as it is run now, by whom it is run now, to safeguard these monies responsibly. Until such a time as the power structure of the Washington elite has shifted, I'm not particularly willing to trust their intentions. My local legislators are much more accessible; I can call up my local senator and talk to him directly. What happens to his community affects him far more directly than it does his federal counterpart.

It is in this way you may also create a system better than any currently existing, because you'd have an opening for experimentation. Not every system would be equal, but every system would be far more democratically designed, which seems like the most appropriate way to do it.

the US state apparatus is the basket everybody puts their eggs into worldwide courtesy of the US dollar being the global reserve currency anyway

like if there is any argument to make against federal mandated healthcare in the US it's deffo not "the sovereign backing this system might go bad" lol

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

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spit on my clit posted:

man you should have seen twitter when castro died

wherein we found out trudeau is a tankie

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