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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-03-23/inside-alabama-s-auto-jobs-boom-cheap-wages-little-training-crushed-limbsquote:The pressure inside parts plants is wreaking a different American carnage than the one Trump conjured up at his inauguration. OSHA records obtained by Bloomberg document burning flesh, crushed limbs, dismembered body parts, and a flailing fall into a vat of acid. The files read like Upton Sinclair, or even Dickens.  no war but class war  seize the means of production
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Captain Yossarian posted:I'm gay FALGSC
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quote:When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist.  a misanthrope posted:this thread is actually useless because nothing will ever change or get better, it will just get worse until automation takes everyone's job and capitalism breaks and 99% of the earth's populations starves while 1% relaxes in luxury on private islands guarded by drone armies til shade is gone til water is gone, into the shadow with teeth bared screaming defiance with the last breath to spit in the bourgie's eye on the last day
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Streak posted:Its so hosed that when you talk about killing the rich people look at you like you're crazy or some poo poo I know right like they are killing us on the daily lol quote:BUFFETT: Actually, there’s been class warfare going on for the last 20 years, and my class has won.
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The Management posted:Hi, I'm the rich. 
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Mar 26, 2017 05:06
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Oscar Wild posted:As long as we have a militarized police force it will be impossible. The tech gap makes it inconceivable that the command man can push against the the wealthy without the consent of either the military or law enforcement. pfff a bunch of starving rice eating farmers with decades old rifles pushed the US Army's poo poo in not too long ago "but drones!" whatever man tell it to the IRA snipers bunch a defeatists itt
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The Management posted:There used to be a person who delivers ice to your house to put in your ice box. I say smash your refrigerator and we could get those jobs back. This kind of "lol just learn Econ 101!" argument falls flat when the results of the last 20 years have been what they are. there's no guarantee that the new jobs will be as good as the old ones. there's no guarantee that all lost jobs will be replaced by the new whatsoever either, that's just historically what has happened but that doesn't make it scientific fact and any real economist wouldn't be so quick to make any guarantees like that about anything. thinking this form of capitalism is the end all be all answer to everything and it just requires some tweaks here and there sometimes to keep it going is ideology
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Mar 26, 2017 17:39
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Sheep-Goats posted:The amount of math you have to take to get an econ degree is hilariously small, especially given how complex many of the problems involving money are compared to items in the physical world that engineers or physicists deal with. Taking something an economist says about the economy to heart is usually like putting stock in your tarot reading aunt's opinions on nutrition. Economics is an arena for soft brained people to sit in hoping some salesman active in the economy comes by and picks them to be their fall guy or jester while they go about robbing people using some variation on the rounding off scheme from Superman 3. I mean I wouldn't necessarily go that far but this is closer to the truth than most people realize and tbh the amount of math that is in economics that is just equations straight lifted from hard sciences because "well if it works there it must work the same here" is hysterical really. Econ is a new as gently caress field of study relative to many others and there's a whole lot we don't know. Hell until relatively recently economists figured humans were more or less rational actors which is ofc totally wrong.
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Econ requires a lot of math don't get me wrong and it's deffo hard depending on what you're talking about - but a lot of the stuff that we've taken as a given is turning out to be false and based on entirely shakey premises that were assumed and never rigorously examined. For example there's an equation wrt quantity theory of money where 'MV = PT' Then Freidman picked that up and went "AHA" nm that it was an extreme simplification of something pretty drat complex and then came up with MV=PQ but uh that first dude just based it on the physics gas equation PV = RT. There were no long years of experimentation and poring over data sheets to come up with MV=PT A looot of the economists back like in 1700/1800 thought they could improve their discipline by replacing crude approximations and hypothesis with equations just straight taken from hard sciences. That doesn't mean that everything is bunk at all, it just means economics is a relatively new field and we're discovering that some things we took for a given are just not so. Again for example the idea of people as rational actors was popular even up until just a couple decades ago. Still is today really among some circles. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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VendaGoat posted:Just wondering, what does this site consider "rich"? in the context of eating, .1% imo
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a misanthrope posted:i will say there are more goons itt who want to eat the rich than goons who dont (you never know with these gbs weirdos). i'm wondering how much of the population as a whole is having thoughts and conversations similar to the one here class consciousness is rising this is meant to be some conservative "LOOK HOW STUPID THEY ARE" but lmao quote:The survey, conducted by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation (VOC), which partnered with YouGov, found that 45 percent of the youth said they would vote for a socialist and 21 percent said they would vote for a communist. Additionally, 53 percent of millennials said that America's capitalist system "works against me." quote:The survey disturbingly reveals a lack of understanding of the evil of communism among millennials. lmao sp00ky scARy socialists get hosed boomers
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I mean that argument would have some more merit if the capitalist imperialists didn't instigate coups in almost every single instance of a Socialist being Democratically elected.
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rofl what motherfucker don't act like Operation Condor was just a tea party they had together one day
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quote:Operation Condor (Spanish: Operación Cóndor, also known as Plan Cóndor, Portuguese: Operação Condor) was a campaign of political repression and state terror involving intelligence operations and assassination of opponents, which started in 1968 and was officially implemented in 1975 by the right-wing dictatorships of the Southern Cone of South America. The program was nominally intended to eradicate communist or Soviet influence and ideas, and to suppress active or potential opposition movements against the participating governments' neoliberal economic policies, which sought to reverse the economic reforms of the previous era.[5] and this is just the de-classified poo poo they are proud of lmao literal right wing death squads
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then idiots wonder why people want to escape the hell holes we created in pursuit of stamping out worker's rights to maintain cheap labor for our multinational corporations
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Mar 26, 2017 23:20
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Space Crabs posted:"Maybe the problem is the trillions of dollars people won't even need yet they treat like a high score in a video game and have indoctrinated the dumbest portions of our culture to violently defend the right to take as much as you possibly can by telling the dumbest they too will be able to take unimaginable amounts of wealth from other people.
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so you see poor people
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General Dog posted:I think most people with over $100 million have it in like businesses and stocks and stuff like that that would be pretty hard for the govt. to just appropriate, it's not a bunch of gold coins in a vault Scrooge McDuck style. What are... capital gains taxes, Alex?
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Mar 27, 2017 19:39
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chumbler posted:The only class war that will ever actually happen will be the middle class vs the poor. quote:BUFFETT: Actually, there’s been class warfare going on for the last 20 years, and my class has won.
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Mar 27, 2017 20:30
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Pitdragon posted:see its okay when the rich systematically exploit people because when they do it, they do it with the approval of other rich people, and oftentimes they follow the arbitrary rules that they have created for society while doing so! good post right here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTafZRecy2k quote:We're the first ones to starve, we're the first ones to die
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honestly i think you could trick a bunch of them there by trying to make it all tongue in cheek and ironic but when they get there it's really not ironic but it's too late then
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im still mad about occupy wall street honestly what a loving poo poo show
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