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Legalize marijuana growing naturally out of the ground before robots imo
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a misanthrope posted:speaking of slaves, it's funny to me how the wealthy are still doing everything they can to get free labor -- even if it fucks over everyone. they used to rely on slaves and now it's robots Robots aren't labor, they're capital equipment.
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Mar 26, 2017 05:57
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The Management posted:Robots aren't labor, they're capital equipment. whatever you want to call it -- they replace labor
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Mar 26, 2017 06:05
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Hopefully portable emps become a thing before drones steal all of the jobs
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Mar 26, 2017 06:08
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guns for tits posted:Hopefully portable emps become a thing before drones steal all of the jobs i legit hope hackers break the gently caress out of them but they wont because hackers are goony nerds who think poo poo like self-driving cars are neat and don't care if 3 million truckers lose their jobs
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Mar 26, 2017 06:11
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Everybody should see Eat the Rich, it's more relevant today than ever. They should have it on Netflix and it should be making the rounds on cable.   Nosher = Trump Comic Strip Presents!
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Mar 26, 2017 06:12
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a misanthrope posted:i legit hope hackers break the gently caress out of them I don't trust those things. They seem like they may glitch out one day and run the gently caress over everything.
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Mar 26, 2017 06:42
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a misanthrope posted:whatever you want to call it -- they replace labor Computers replace labor. Washing machines replace labor. Tractors replace labor. Looms replace labor. Printing presses replace labor. You've cracked the code, technology replaces labor.
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Mar 26, 2017 06:47
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The Management posted:Computers replace labor. Washing machines replace labor. Tractors replace labor. Looms replace labor. Printing presses replace labor. You've cracked the code, technology replaces labor. yeah i dont understamd why we are arguing
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Mar 26, 2017 07:11
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The Management posted:Robots aren't labor, they're capital equipment. They're capital equipment and labor but that's not material. What's material is that ownership of capital is not allocated appropriately due to a legal system that values contracts over material contributions because that's legislatively convenient (rather than because it is fair as it is obviously not fair) along with secondary issues of an apparatus in place to enforce this unfair legal system.
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Mar 26, 2017 07:18
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has anyone mentioned aerosmith yet
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Mar 26, 2017 08:18
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Globalism has us fast on the way to capitalism expanding its fringe sector into its home states, at some point soon the exploited class will expand to a size where it has to start doing something. Ideally that something will be redistributing the wealth, but it's looking just as likely that it'll end up cannibalizing itself to keep going
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Mar 26, 2017 09:43
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OK, I'm rich and accept my fate. Where do I report to?
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Mar 26, 2017 10:06
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My kokoro wish is that when capitalism implodes, our robots kill the people who programmed them first
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Mar 26, 2017 10:11
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You wouldn't believe how many dumb posts I wrote about the industrial age collapsing into the information age and edited down to come up with that
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Mar 26, 2017 10:14
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As long as we have a militarized police force it will be impossible. The tech gap makes it inconceivable that the command man can push against the the wealthy without the consent of either the military or law enforcement.
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Mar 26, 2017 14:01
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When we eat the rich and become them, where do I report so the Mexicans can make me into a taco?
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Mar 26, 2017 14:08
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a misanthrope posted:yeah Cause one of you thinks that is good and the other bad. Hint: You're wrong.
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Mar 26, 2017 14:18
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Seems like some people itt need to watch "The Twilight Zone" The Brain Center at Whipple's
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Mar 26, 2017 14:33
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Oscar Wild posted:As long as we have a militarized police force it will be impossible. The tech gap makes it inconceivable that the command man can push against the the wealthy without the consent of either the military or law enforcement. which will be made a million times worse when police and military are replaced by robots
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Mar 26, 2017 16:28
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Huskalator posted:Cause one of you thinks that is good and the other bad. i'm wrong to think automation will lead to a job apocalypse? ok buddy because all indicators point to me being right
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Mar 26, 2017 16:29
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There used to be a person who delivers ice to your house to put in your ice box. I say smash your refrigerator and we could get those jobs back.
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Mar 26, 2017 16:42
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The Management posted:There used to be a person who delivers ice to your house to put in your ice box. I say smash your refrigerator and we could get those jobs back. this coming round of automation is different than the industrial revolution. it will take jobs at a much higher rate than new ones are created, and those few newly created jobs will favor those who can get the appropriate education. the poor and anyone who has just a high school degree will be left in the dust, for good. min. wage jobs will not be a thing anymore
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Mar 26, 2017 16:51
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wait a sec - who's this 'rich' guy we're taking about? Doesn't he get a say in this??
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Mar 26, 2017 16:52
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if you can argue "a lot less jobs with a lot higher entry barrier" is good for the economy, i'd love to see you try
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Mar 26, 2017 16:53
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Bill Gates suggested taxing companies that use robots and that sounds cool. A 3 way fight to the death with non western workers vs western workers vs robots to see who's best to enslave.
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Mar 26, 2017 16:54
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guns for tits posted:I don't trust those things. They seem like they may glitch out one day and run the gently caress over everything. good, im glad for it, death to all 2020
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Mar 26, 2017 16:55
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I will be attending Burning Man this year. Why? To murder gutless, yuppie ball-handlers
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Mar 26, 2017 17:06
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Psycho Society posted:wait a sec - who's this 'rich' guy we're taking about? Doesn't he get a say in this?? Lmao try to keep up We've already dehumanize him so he doesn't matter Kinda like everyone's dreams of murdering the fictional monopoly man while yelling No YOU'RE fired!
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Mar 26, 2017 17:12
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The Management posted:There used to be a person who delivers ice to your house to put in your ice box. I say smash your refrigerator and we could get those jobs back. The last round of automation/outsourcing was justified by claims that the service and retail sectors could absorb the displaced manufacturing workers. Turns out trading your full time well paid manufacturing job for part time poo poo retail work isn't so great. Even if things eventually balance out, I bet they won't, we've already thrown entire communities and several generations under the bus. skeletonotherkin fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 17:31
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Oscar Wild posted:As long as we have a militarized police force it will be impossible. The tech gap makes it inconceivable that the command man can push against the the wealthy without the consent of either the military or law enforcement. pfff a bunch of starving rice eating farmers with decades old rifles pushed the US Army's poo poo in not too long ago "but drones!" whatever man tell it to the IRA snipers bunch a defeatists itt
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Mar 26, 2017 17:34
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a misanthrope posted:which will be made a million times worse when police and military are replaced by robots boston dynamics? more like boston DIEnamics amirite
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Mar 26, 2017 17:37
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we should unironically drop a hellfire missile on that irish politican that used to work for the IRA. That fucker probably bombed some kids.
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Mar 26, 2017 17:37
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The Management posted:There used to be a person who delivers ice to your house to put in your ice box. I say smash your refrigerator and we could get those jobs back. This kind of "lol just learn Econ 101!" argument falls flat when the results of the last 20 years have been what they are. there's no guarantee that the new jobs will be as good as the old ones. there's no guarantee that all lost jobs will be replaced by the new whatsoever either, that's just historically what has happened but that doesn't make it scientific fact and any real economist wouldn't be so quick to make any guarantees like that about anything. thinking this form of capitalism is the end all be all answer to everything and it just requires some tweaks here and there sometimes to keep it going is ideology
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Mar 26, 2017 17:39
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Moridin920 posted:This kind of "lol just learn Econ 101!" argument falls flat when the results of the last 20 years have been what they are. there's no guarantee that the new jobs will be as good as the old ones. I love how neo liberals destroyed organized labor, American and British manufacturing, and then profited off of sweat shop labor in the third world, and all the while claim to be the greatest philanthropists man kind has ever known.
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Mar 26, 2017 17:41
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skeletonotherkin posted:I love how neo liberals destroyed organized labor, American and British manufacturing, and then profited off of sweat shop labor in the third world, and all the while claim to be the greatest philanthropists man kind has ever known. Philanthropy applied towards shareholders
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Mar 26, 2017 17:49
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skeletonotherkin posted:The last round of automation/outsourcing was justified by claims that the service and retail sectors could absorb the displaced manufacturing workers. Turns out trading your full time well paid manufacturing job for part time poo poo retail work isn't so great. Even if things eventually balance out, I bet they won't, we've already thrown entire communities and several generations under the bus.
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Mar 26, 2017 17:53
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The amount of math you have to take to get an econ degree is hilariously small, especially given how complex many of the problems involving money are compared to items in the physical world that engineers or physicists deal with. Taking something an economist says about the economy to heart is usually like putting stock in your tarot reading aunt's opinions on nutrition. Economics is an arena for soft brained people to sit in hoping some salesman active in the economy comes by and picks them to be their fall guy or jester while they go about robbing people using some variation on the rounding off scheme from Superman 3.
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Mar 26, 2017 17:53
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gently caress reganomics forever
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a misanthrope posted:i legit hope hackers break the gently caress out of them Don't worry, asymmetric warfare abroad has illustrated that there is always a low tech wrench to throw in the complex machine. An example at home: everybody having a cheap camera phone has been a tremendous boon to highlighting police abusing their authority. For all their resources and tactical gear they still have to contend with video records and instant Facebook streaming shining a light on their poo poo. Things can and will continue to deteriorate but we're a fightin species that works well in groups, this tenacity will always benefit the oppressed class
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